Tony Blair wants to bomb Iran

[Terraliberty]

One comment could be considered false on a mere technicality that doesn't stand. The Conservatives were in power when Tony Blair became the Labour leader so I should be the one calling FALSE!

When the election was held in 1997, the British people did not elect Tony Blair as Prime Minister. They each individually elected their MP, leading to the PLP having the majority in the HoC. At this point Blair, as the Leader of the PLP, was appointed PM. This is exactly the same to what happened with Brown, except that the PLP were already the majority party when Brown became leader of the PLP.

So both were elected -- by their constituents and then by the PLP. Neither were elected by the general public. What's bullshit is to claim that Blair was elected and Brown was not.

We knew exactly who the party leader was and therefore who would become our prime minister if Labour won. I'm not debating this point with a retard who's only in this thread to argue so comment away but I'm skipping straight past them. I'm not dumbing down by reading your sad drivel. If you don't have any relevant points to make why don't you find another thread?

[Lacadaemon]

This is quite possibly the worst thread I've ever seen on NationStates. The quality of posts in this place has really gone down the drain. Bring back Jolt!

U really don't know much about NSG if this is worst thread you've ever seen.

[KaIashnikov]

Israel is the most serious nuclear threat in the Mideast.

Bomb them first.

Why would we bomb the one person in the mid east that we want to have nuclear abilities? Its just an extra-stay the fuck away from me (all my neighbors)

[Natapoc]

This is quite possibly the worst thread I've ever seen on NationStates. The quality of posts in this place has really gone down the drain. Bring back Jolt!

Awe the thread just needs some love is all. I love you all!

Tony blair is just joking around. He does not really want to bomb iran.

For one thing he probably can't operate a bomb without a secretary or speechwriter or something and he would be arrested at the Iranian airport by anti terrorism agents. You can't just go bombing people and get away with it.

Besides the Iranian people are nice. Why would anyone want to bomb them?

[The Romulan Republic]

He just said that Iran can't be allowed to have Nuclear weapons. I just saw it on the telly.

He didn't specifically say that he wanted to bomb Iran, but given that he is the third anti-christ, and that he likes bombing things (proven fact, look at his record), I think Iran is next up.

If I was that amadinnerjacket guy I'd be building nukes like tomorrow would never come at this point. Clearly the forces of the 'west' are looking for a target for more 'democracy'.

So, he didn't say he wanted to bomb Iran, but because he's made some bad decisions in the past, that obviously must be what he meant?

How is that any different than simply lying (unless you were trying to make a joke)?

[Kryozerkia]

One comment could be considered false on a mere technicality that doesn't stand. The Conservatives were in power when Tony Blair became the Labour leader so I should be the one calling FALSE!

When the election was held in 1997, the British people did not elect Tony Blair as Prime Minister. They each individually elected their MP, leading to the PLP having the majority in the HoC. At this point Blair, as the Leader of the PLP, was appointed PM. This is exactly the same to what happened with Brown, except that the PLP were already the majority party when Brown became leader of the PLP.

So both were elected -- by their constituents and then by the PLP. Neither were elected by the general public. What's bullshit is to claim that Blair was elected and Brown was not.

We knew exactly who the party leader was and therefore who would become our prime minister if Labour won. I'm not debating this point with a retard who's only in this thread to argue so comment away but I'm skipping straight past them. I'm not dumbing down by reading your sad drivel. If you don't have any relevant points to make why don't you find another thread?

Since it's obvious this was directed at a single poster, we can quickly deduce that the intent of Terraliberty was to insult UNIverseVERSE. Therefore, warned for flaming.

[Krytenia]

Tony who? Blair?

Oh yes, that's a Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds.

Tony Blair is Ian Gibson now?

[Allbeama]

Iran's lucky that they haven't been crushed already. A few centuries ago, they'd never have gotten away with saying the stuff they've been saying.

Well the nation we call Iran is fairly young, as in its age is not measured in centuries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_history
It was once commonly known as Persia. Iran is a modern country. The country as we know it today was "born" in the 20th Century.

