What has Obama done for you?

[Ceannairceach]

How else should they react in that situation?

Not jumping the gun and raising prices on one of their biggest customers, and instead enter into dialogue to reduce regulation to a point that is safe for the United States but still produces a profit for the oil companies?

[Coffee Cakes]

Does Obama really have control over the prices at the pump?

No -- but the Republicans will harp on it as if he controls the oil companies foreeeeeeeverrrrrr!

Uh, Kat... I'm libertarian... >.>

[Hittanryan]

Really? How'd he do that? I wasn't aware that the President controlled the oil companies.

Uh, putting a near stop to offshore drilling and opposing Keystone isn't gonna help lower gas prices or foster independence from oil for our enemies will it? Exactly.

Offshore drilling and Keystone won't do either of those things either. Between oil speculators, China and India's massive demand, and our own overuse, gas prices are never going back down. By the time new wells and the pipeline come online, any benefit they might have had will be obliterated by ever-increasing prices.

[Chinese Regions]

Without him, this wouldn't happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWIPY9h0Go

[Ceannairceach]

Pictured: regulated to hell.

>Stop offshore drilling
>DURR NOT OBAMAS FAULT

>George bush invades iraq
>NO MOAR BLOOD FOR OIL

liberals gonna lib.

He stopped offshore drilling in the wake of an environmental disaster. That is not his fault.

[Coffee Cakes]

How else should they react in that situation?

Not jumping the gun and raising prices on one of their biggest customers, and instead enter into dialogue to reduce regulation to a point that is safe for the United States but still produces a profit for the oil companies?

That's overthinking it, and while I do support that idea, is that really gonna be in anyone's thought process?

[Jocabia]

Really? How'd he do that? I wasn't aware that the President controlled the oil companies.

Uh, putting a near stop to offshore drilling and opposing Keystone isn't gonna help lower gas prices or foster independence from oil for our enemies will it? Exactly.

Ah, as someone who actually works for oil companies most of the time, I find this one most amusing.

If, say, BP, one of the larger corporations that takes oil from our ground, were to be allowed to indiscriminately drill out all the oil that is available in the US what would the effect be and why? Assume all drilling is allowed. Again, what would the effect be?

Now, I'll give you a couple of notes so you don't look ignorant. Once oil is extracted from US soil, it does not belong to the US. At all. Not one drop of it. So once it leaves our soil, BP, a foreign company, has no obligation whatsoever to sell it first in the US market or to sell it for less than Saudi oil goes for.

So the only effect that oil from the US can have on gas prices is if it increases the global supply enough to lower gas prices worldwide.

Now, using the fact, please explain to me how much oil you think Obama is preventing from being drilled that it would lower gas prices in the US? I'll note that oil drilling increased significantly under Bush and so did gas prices.

As for the pipeline, again, be specific, in what way will it increase the availability of oil and gas in the US? Remember that part of the reason that pipeline is going where its going is so it can reach a port and they can easily ship oil to wherever and whoever.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

As a Canadian, I feel he has brought back to the US a sense of respect. The President has a good head on his shoulders, especially in the realm of foreign policy. He has restored the US's standing in the international sphere, and instead of sabre rattling, and continuing the entire "them versus us" mentality of the Republicans and Geo. W. Bush, he understands the value of diplomacy and of working together with others to build a consensus.

Well done, Mr. President, I wish you all the luck in the world on your re-election bid.

Canadians dont realize that tripling the national debt is a bad thing, and that Obama is George W Bush, Term three.

Source for his TRIPLING of the US national debt?

[Forster Keys]

Tried our slang out:

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/strineing ... 1nko1.html

[Ceannairceach]

Not jumping the gun and raising prices on one of their biggest customers, and instead enter into dialogue to reduce regulation to a point that is safe for the United States but still produces a profit for the oil companies?

That's overthinking it, and while I do support that idea, is that really gonna be in anyone's thought process?

So you're blaming Obama for the idiocy of the oil companies and their refusal to negotiate? You don't see how that's unfair?

[Unchecked Expansion]

Really? How'd he do that? I wasn't aware that the President controlled the oil companies.

Uh, putting a near stop to offshore drilling and opposing Keystone isn't gonna help lower gas prices or foster independence from oil for our enemies will it? Exactly.

Domestic production is up to the highest level in 8 years. Doesn't seem like he's really killed the industry

[Odins Scandinavia]

Does Obama really have control over the prices at the pump?

No -- but the Republicans will harp on it as if he controls the oil companies foreeeeeeeverrrrrr!

nah, no way stopping offshore drilling would have any effect on prices at the pump. but no more blood for oil, amirite?

Liberals gonna lib

[Hittanryan]

Uh, putting a near stop to offshore drilling and opposing Keystone isn't gonna help lower gas prices or foster independence from oil for our enemies will it? Exactly.

Ah, as someone who actually works for oil companies most of the time, I find this one most amusing.

If, say, BP, one of the larger corporations that takes oil from our ground, were to be allowed to indiscriminately drill out all the oil that is available in the US what would the effect be and why? Assume all drilling is allowed. Again, what would the effect be?

