4 year old dealer busted at school

[Vault 10]

People are sometimes little kids, I don't trust all the people, I don't trust the brain capacity of all the people. Some people are not capable to make good decisions.

Then they will die. If someone's mental capacity isn't sufficient to stay away from the shit, it's not a bad thing when they go to a different place. It's just natural selection.

[Vault 10]

And the gangs would disappear if the hard drugs were legal? The gangs would look for another income or still sell hard drugs legal and illegal: there's big money involved, even if it was legal.

What profit is there in using a criminal syndicate to sell a legal drug? Marts do that job far better: they have less expenses and more volume. It's just more cost-efficient that way. Point in case: alcohol and tobacco. Both are pretty hard stuff compared to say pot.

I saw 2 documentaries about what crystal meth is doing to the people in US cities like Fresno: well that's not my kind of society. If hard drugs would be legal then THAT is what you get (and even far worse).

One small caveat.
We are getting it already.
The kind of people doing that crap will do it in either case.

[Hairless Kitten II]

People are sometimes little kids, I don't trust all the people, I don't trust the brain capacity of all the people. Some people are not capable to make good decisions.

Then they will die. If someone's mental capacity isn't sufficient to stay away from the shit, it's not a bad thing when they go to a different place. It's just natural selection.

This is ridiculous, selfish and completely inhumane.

Many hard drugs addicts started rather young: their brain wasn’t fully developed yet.
Most people underestimate the addiction factor: they think ‘oh well, one try doesn’t harm…’

For crack and crystal meth, one try could be too late.

And even if you don’t care about people, like you, then it’s in your own benefit that society is counting fewer hard drugs addicts: they still walk around for several years, time they will use to commit, by instance, nice crimes that would hurt you.

[Hairless Kitten II]

And the gangs would disappear if the hard drugs were legal? The gangs would look for another income or still sell hard drugs legal and illegal: there's big money involved, even if it was legal.

What profit is there in using a criminal syndicate to sell a legal drug? Marts do that job far better: they have less expenses and more volume. It's just more cost-efficient that way. Point in case: alcohol and tobacco. Both are pretty hard stuff compared to say pot.

I saw 2 documentaries about what crystal meth is doing to the people in US cities like Fresno: well that's not my kind of society. If hard drugs would be legal then THAT is what you get (and even far worse).

One small caveat.
We are getting it already.
The kind of people doing that crap will do it in either case.

Weed is legal in my country. If you think there's no illegal weed business here, then you don't know about what you're talking.

Often they offer me illegal cigarettes. Ordinary Marlboro ones. Sometimes they come from countries like Albania, sometimes they are fake - made in China and sometimes they are the real ones produced in the Belgian factory!

The input, the buying, can be legal, the output, the selling can be illegal.

In my country about 4/5 of the price for cigarettes goes to the government: Excise & Taxes.
So when you skip the government then it's for criminal groups a lucrative business to sell cigarettes .

The same would happen with hard drugs.

[Kobrania]

And the gangs would disappear if the hard drugs were legal? The gangs would look for another income or still sell hard drugs legal and illegal: there's big money involved, even if it was legal.

What profit is there in using a criminal syndicate to sell a legal drug? Marts do that job far better: they have less expenses and more volume. It's just more cost-efficient that way. Point in case: alcohol and tobacco. Both are pretty hard stuff compared to say pot.

I saw 2 documentaries about what crystal meth is doing to the people in US cities like Fresno: well that's not my kind of society. If hard drugs would be legal then THAT is what you get (and even far worse).

One small caveat.
We are getting it already.
The kind of people doing that crap will do it in either case.

Weed is legal in my country. If you think there's no illegal weed business here, then you don't know about what you're talking.

Often they offer me illegal cigarettes. Ordinary Marlboro ones. Sometimes they come from countries like Albania, sometimes they are fake - made in China and sometimes they are the real ones produced in the Belgian factory!

The input, the buying, can be legal, the output, the selling can be illegal.

In my country about 4/5 of the price for cigarettes goes to the government: Excise & Taxes.
So when you skip the government then it's for criminal groups a lucrative business to sell cigarettes .

The same would happen with hard drugs.

Without proper study you have no backing on what would and wouldn't be.