[Baltija]

As if NATO could attack Iran, it has it's hands full. Iran has no need to worry.

Yes, we can.

quote="Soratsin";p="635624"]

last time i check this was the term for a fanatic pursuing jihad

So it's ok to murder people in the name of god as long as you're not holding a Quran when you do it. right.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7451691.stm
best way to describe this is the equivilant of a religious hill billy saying gtfo

4 men beating a 68 year old woman with baseball bats simply because she exists is saying "go away"?

Your delusional bias is showing.[/quote]

Nobody is murdering muslims in name of God, we are doing this `cause they want to murder us in name of their god.

[Insertdecentnamehere]

Nobody is murdering muslims in name of God

I am.

[The_pantless_hero]

Countries used to go to war over virtually nothing in the old days.

Or like the US in the modern day.

[Yootopia]

This is quite possibly the worst thread I've ever seen on NationStates. The quality of posts in this place has really gone down the drain. Bring back Jolt!

Mmm yes I'm sure someone who's been on the forum for about 3 weeks has masses of perspective on the relative quality of Jolt vs. new NSG forums -_-

[Yootopia]

A couple things you people should know.

1. Tony Blair isn't the 3rd Antichrist, that one has yet to appear.
2. Israel is the only middle eastern nation that should have nukes.
3. We shouldn't bomb Iran, we should embargo them, destroy their economy and take away their nukes.
4. All of the above are true!

A couple of things for you, squire :

1) People were taking the piss with the Antichrist thing.
2) Israel is not in the Middle East. It's in the Levant.
3) The already-existing essential embargo on Iran has done the US no good. See also other US embargoes such as Cuba. Sanctions never really affect the leadership of any country. Saddam still had his opulent palaces while his population starved.

[Greed and Death]

I guess it is the UK's turn to lead us into a quagmire.

Don't worry UK we will be right behind you.
And in US fashion we will wait 2-4 years before we come and help.

[Basement-Cat]

Blair --> treason --> trial --> jail

[The Norse Hordes]

Iran's lucky that they haven't been crushed already. A few centuries ago, they'd never have gotten away with saying the stuff they've been saying.

Yes they would have. A few centuries ago, they were part of the most powerful empires in the world.

[Greed and Death]

Iran's lucky that they haven't been crushed already. A few centuries ago, they'd never have gotten away with saying the stuff they've been saying.

Yes they would have. A few centuries ago, they were part of the most powerful empires in the world.

I assume you mean the Safavid Dynasty
They collapsed in 1722, and were in decline by the 1650's.

[Angleter]

You do know that Tony Blair has no power right?

He's still Prime Minister of the UK. Everyone knows that. Gordon Brown is a myth, perpetrated upon the unwary by terrorist apologists.

perhaps a myth-take, but not a myth.

That's more like it. The sad shame is that the opposition are just as bad, if not worse. We're effin doomed!

It's a textbook example of "Whoever wins, we lose".

Still, I'd rather have the average Gordon Brown over that whiny pre-pubescent prick David Cameron.

THINGS LABOUR DID:

-Tuition fees
-Sold off the gold
-Invaded Iraq
-Let Rover die
-Bloated the State to the point where parts of the UK have more State-run economies than Cuba
-Ended 10p tax
-Invaded Afghanistan
-Stayed in Afghanistan
-Funnelled money into a benefit system that almost encourages people to go on the dole
-Invented HIPs, which were at least in part responsible for the 2007 Housing collapse in the UK
-Continued tightening HIP legislation as the housing market went down the plughole
-Nationalised Northern Rock when Virgin were perfectly willing to buy it up
-Made various half-baked education 'reforms' instead of returning to the original grammar school-based system
-Abolished the hereditary House of Lords so they could flood it with cronies, as they have done
-Turned our only good bank bad by getting Lloyds to buy Halifax and all its unprofitable assets
-Idiotically started on a neo-Keynesian "spend your way out of a recession" ideology that's nearly sent us to the wall
-Had the temerity to attack the Tories for suggesting that we might need to cut spending to stop us going to the wall
-Started 'quantitative easing' and nearly got the Pound on parity with the Euro
-Continued the spending theory even when the more fiscally-restrained France and Germany got out of recession before us
-Er...
-That's it.

