Is There a God?

[Ende]

No, but equating it to smoking which damages other people through second hand smoke and alcohol which God knows will end up doing something to my liver down the line when it's a personal faith I don't impress on other people is.

Of course, having two pints a day is good for your heart.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter if you impress your faith on other people or not. It can affect the world. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the argument "Billions believe, it must be true!"

But he's not making that argument.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

No, but equating it to smoking which damages other people through second hand smoke and alcohol which God knows will end up doing something to my liver down the line when it's a personal faith I don't impress on other people is.

Of course, having two pints a day is good for your heart.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter if you impress your faith on other people or not. It can affect the world. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the argument "Billions believe, it must be true!"

The thing is though, with that argument, you can punch them in the mouth for that. Because "everybody is doing it" is Peer Pressure. And Peer Pressure is evil, so the government paid-for ads told me.

My own faith has helped me get over anger and stress issues, so it's been good for me. I mean, I have a sister who is an Atheist and we get along fine despite our difference in beliefs.

But he's not making that argument.

He's saying that because I believe, I am one of those billions those people cite.

[Mavorpen]

Unfortunately it doesn't matter if you impress your faith on other people or not. It can affect the world. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the argument "Billions believe, it must be true!"

But he's not making that argument.

I didn't say he did, but that's nice.

[United Republic of Lucas]

Yep. Even scientists have found some truth from the bible that proved the universe was NOT billions of years old, but thousands.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

Yep. Even scientists have found some truth from the bible that proved the universe was NOT billions of years old, but thousands.

No they have not and this will end poorly.

[The Cummunist State]

Yep. Even scientists have found some truth from the bible that proved the universe was NOT billions of years old, but thousands.

And what is that?

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

Yep. Even scientists have found some truth from the bible that proved the universe was NOT billions of years old, but thousands.

And what is that?

The part that says

"Wise guys who ask questions end up face down in an alley."

Song of Solomon.

[Mavorpen]

Unfortunately it doesn't matter if you impress your faith on other people or not. It can affect the world. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the argument "Billions believe, it must be true!"

The thing is though, with that argument, you can punch them in the mouth for that. Because "everybody is doing it" is Peer Pressure. And Peer Pressure is evil, so the government paid-for ads told me.

My own faith has helped me get over anger and stress issues, so it's been good for me. I mean, I have a sister who is an Atheist and we get along fine despite our difference in beliefs.

What does your sister have to do with this? The thing is, I wouldn't worry if your faith was reasonable (which an oxymoron). I know more atheists who are happy than religious people. You can survive and thrive without your faith.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

The thing is though, with that argument, you can punch them in the mouth for that. Because "everybody is doing it" is Peer Pressure. And Peer Pressure is evil, so the government paid-for ads told me.

My own faith has helped me get over anger and stress issues, so it's been good for me. I mean, I have a sister who is an Atheist and we get along fine despite our difference in beliefs.

What does your sister have to do with this? The thing is, I wouldn't worry if your faith was reasonable (which an oxymoron). I know more atheists who are happy than religious people. You can survive and thrive without your faith.

I am just saying that us Theists and you Atheists don't have to be enemies.

And I've been an Atheist. It was generally an unpleasant time and I have no interest in revisiting it. I am surviving well enough with my faith and it seems to help, so c'est la vie.

[Hallistar]

Yep. Even scientists have found some truth from the bible that proved the universe was NOT billions of years old, but thousands.

Source?

*Note that telling us that its obvious and that you don't need to justify it because its somehow already true because it feels right and that we're all going to hell doesn't count.

[Tlaceceyaya]

What does your sister have to do with this? The thing is, I wouldn't worry if your faith was reasonable (which an oxymoron). I know more atheists who are happy than religious people. You can survive and thrive without your faith.

I am just saying that us Theists and you Atheists don't have to be enemies.

And I've been an Atheist. It was generally an unpleasant time and I have no interest in revisiting it. I am surviving well enough with my faith and it seems to help, so c'est la vie.

Why was it unpleasant? Did you think that because there was not some being with intentions for all of us to either go to paradise if we follow the rules or be punished for all eternity, that life had no meaning?

edit: Also, most atheists come to their conclusion because of a lack of evidence... what happened to change that?

[Seperates]

What does your sister have to do with this? The thing is, I wouldn't worry if your faith was reasonable (which an oxymoron). I know more atheists who are happy than religious people. You can survive and thrive without your faith.

I am just saying that us Theists and you Atheists don't have to be enemies.

And I've been an Atheist. It was generally an unpleasant time and I have no interest in revisiting it. I am surviving well enough with my faith and it seems to help, so c'est la vie.

So long as one edits their views when facts contradict assumptions, that is true.

[Mavorpen]

What does your sister have to do with this? The thing is, I wouldn't worry if your faith was reasonable (which an oxymoron). I know more atheists who are happy than religious people. You can survive and thrive without your faith.

I am just saying that us Theists and you Atheists don't have to be enemies.

And I've been an Atheist. It was generally an unpleasant time and I have no interest in revisiting it. I am surviving well enough with my faith and it seems to help, so c'est la vie.

We aren't enemies...

I doubt that.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

I am just saying that us Theists and you Atheists don't have to be enemies.

And I've been an Atheist. It was generally an unpleasant time and I have no interest in revisiting it. I am surviving well enough with my faith and it seems to help, so c'est la vie.

Why was it unpleasant? Did you think that because there was not some being with intentions for all of us to either go to paradise if we follow the rules or be punished for all eternity, that life had no meaning?

Eh, kind of. Trying to explain it all is like trying to explain a dream -- I'm bound to lose your comprehension somewhere and your interest long before that.