[Hairless Kitten II]

And the gangs would disappear if the hard drugs were legal? The gangs would look for another income or still sell hard drugs legal and illegal: there's big money involved, even if it was legal.

What profit is there in using a criminal syndicate to sell a legal drug? Marts do that job far better: they have less expenses and more volume. It's just more cost-efficient that way. Point in case: alcohol and tobacco. Both are pretty hard stuff compared to say pot.

I saw 2 documentaries about what crystal meth is doing to the people in US cities like Fresno: well that's not my kind of society. If hard drugs would be legal then THAT is what you get (and even far worse).

One small caveat.
We are getting it already.
The kind of people doing that crap will do it in either case.

Weed is legal in my country. If you think there's no illegal weed business here, then you don't know about what you're talking.

Often they offer me illegal cigarettes. Ordinary Marlboro ones. Sometimes they come from countries like Albania, sometimes they are fake - made in China and sometimes they are the real ones produced in the Belgian factory!

The input, the buying, can be legal, the output, the selling can be illegal.

In my country about 4/5 of the price for cigarettes goes to the government: Excise & Taxes.
So when you skip the government then it's for criminal groups a lucrative business to sell cigarettes .

The same would happen with hard drugs.

Without proper study you have no backing on what would and wouldn't be.

I do not need a study to understand that the amount of hard drug users would rise a lot when it would be legal.

[Vault 10]

Then they will die. If someone's mental capacity isn't sufficient to stay away from the shit, it's not a bad thing when they go to a different place. It's just natural selection.

This is ridiculous, selfish and completely inhumane.
Many hard drugs addicts started rather young: their brain wasn’t fully developed yet.

In your country weed may be legal, but try and buy alcohol in US if you're under 21. Yes, you can, but you need a bit or in some states more than a bit of effort to do that.

Drugs will be even harder to get. In fact, they'll remain as hard to get for an underage as they are now, through illegal means only.

Most people underestimate the addiction factor: they think ‘oh well, one try doesn’t harm…’

Natural selection, as I've said. As those who underestimate it die out without reproducing, only those who don't underestimate remain in the future generations.


And, no, a sinister joke of slipping some into your glass doesn't create a physical addiction one can't break away from without special aid. It's just craving for more that gets people addicted, only then comes the physical part.

And even if you don’t care about people, like you, then it’s in your own benefit that society is counting fewer hard drugs addicts: they still walk around for several years, time they will use by instance to commit nice crimes that will hurt you.

Since their brains are deteriorated, chances are they'll get caught and exterminated.

[Kobrania]

And the gangs would disappear if the hard drugs were legal? The gangs would look for another income or still sell hard drugs legal and illegal: there's big money involved, even if it was legal.

What profit is there in using a criminal syndicate to sell a legal drug? Marts do that job far better: they have less expenses and more volume. It's just more cost-efficient that way. Point in case: alcohol and tobacco. Both are pretty hard stuff compared to say pot.

I saw 2 documentaries about what crystal meth is doing to the people in US cities like Fresno: well that's not my kind of society. If hard drugs would be legal then THAT is what you get (and even far worse).

One small caveat.
We are getting it already.
The kind of people doing that crap will do it in either case.

Weed is legal in my country. If you think there's no illegal weed business here, then you don't know about what you're talking.

Often they offer me illegal cigarettes. Ordinary Marlboro ones. Sometimes they come from countries like Albania, sometimes they are fake - made in China and sometimes they are the real ones produced in the Belgian factory!

The input, the buying, can be legal, the output, the selling can be illegal.

In my country about 4/5 of the price for cigarettes goes to the government: Excise & Taxes.
So when you skip the government then it's for criminal groups a lucrative business to sell cigarettes .

The same would happen with hard drugs.

Without proper study you have no backing on what would and wouldn't be.

I do not need a study to understand that the amount of hard drug users would rise a lot when it would be legal.

Which is a good thing, their deaths would open alot of jobs.

[Non Aligned States]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market and tax free smuggled and imitation goods.

[Kobrania]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market and tax free smuggled and imitation goods.

Imitation coke...cool...probably less harmful too

[Hairless Kitten II]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market and tax free smuggled and imitation goods.

Imitation coke...cool...probably less harmful too

The fakes are not only illegal but pose an extra health hazard to smokers buying them, warn ministers.