Now, I'll give you a couple of notes so you don't look ignorant. Once oil is extracted from US soil, it does not belong to the US. At all. Not one drop of it. So once it leaves our soil, BP, a foreign company, has no obligation whatsoever to sell it first in the US market or to sell it for less than Saudi oil goes for.

So the only effect that oil from the US can have on gas prices is if it increases the global supply enough to lower gas prices worldwide.

Now, using the fact, please explain to me how much oil you think Obama is preventing from being drilled that it would lower gas prices in the US? I'll note that oil drilling increased significantly under Bush and so did gas prices.

As for the pipeline, again, be specific, in what way will it increase the availability of oil and gas in the US? Remember that part of the reason that pipeline is going where its going is so it can reach a port and they can easily ship oil to wherever and whoever.

Is it true that the vast majority of the oil in Alaska is sold overseas?

[Coffee Cakes]

Canadians dont realize that tripling the national debt is a bad thing, and that Obama is George W Bush, Term three.

Source for his TRIPLING of the US national debt?

Tripling is being quite generous.
Obama has racked up more debt than every other POTUS combined.

While some of his goals are quite noble actually, (ObamaCare, being the most obvious) we don't have the funds to support any of it.

[Ceannairceach]

No -- but the Republicans will harp on it as if he controls the oil companies foreeeeeeeverrrrrr!

nah, no way stopping offshore drilling would have any effect on prices at the pump. but no more blood for oil, amirite?

Liberals gonna lib

Because fuck the environment, and screw the Gulf, amirite?

Conservatives gonna con me out of a decent life.

[Ceannairceach]

Source for his TRIPLING of the US national debt?

Tripling is being quite generous.
Obama has racked up more debt than every other POTUS combined.

While some of his goals are quite noble actually, (ObamaCare, being the most obvious) we don't have the funds to support any of it.

I believed he asked for a source, not more bitching.

[Coffee Cakes]

That's overthinking it, and while I do support that idea, is that really gonna be in anyone's thought process?

So you're blaming Obama for the idiocy of the oil companies and their refusal to negotiate? You don't see how that's unfair?

I'm blaming Obama on the fact that he's either oblivious to how they react, or willfully knowing and ignoring of it.

[Hittanryan]

No -- but the Republicans will harp on it as if he controls the oil companies foreeeeeeeverrrrrr!

nah, no way stopping offshore drilling would have any effect on prices at the pump. but no more blood for oil, amirite?

Liberals gonna lib

Actually, it probably wouldn't. How long do you think it'll take to get new wells online, exactly? Read Jocabia's post, as well.

Ancaps gonna ignore reality. Am I doing it right?

[Katganistan]

No -- but the Republicans will harp on it as if he controls the oil companies foreeeeeeeverrrrrr!

nah, no way stopping offshore drilling would have any effect on prices at the pump. but no more blood for oil, amirite?

Liberals gonna lib

No way oil pouring into the water destroyed the tourist industry or the fishing industry because the regulated to hell company couldn't be bothered to get off its ass and plug the damned thing for three months. And no way that was a waste of your precious oil, amirite?

Going to troll some more?

[Jocabia]

No -- but the Republicans will harp on it as if he controls the oil companies foreeeeeeeverrrrrr!

nah, no way stopping offshore drilling would have any effect on prices at the pump. but no more blood for oil, amirite?

Liberals gonna lib

Again, oil production in the US is the highest it has been in 8 years. Since Obama has been in office oil production has increased by 10%. What you're claiming simply isn't true. There is no evidence that increasing domestic production lowers local prices. None. Oil does not work like that.

Quick question, BP, a company that has been responsible for a number of oil disasters that cost the US economy billions of dollars, is from what country? Hint: it ain't the US. Why would foreign companies give special treatment to the US when they are not required to?

[Laerod]

So how about you?

Got me featured in an HBO movie.

[Radiatia]

He didn't go around invading countries, and then claim that his imaginary friend told him to.

Apart from that he doesn't really affect me as he lives on the other side of the world.

He is great orator though, and as far as Presidents go he's easier on the eyes than other ones.

[Ceannairceach]

So you're blaming Obama for the idiocy of the oil companies and their refusal to negotiate? You don't see how that's unfair?

I'm blaming Obama on the fact that he's either oblivious to how they react, or willfully knowing and ignoring of it.

So, you are, then. Obama is making decisions that he feels are benefits to the nation; If the oil companies don't like it, it is their responsibility to enter into negotiations to meet a compromise, not attempt to damage the nation further.

You can't expect the President to do everything. The opposition has to take responsibility for their mistakes.

[Hittanryan]

Source for his TRIPLING of the US national debt?

Tripling is being quite generous.
Obama has racked up more debt than every other POTUS combined.

While some of his goals are quite noble actually, (ObamaCare, being the most obvious) we don't have the funds to support any of it.

You need some figures. Now.

[Farnhamia]

Really? How'd he do that? I wasn't aware that the President controlled the oil companies.

Uh, putting a near stop to offshore drilling and opposing Keystone isn't gonna help lower gas prices or foster independence from oil for our enemies will it? Exactly.

Odd, because the US dependence on foreign oil has continued dropping under President Obama. Linky And this administration has continued policies that are quite friendly to the oil industry, which is why environmentalists grind their teeth all the time.