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Clinton, 9/11, and the Republicans born-again "virginity"

Postby Phenia » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:27 pm

From Crooks and Liars and originally Driftglass:

“...they turned to prayer, beseeching
that the sin which had been committed
might be wholly blotted out.”
-- 2 Maccabees. 12:42


Once upon a time, there was a President named Bill Clinton, who was, by most historical standards, a typical Centrist Republican, although by a fluke of geography and circumstances he ran for public office with a "(D)" after his name.

Under his Administration, many Conservative ideas which had long gathered dust on the shelf -- ideas such as welfare reform, a balanced budget, debt reduction, a strict “Pay as You Go” fiscal regime, a boom in technology jobs, budget surpluses, NAFTA, GATT, official bans on gay marriage, etc. -- were finally realized.

And for all of his good work on behalf of their ideology, Conservatives spent eight, long years treating Bill Clinton -- a Southern, White, Christian man -- as if he were a case of flesh eating nuclear syphilis.

Because he did not run for office with an "(R)" after his name.

And because he did not run for office with an "(R)" after his name, according to the leading voices in the Republican Party and the Conservative Movement, Bill Clinton was, in no particular order, Hitler, a Socialist, a rapist, a warmonger, a serial murderer, and a drug dealer, whose Presidency was somehow vaguely illegitimate.

And counterpointing the 24/7 slime campaign, there were those endless, endless hearings. Whitewater. Travel office. Christmas Card lists. Lincoln bedroom. Etc ad nauseum.

Or don’t you remember?

He was “Not my President!” (Ollie North: War criminal, terrorist arms dealer, GOP Senate Candidate [1994] and FoxNews Contributor.)

He was warned “not to set foot in my state.” (Jesse Helms: Professional Bigot, Confederate Senator, 1820-2003)

His picture was used for target practice by G. Gordon Liddy. (Watergate felon, would-be assassin, radio 'personality' and Republican hero.)

From "The American Prospect":

...it's worth remembering just how virulent the opposition to Clinton's presidency was. Republicans began plotting to impeach Clinton long before anyone had ever heard the name "Lewinsky," and many on the right simply refused to accept that he legitimately occupied the office he held. Then-House Majority Leader Dick Armey, when talking to Democrats, used to refer to Clinton as "your president."


It was a warped, hysterical campaign funded by wealthy Right Wing thugs like Richard Mellon Scaife and propagated by wealthy Right Wing thugs like Rupert Murdoch who made sure the lies were jack-hammered into the headlines day after day, year after year.

And judging by its objectives, it was also a very successful campaign: it legitimized and metastasized Hate Radio; killed the credibility of the "objective" media once and for all; made the overt mass-slander of political opposition by the Right acceptable; moved radicals, militia nuts, bigots, Creationists and Limbaugh zombies to the center of the Republican Party; accelerated the exodus of reasonable moderates the hell out of the Republican Party; destroyed the possibility of public discourse; and kicked the door open to the use of Congressional hearings as instruments of political vendetta.

But as successful as it was, it was also an incredibly high-risk strategy, because of a thing called the "public record".

The public record meant that each and every time a Republican stood up to, say, slam the Democrat Commander-in-Chief during a time of war (from The Poor Man Institute:)
“You can support the troops but not the president”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

“President…is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”
-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)

“American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy.”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

“If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.”
-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W. Bush

“I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning…I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.”
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

“Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years”
-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

“Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?”
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

“This is President Clinton’s war, and when he falls flat on his face, that’s his problem.”
-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

“Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly.”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

they left a documentary trail wide and bright enough to be visible from space.

Or from the next election cycle.

The public record meant that every frivolous Republican witch hunt and every syllable of hate and demagoguery gleefully poured out through public megaphones and megachurch pulpits to malign and demonize the Left could potentially represent a thick bar on the cage of any future Republican president's imperial ambitions.

Because, after all, should the tables ever turn -- should there ever be a Republican President whose election really was suspect, or who really did lie to the American public and flagrantly abuse his office, and did it in ways that cost the nation trillions of dollars and thousands of lives -- after spending eight years establishing a public record in such clear and unambiguous language what the Hell could the Right possibly say?

After conspiring to bring about two of the most destructive events in modern American history -- the impeachment of a US President over trivia, and the probable theft of the subsequent Presidential election -- to what God could Republicans possibly pray that their eight years of insanity, venom and violence "might be wholly blotted out?”

