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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:22 pm

Greater Phenia wrote:
Tairoth wrote:if you believe in god your an idiot and i laught at you :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


If I believe in god my what and you what?

"To laught" is an obsolete word meaning, "To say something out of line and get reported for it."
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Postby Tairoth » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:22 pm

Greater Phenia wrote:
Tairoth wrote:if you believe in god your an idiot and i laught at you :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


If I believe in god my what and you what?

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

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Postby Of The Honoured Guards » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:30 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Greater Phenia wrote:
If I believe in god my what and you what?

"To laught" is an obsolete word meaning, "To say something out of line and get reported for it."

sorry good sir :bow:

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:43 pm

Tairoth wrote:if you believe in god your an idiot and i laught at you :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

*** Warned for flamebaiting and trolling. *** Didn't you already lose a nation or two for that very thing?

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Postby The De Danann Nation » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:53 pm

Tairoth wrote:if you believe in god your an idiot and i laught at you :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


Laugh all you want,I'm pretty sure people will just think you're a hypocrite.
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Postby Zottistan » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:37 pm

Tairoth wrote:if you believe in god your an idiot and i laught at you :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

1) Capital letter at the start of a sentence.
2) "You're".
3) "I" always takes a capital letter.
4) What the fuck is "laught"? Is it dirty? Can you teach me how to do it?
5) Full stop at the end of a sentence.
6) Six smileys does not make your argument any more convincing.
So, the religious are idiots, are they?
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:42 pm

Zottistan wrote:
Tairoth wrote:if you believe in god your an idiot and i laught at you :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

1) Capital letter at the start of a sentence.
2) "You're".
3) "I" always takes a capital letter.
4) What the fuck is "laught"? Is it dirty? Can you teach me how to do it?
5) Full stop at the end of a sentence.
6) Six smileys does not make your argument any more convincing.
So, the religious are idiots, are they?

I'm pretty sure answering someone just warned for trolling and flamebaiting in the same coin is not a good idea. And I don't know if English is his first language. Still, one does wonder, where does the breakdown of command of the language come from in these discussions? It always seems as if the most conservative believers affect the poorest English.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:04 pm

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Postby Raumarike (Ancient) » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:06 pm

Norse Pantheon.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:12 pm

Raumarike wrote:Norse Pantheon.

Where? :eek: Hey, don't do that. Scared the living lutefisk out of me.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:13 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Raumarike wrote:Norse Pantheon.

Where? :eek: Hey, don't do that. Scared the living lutefisk out of me.

Cheers!

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:14 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Where? :eek: Hey, don't do that. Scared the living lutefisk out of me.

Cheers!

Those guys were the best to drink with ever.

Well, yeah, they were, but Goddess! those mead hangovers are the worst.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:17 pm

Raumarike wrote:Norse Pantheon.


For Russ! FOR THE WOLFTIME!

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:18 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Raumarike wrote:Norse Pantheon.


For Russ! FOR THE WOLFTIME!

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:lol:
What if he has to go to the bathroom?
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Postby Galloism » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:18 pm

Farnhamia wrote:What if he has to go to the bathroom?

It's just like scuba diving.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:21 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:What if he has to go to the bathroom?

It's just like scuba diving.

Or like Alan Shepard's Friendship 7 flight ... "Do it in the suit."

But you know his mother is going, "Sure, as soon as I get you into that snowsuit you have to go to the bathroom!"
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:23 pm

Farnhamia wrote: :lol:
What if he has to go to the bathroom?


Knowing this guy? You wouldn't like the answer.

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Postby Cill Airne » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:13 am

In the Qur'an, God challenges those who do not believe in him saying, "were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? Or did they create the Heavens and the Earth? Nay, they have no firm belief." (Qur'an 52:35-36) And this is where God makes it clear. For everything that begins to exist something has to cause it to exist, and so can something come into existence from nothing? So something cannot be its own cause, if it does not even exist to cause itself. Now, modern science states the universe began to exist, and that means something caused the universe to come into existence. The universe would, therefore, have a cause that is both outside and separate from it that would need to have existed before the universe came into being. But that leads to the question: Who caused the cause? And I believe the entire universe is a series of cause-and-effects. Which means something caused something, that in turn caused something, that in turn caused something. But eventually something had to have started the first "cause" but there must be a first uncaused first cause. For an analogy, I would use a series of dominos. If we look at the last domino, and trace it back to the first we see that something would have had to have cause the first to fall, that "got the ball rolling." The same applies to the universe, and this cause would have to be eternal, because if it had a beginning it would need a cause. And that would have a cause, and that would have a cause, and that would have a cause! And it is logically not possible to have a never ending series of events, and so logic would state that there is a single necessarily eternality that is the uncaused first cause of the entire physical and temporal universe. And it would be this first cause that we call God.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:53 am