Criminal gangs have the cigarettes made mainly in Eastern Europe and China to look like well-known brands.

More than a million fakes - containing high levels of substances like lead and arsenic - are seized daily in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4096911.stm

[Vault 10]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market

Only if the tax exceeds the expense of operating an illegal trade.

If the tax is 400%, yes, it works that way.
But if the tax is 20%, there's no illegal trade as it's not profitable.

[Hairless Kitten II]

And the gangs would disappear if the hard drugs were legal? The gangs would look for another income or still sell hard drugs legal and illegal: there's big money involved, even if it was legal.

What profit is there in using a criminal syndicate to sell a legal drug? Marts do that job far better: they have less expenses and more volume. It's just more cost-efficient that way. Point in case: alcohol and tobacco. Both are pretty hard stuff compared to say pot.

I saw 2 documentaries about what crystal meth is doing to the people in US cities like Fresno: well that's not my kind of society. If hard drugs would be legal then THAT is what you get (and even far worse).

One small caveat.
We are getting it already.
The kind of people doing that crap will do it in either case.

Weed is legal in my country. If you think there's no illegal weed business here, then you don't know about what you're talking.

Often they offer me illegal cigarettes. Ordinary Marlboro ones. Sometimes they come from countries like Albania, sometimes they are fake - made in China and sometimes they are the real ones produced in the Belgian factory!

The input, the buying, can be legal, the output, the selling can be illegal.

In my country about 4/5 of the price for cigarettes goes to the government: Excise & Taxes.
So when you skip the government then it's for criminal groups a lucrative business to sell cigarettes .

The same would happen with hard drugs.

Without proper study you have no backing on what would and wouldn't be.

I do not need a study to understand that the amount of hard drug users would rise a lot when it would be legal.

Which is a good thing, their deaths would open alot of jobs.

I don't think that many crack and crystal meth addicts are working.
Instead they break into your car, seek access uninvited to your house, rape your wife, molest your children, maybe kill you for $5

Make it legal and the amount of such people will multiply, causing more trouble to you, the so-called civilized citizen.

Anyway, your cruel selfish utopia is having a problem: it doesn't exist, so dream on baby.

[Kobrania]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market and tax free smuggled and imitation goods.

Imitation coke...cool...probably less harmful too

The fakes are not only illegal but pose an extra health hazard to smokers buying them, warn ministers.

Criminal gangs have the cigarettes made mainly in Eastern Europe and China to look like well-known brands.

More than a million fakes - containing high levels of substances like lead and arsenic - are seized daily in the UK.

I only smoke weed so we're cool.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4096911.stm

[Classical Liberal]

We need more and better trained recreational consumables distributors. Training them starting at 4 years old will help... but not if they get busted. Good idea, terrible implementation.

It's the free market at work!

The fail, in that post, can not be easily described in words.

Anyway, this is pathetic. Hopefully the father rots in prison.

[Hairless Kitten II]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market

Only if the tax exceeds the expense of operating an illegal trade.

If the tax is 400%, yes, it works that way.
But if the tax is 20%, there's no illegal trade as it's not profitable.

I can make alcohol at a cheaper price than I can buy it. However, there's a risk that you will be permanent blind after drinking the stuff.

Legal business have to take care about rules, quality, ISO rulings, sterilized areas, etc...
The illegal variant doesn't have to.

[Hairless Kitten II]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market and tax free smuggled and imitation goods.

Imitation coke...cool...probably less harmful too

The fakes are not only illegal but pose an extra health hazard to smokers buying them, warn ministers.

Criminal gangs have the cigarettes made mainly in Eastern Europe and China to look like well-known brands.

More than a million fakes - containing high levels of substances like lead and arsenic - are seized daily in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4096911.stm

I only smoke weed so we're cool.

Maybe you smoked too much weed to know that they put all kind of shit in your 'healthy' weed.

[Vault 10]

I can make alcohol at a cheaper price than I can buy it. However, there's a risk that you will be permanent blind after drinking the stuff.

That's exactly why you are buying it and not making it.

(BTW, no, it's not cheaper unless your time is worthless.)

[Non Aligned States]

Imitation coke...cool...probably less harmful too

Oh, I don't know. They might decide to cut it with sulfur. That would be a bit more harmful than regular cocaine.