[The Cummunist State]

What does your sister have to do with this? The thing is, I wouldn't worry if your faith was reasonable (which an oxymoron). I know more atheists who are happy than religious people. You can survive and thrive without your faith.

I am just saying that us Theists and you Atheists don't have to be enemies.

And I've been an Atheist. It was generally an unpleasant time and I have no interest in revisiting it. I am surviving well enough with my faith and it seems to help, so c'est la vie.

Was it really unpleasant because you were a Atheist? Or was it just the time? I doubt being a Atheist makes you depressed.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

I am just saying that us Theists and you Atheists don't have to be enemies.

And I've been an Atheist. It was generally an unpleasant time and I have no interest in revisiting it. I am surviving well enough with my faith and it seems to help, so c'est la vie.

Was it really unpleasant because you were a Atheist? Or was it just the time? I doubt being a Atheist makes you depressed.

I was one of those Nihilist Atheists who wax-poetic'd about how my life sucked and there was no meaning and couldn't sleep at night because "holy shit what if I didn't wake up tomorrow I am only a teenager".

I suppose it had a lot to do with the situation of the time, but hey.

EDIT: Also, to Tlaceceyaya -- I was not an Atheist for that reason. I was an Atheist because the Theists around me were jerks.

EDIT TWO: Also that "what if I don't wake up tomorrow" thing still sort of bugs me, but much less now, for reasons independent of Theism.

[Mavorpen]

Was it really unpleasant because you were a Atheist? Or was it just the time? I doubt being a Atheist makes you depressed.

I was one of those Nihilist Atheists who wax-poetic'd about how my life sucked and there was no meaning and couldn't sleep at night because "holy shit what if I didn't wake up tomorrow I am only a teenager".

I suppose it had a lot to do with the situation of the time, but hey.

EDIT: Also, to Tlaceceyaya -- I was not an Atheist for that reason. I was an Atheist because the Theists around me were jerks.

So it was nihilism that made you depressed. Not understanding why this would make being an atheist a horrible experience.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

I was one of those Nihilist Atheists who wax-poetic'd about how my life sucked and there was no meaning and couldn't sleep at night because "holy shit what if I didn't wake up tomorrow I am only a teenager".

I suppose it had a lot to do with the situation of the time, but hey.

EDIT: Also, to Tlaceceyaya -- I was not an Atheist for that reason. I was an Atheist because the Theists around me were jerks.

So it was nihilism that made you depressed. Not understanding why this would make being an atheist a horrible experience.

I have a feeling, for me and only me personally, that the two seem to go hand in hand. Maybe one day it'll change and I'll be Atheist again, but at the moment I am good with my Theism.

[Seperates]

Why was it unpleasant? Did you think that because there was not some being with intentions for all of us to either go to paradise if we follow the rules or be punished for all eternity, that life had no meaning?

Eh, kind of. Trying to explain it all is like trying to explain a dream -- I'm bound to lose your comprehension somewhere and your interest long before that.

It can be stressful realizing that life has no set purposea and that existence is meaningless. However, it's fairly easy to overcome that boundary. I really became an atheist when I realized one simple thing... Things do have meaning. But only when you've given it to them. So I decided to give my life some vague meaning, and boom, problem solved.

[Mavorpen]

So it was nihilism that made you depressed. Not understanding why this would make being an atheist a horrible experience.

I have a feeling, for me, that the two seem to go hand in hand. Maybe one day it'll change and I'll be Atheist again, but at the moment I am good with my Theism.

Your feeling is wrong. It's just annoying that someone becomes a theist for reasons that has nothing to do with atheism and saying it makes them feel good. The thing is, if you BELIEVE that your faith will make you happy, you will be happy. Faith doesn't make you less angry, you do.

[The Cummunist State]

So it was nihilism that made you depressed. Not understanding why this would make being an atheist a horrible experience.

I have a feeling, for me and only me personally, that the two seem to go hand in hand. Maybe one day it'll change and I'll be Atheist again, but at the moment I am good with my Theism.

I am not a follower of nihilism, thank you. But yeah, I guess if you need a god, go for it

[Mavorpen]

Eh, kind of. Trying to explain it all is like trying to explain a dream -- I'm bound to lose your comprehension somewhere and your interest long before that.

It can be stressful realizing that life has no set purposea and that existence is meaningless. However, it's fairly easy to overcome that boundary. I really became an atheist when I realized one simple thing... Things do have meaning. But only when you've given it to them. So I decided to give my life some vague meaning, and boom, problem solved.

In simpler terms: existentialism.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

I have a feeling, for me, that the two seem to go hand in hand. Maybe one day it'll change and I'll be Atheist again, but at the moment I am good with my Theism.

Your feeling is wrong. It's just annoying that someone becomes a theist for reasons that has nothing to do with atheism and saying it makes them feel good. The thing is, if you BELIEVE that your faith will make you happy, you will be happy. Faith doesn't make you less angry, you do.

Point noted.

[Kalaspia-Shimarata]

I belive in God

Note: Please do not argue with each other, we are all entitled to believe in what we want to believe in

And what if we happen to have the exact same belife as someone else therefore don't want to type it up again when it is already typed and since it is someone else's work, we have to quote them otherwise there would be copyright issues if we copy paste? And yes, it does happen, VERY OFTEN

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

I have a feeling, for me and only me personally, that the two seem to go hand in hand. Maybe one day it'll change and I'll be Atheist again, but at the moment I am good with my Theism.

I am not a follower of nihilism, thank you. But yeah, I guess if you need a god, go for it

Which is why I said for me and only me personally, mate. I know for certain it's not true for the majority of Atheists.