Now I'm no Cameron fan, but surely Labour need to be voted out of office for all this.

[Barrettstia]

You do know that Tony Blair has no power right?

He's still Prime Minister of the UK. Everyone knows that. Gordon Brown is a myth, perpetrated upon the unwary by terrorist apologists.

perhaps a myth-take, but not a myth.

That's more like it. The sad shame is that the opposition are just as bad, if not worse. We're effin doomed!

It's a textbook example of "Whoever wins, we lose".

Still, I'd rather have the average Gordon Brown over that whiny pre-pubescent prick David Cameron.

THINGS LABOUR DID:

-Tuition fees
-Sold off the gold
-Invaded Iraq
-Let Rover die
-Bloated the State to the point where parts of the UK have more State-run economies than Cuba
-Ended 10p tax
-Invaded Afghanistan
-Stayed in Afghanistan
-Funnelled money into a benefit system that almost encourages people to go on the dole
-Invented HIPs, which were at least in part responsible for the 2007 Housing collapse in the UK
-Continued tightening HIP legislation as the housing market went down the plughole
-Nationalised Northern Rock when Virgin were perfectly willing to buy it up
-Made various half-baked education 'reforms' instead of returning to the original grammar school-based system
-Abolished the hereditary House of Lords so they could flood it with cronies, as they have done
-Turned our only good bank bad by getting Lloyds to buy Halifax and all its unprofitable assets
-Idiotically started on a neo-Keynesian "spend your way out of a recession" ideology that's nearly sent us to the wall
-Had the temerity to attack the Tories for suggesting that we might need to cut spending to stop us going to the wall
-Started 'quantitative easing' and nearly got the Pound on parity with the Euro
-Continued the spending theory even when the more fiscally-restrained France and Germany got out of recession before us
-Er...
-That's it.

Now I'm no Cameron fan, but surely Labour need to be voted out of office for all this.

Half the things you mentioned aren't even issues that the government should have been dealing with, so your perceived failures in them are irrelevant. As for the rest, well the Tories also supported Iraq and Afghanistan. The only major party that didn't was the Lib Dems. And they didn't make tuition fees. Those have always been there. They may have given disapproving looks when they were abolished in Scotland but again, so did the Tories.

Also I'm going to hazard a guess here and assume that you're too young to really remember all the bollocks the Tories did when they were last in power. The economy was in a much more sorry state then.

[Carbarosia]

Good for him.

[New Mitanni]

He just said that Iran can't be allowed to have Nuclear weapons. I just saw it on the telly.

He didn't specifically say that he wanted to bomb Iran, but given that he is the third anti-christ, and that he likes bombing things (proven fact, look at his record), I think Iran is next up.

If I was that amadinnerjacket guy I'd be building nukes like tomorrow would never come at this point. Clearly the forces of the 'west' are looking for a target for more 'democracy'.

From Blair's lips to God's ear. 30 years overdue.

[New Mitanni]

Nobody is murdering muslims in name of God, we are doing this `cause they want to murder us in name of their god.

You're half-right. We aren't "murdering" anyone.

[Kobrania]

Nobody is murdering muslims in name of God, we are doing this `cause they want to murder us in name of their god.

You're half-right. We aren't "murdering" anyone.

No one deserves to die, no matter what wrong they have commited.

[Kobrania]

Nobody is murdering muslims in name of God, we are doing this `cause they want to murder us in name of their god.

You're half-right. We aren't "murdering" anyone.

No one deserves to die, no matter what wrong they have commited.
I regard all who carry and use arms against another as murderers

[Lunatic Goofballs]

I propose, borrowing a scene from Dr Strangelove that anyone interested in and willing to bomb another country should at least have the decency to ride the bomb down. *nod*