On 09/11/01, their dark miracle came winging its way out of a clear, blue sky.

Eight years ago, this is what we all saw.

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All of us, all together across all political, cultural and religious spectra watched the worst thing many of us had ever seen.

Together.

But in what now seems like less time than it took to wipe away our tears, the same depraved thugs who sponsored eight years of "Clinton Murdered Vince Foster!" hysteria began hijacking of our pain and patriotism to serve their partisan interests right before our eyes.

The minute the Bush Administration began trying to stretch the war they got into an excuse for the war they wanted, 9/11 stopped being merely a national tragedy and started being the Bush Administration's bottomless political ATM machine.

The minute the Party of Personal Responsibility began using the mantra "9/11 changed everything" as the political equivalent of the Blood of Christ -- as a means to absolve themselves of their personal responsibility for eight years of malice and derangement -- for them September 11, 2001 stopped being a moment of shared, national anguish and started being a suit of cultural body-armor which magically deflected any criticism of their lies and their and hypocrisy.

An impervious sniper's nest from which they could cynically escalate their war on the Left.

Or don't you remember the day the Right robbed the graves of all those who perished on 9/11 to turn this
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into their all-purpose
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"Get Out of the 90s Free" card?

And the thing is, it worked.

By selling 9/11 for a mess of wingnut pottage, the Right bought itself an anti-Liberal free-fire zone and two Presidential terms-worth of blank checks. Two terms of an alternately supportive and supine media. Two terms of catastrophe, corruption and treason protected from scrutiny by an ablative shield made out of solid "Why do you hate America?", and a promise that they could go on barebacking diseased monsters in the alley all night long, every night, forever and wake up each morning miraculously clean, virginal and still beloved in the eyes of God.

But they forgot that tempus just keeps fugiting along. And as time passed, the Right got so accustomed to butt-scooting their depravity all over the public square and never being called on it they simply stopped noticing that they were amassing a whole new post-9/11 public record so despicable and overflowing with Conservative atrocities that it positively dwarfed their antics during the Clinton Years.

And that brutal, meth-addict level of dependence on never being brought to book for anything they say or do left the Right completely unprepared for the one thing their leaders promised would never happen again.

Losing.

And losing has driven them a special kind of crazy; that screaming-incoherently-and-lashing-out-in-every-direction kind of cold-turkey junkie withdrawal crazy.

In the few, short months since they lost, they have emptied out their entire store of raving invective and delusion.

Losing has left them insisting that that the legally elected President of the United States somehow isn't really the President. That he is a secret enemy. A Communist. A Hitler. A Muslim sleeper cell. A Chicago gangster.

Has left them swearing that "their country" has been stolen and that somewhere hidden in secret code in a 1,000 health care bill is a plan to murder senior citizens.

To understand how deep and relentless their addiction goes, you need only consider the recent example of Mrs. Katy Abram, who leaped into microcelebrity and the wingnut pantheon a month ago with her Clown Hall rant of “I don’t want my county to become Russia!” speech.

Mrs. Katy Abram wants the world to believe that, like a wingnut Sleeping Beauty, she somehow slept through 9/11.

Slept through two wars and the two trillion dollar bill they racked up.

Slept through tax cuts for the wealthy that added another few trillion to our debt.

Slept through Katrina.

Slept through Terri Schiavo.

Slept through the screams of the Constitution as Bush Administration fed it an inch at a time through the wood chipper (the same Constitution she is now so deeply concerned about that she has somehow become, virtually overnight, an “original intent” quote-spewing expert) only to be awakened in a sudden, patriotic fury by the sound of a Black Democrat taking the oath of office.

I’m sure in Mrs. Abram’s mind – and in the tiny little minds of tens of millions of Americans just like her – she sees absolutely no contradiction between explaining that she never paid any attention to a single news item prior to January of 2009....and saying that she started paying attention in 1991 "when we first went to the Gulf War" and that she has debated politics with friends at the opposite end of the political spectrum “a million times over”.

It is, in fact, a sign of the depth and effectiveness of their brainwashing that people like Mrs. Abram see no conflict between saying in one breath “I have never been interested in politics” and "I always seem to have faith in the government“ in the next.