Only if the tax exceeds the expense of operating an illegal trade.

If the tax is 400%, yes, it works that way.
But if the tax is 20%, there's no illegal trade as it's not profitable.

But if it becomes legal, then less priorities go towards enforcing anti-drug measures, which reduce the risk and cost of operating illegally. Furthermore, like most illicit industries, cheap non-union labor and tax avoidance ensures that your bottom line will always be lower than that of a legal company.

Additionally, if it's legal, then there's probably some sort of standards to adhere to, which hike up legal operating costs in quality control. Illicit operations will bypass most of that.

Perhaps not as profitable as it used to be, but smuggled drugs will most likely be more profitable than legal ones.

[Kobrania]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market and tax free smuggled and imitation goods.

Imitation coke...cool...probably less harmful too

The fakes are not only illegal but pose an extra health hazard to smokers buying them, warn ministers.

Criminal gangs have the cigarettes made mainly in Eastern Europe and China to look like well-known brands.

More than a million fakes - containing high levels of substances like lead and arsenic - are seized daily in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4096911.stm

I only smoke weed so we're cool.

Maybe you smoked too much weed to know that they put all kind of shit in your 'healthy' weed.

I Know the source. I don't need 'skunk' or anyof that shit.

[Seculartopia]

Kids gotta learn a profession sooner or later - I hear drug dealing is a growth industry.

Who knows, he can work through the ranks and become a Colombian drug lord. *nods*

Honestly, if the USA would repeal drug laws, and regulate drugs like they do with alcohol & cigarettes, we probably would not have prison over population.

I can't wait to see the streets loaded with heroin-, cocaine-, crack- & crystal meth users.

Hey, whatever people want to put into their bodies is their business, not the government.

You know one country where heroin, cocaine, crack or crystal meth is allowed?

Anyway, till they put some heroin in the body of your 16 year old daughter - with her permission.

Hard drug users cause a lot of problems to the society:

They are raising criminality.
They are raising traffic casualties
A significant share isn’t working and thus eating welfare or unemployment cheques.
They increase the healthcare costs for all
…

So in your view a society hasn’t the right to protect itself against these threats?

I doubt that you could find one single mother of a hard drug addict that would share your point of view.

Every society is having rules & laws. If you think you could do what you want any time and any place then you're putting yourself outside the society. Why not searching for an uninhabited island to express your lifestyle and thus not harming our society anymore?

Your never going to undermine them, with laws or police action. Legalize drugs, and tax the freaking goodness out of them!

[Kobrania]

The war on drugs cannot win, as long as there is demand, there will be a supplier.

[Hairless Kitten II]

We have major gang problems here in Blighty, all funded by illegal substances. If they were legal, they wouldn't have that income.

If it was legal, it would be taxable. That would increase prices. Helloooo black market and tax free smuggled and imitation goods.

Imitation coke...cool...probably less harmful too

The fakes are not only illegal but pose an extra health hazard to smokers buying them, warn ministers.

Criminal gangs have the cigarettes made mainly in Eastern Europe and China to look like well-known brands.

More than a million fakes - containing high levels of substances like lead and arsenic - are seized daily in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4096911.stm

I only smoke weed so we're cool.

Maybe you smoked too much weed to know that they put all kind of shit in your 'healthy' weed.

I Know the source. I don't need 'skunk' or anyof that shit.

Analyse the THC rating in your weed, with that of the weed of the 60ties...

[Hairless Kitten II]

The war on drugs cannot win, as long as there is demand, there will be a supplier.

Winning isn't the goal, getting the current status quo will do.

Make it legal and the amount of addicted hard drug users would explode. And that is not the kind of society I want to live in.


Btw, whatever you would do, there will be still rape, active paedophiles, murder... You can't win that one too, so let's make it legal! Brilliant, isn't?

[Vault 10]

But if it becomes legal, then less priorities go towards enforcing anti-drug measures, which reduce the risk and cost of operating illegally. Furthermore, like most illicit industries, cheap non-union labor and tax avoidance ensures that your bottom line will always be lower than that of a legal company.

Yes, yes, yes, except instead of "will always be" put "there's a small chance it can be for some time".

I don't see people lining up at the illegal competitor to Walmart.