Cill Airne wrote:In the Qur'an, God challenges those who do not believe in him saying, "were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? Or did they create the Heavens and the Earth? Nay, they have no firm belief." (Qur'an 52:35-36) And this is where God makes it clear. For everything that begins to exist something has to cause it to exist, and so can something come into existence from nothing? So something cannot be its own cause, if it does not even exist to cause itself. Now, modern science states the universe began to exist, and that means something caused the universe to come into existence. The universe would, therefore, have a cause that is both outside and separate from it that would need to have existed before the universe came into being. But that leads to the question: Who caused the cause? And I believe the entire universe is a series of cause-and-effects. Which means something caused something, that in turn caused something, that in turn caused something. But eventually something had to have started the first "cause" but there must be a first uncaused first cause. For an analogy, I would use a series of dominos. If we look at the last domino, and trace it back to the first we see that something would have had to have cause the first to fall, that "got the ball rolling." The same applies to the universe, and this cause would have to be eternal, because if it had a beginning it would need a cause. And that would have a cause, and that would have a cause, and that would have a cause! And it is logically not possible to have a never ending series of events, and so logic would state that there is a single necessarily eternality that is the uncaused first cause of the entire physical and temporal universe. And it would be this first cause that we call God.

I spotted the circular argument early in.
>Everything has a beginning because god said so.
>Therefore, god.

If you can prove the first part and redefine god to mean the creation of the universe, then you're right. But then that's not god anymore.
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Postby Cill Airne » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:39 am

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:In the Qur'an, God challenges those who do not believe in him saying, "were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? Or did they create the Heavens and the Earth? Nay, they have no firm belief." (Qur'an 52:35-36) And this is where God makes it clear. For everything that begins to exist something has to cause it to exist, and so can something come into existence from nothing? So something cannot be its own cause, if it does not even exist to cause itself. Now, modern science states the universe began to exist, and that means something caused the universe to come into existence. The universe would, therefore, have a cause that is both outside and separate from it that would need to have existed before the universe came into being. But that leads to the question: Who caused the cause? And I believe the entire universe is a series of cause-and-effects. Which means something caused something, that in turn caused something, that in turn caused something. But eventually something had to have started the first "cause" but there must be a first uncaused first cause. For an analogy, I would use a series of dominos. If we look at the last domino, and trace it back to the first we see that something would have had to have cause the first to fall, that "got the ball rolling." The same applies to the universe, and this cause would have to be eternal, because if it had a beginning it would need a cause. And that would have a cause, and that would have a cause, and that would have a cause! And it is logically not possible to have a never ending series of events, and so logic would state that there is a single necessarily eternality that is the uncaused first cause of the entire physical and temporal universe. And it would be this first cause that we call God.

I spotted the circular argument early in.
>Everything has a beginning because god said so.
>Therefore, god.

If you can prove the first part and redefine god to mean the creation of the universe, then you're right. But then that's not god anymore.

Actually, I didn't make the claim that everything has a beginning because God said so, I said everything has a beginning because Science says so. Directly from what I said, "now, modern science states the universe began to exist..."
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:42 am

Cill Airne wrote:Actually, I didn't make the claim that everything has a beginning because God said so, I said everything has a beginning because Science says so. Directly from what I said, "now, modern science states the universe began to exist..."

Except there's nothing in science that says everything has a beginning.
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Postby Cill Airne » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:45 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:Actually, I didn't make the claim that everything has a beginning because God said so, I said everything has a beginning because Science says so. Directly from what I said, "now, modern science states the universe began to exist..."

Except there's nothing in science that says everything has a beginning.

I am in Biology class right now and asked my biology teacher, she said everything has to have a beginning. How can it not? My chemistry teacher agrees as well.
So, something in Science must say it.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:45 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
For Russ! FOR THE WOLFTIME!

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:lol:
What if he has to go to the bathroom?

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:46 am

Cill Airne wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Except there's nothing in science that says everything has a beginning.

I am in Biology class right now and asked my biology teacher, she said everything has to have a beginning. How can it not? My chemistry teacher agrees as well.
So, something in Science must say it.

That's nice, now actually give some tangible evidence. There's literally nothing in science that says everything had a beginning.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:46 am

Cill Airne wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Except there's nothing in science that says everything has a beginning.

I am in Biology class right now and asked my biology teacher, she said everything has to have a beginning. How can it not? My chemistry teacher agrees as well.
So, something in Science must say it.

Go ask a physics teacher. Mention cosmology and the beginning of the universe when you do.
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