Because during the Bush years, people like Mrs. Abram never saw their love of their Dear Leader and their fealty to his Administration as something "political". They saw it as normal. As the Universe being at its proper, wingnut default setting: White, male, fundamentalist Christian, Conservative, flight-suit clad and killing scary brown people. And as long as that remained true, all was right with the world and people like Mrs. Abram were absolved by their "Don't Worry, Go Shopping" leaders of any responsibility for paying attention to anything their government was actually doing.

And once the Dear Leader's reign ended, as far as people like Mrs. Abram were concerned, the natural order of mindless obedience in exchange for a smug and blissful ignorance collapsed. "Their country" was suddenly broke and screwed up for reasons that they dared not think about too much. "Their country" was suddenly awash in dirty effing hippies, who for some reason were no longer satisfied with being cultural punching bags. "Their country" suddenly had politicians and activists who said mean things about the Dear Leader and the Republican Party...and got away with it!

And worst of all, "their country" suddenly had a Scary Black Man living in their Dear Leader's pretty White House, probably having dirty, Muslim sex in the Dear Leader's sacred, Christian bed and putting his filthy, Kenyan hands all over "their county's" pure, white Constitution.

So, for example, when you hear the same people who fanatically supported President George W. Bush when he famously told Iraq war critics to go to hell--

"Well, we had an accountability moment, and that's called the 2004 election."

-- now insisting, less that a year after the 2008 elections, that President Barack Obama needs to:

"...scrap the current grandiose plans and to start over."

or when you see the mobs on the Right being whipped by talk of secession or revolution or spilling the "blood of tyrants" into a nearly-pornographic frenzy, understand that what you are witnessing are the echoes of political decisions made in the wake of September 11, 2001.

Political decisions that trained the Right to believe, on a visceral level, that a sufficiently bloody and horrifying disruption to the life of the country can -- if properly exploited -- wash away their eight otherwise-unforgivable years of sin and restore "their country" to its proper, wingnut default setting.

That if the right sacrifices are made to the right gods in just the right way, then they can be virgins again.


I 100% agree with this article. Discuss!
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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:39 pm

Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.
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Postby Barzan » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:43 pm

Chrobalta wrote:Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.

Seriously? Bill Clinton was to the right of the Canadian Tories. Most Americans are. Sure, he was no fanatical talibangelist, but there used to be half-decent republicans. Not now though -- just a bunch of rabid populist fanatic dogmatists
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Postby CommunistSovietAmerica » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:43 pm

Chrobalta wrote:Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.


That's alittle....extreme?

Clinton was very liberal. And since when is universal healthcare a consrvative idea? :eyebrow:
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Postby Reblle » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:44 pm

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Postby Barzan » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:46 pm

CommunistSovietAmerica wrote:Clinton was very liberal. And since when is universal healthcare a consrvative idea? :eyebrow:
Only in the propaganda of a bunch of uneducated morons who believe the Holocaust didn't happen. Actually, "conservatives" in all countries that have such systems tend to support it, as do economists of most stripes. It pragmatism.
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Postby Milks Empire » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:46 pm

Chrobalta wrote:Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.

Not abolished. Rendered obsolete. So do the Democrats, for that matter.

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Postby Der Teutoniker » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:46 pm

Chrobalta wrote:The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.


Yeah, people shouldn't have the right to think what they want, and organize that belief into a political party in this Democratic Replublic of ours. :roll:
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Barzan wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.

Seriously? Bill Clinton was to the right of the Canadian Tories. Most Americans are. Sure, he was no fanatical talibangelist, but there used to be half-decent republicans. Not now though -- just a bunch of rabid populist fanatic dogmatists

You say it like its a bad thing.
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Barzan wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.

Seriously? Bill Clinton was to the right of the Canadian Tories. Most Americans are. Sure, he was no fanatical talibangelist, but there used to be half-decent republicans. Not now though -- just a bunch of rabid populist fanatic dogmatists

letting gays serve in the military, (don't ask don't tell was a compromise that would allow gays in, so long as they do not tell anybody), he signed labor laws that protected workers, Raised taxes, Creation of Americorps, Gun control, Increased minimum wage, Veto'd partial birth abortion ban.

Just from that list right their, by todays standards, he is an evil commie tyrant dictator who is trying to destroy America. Just imagine what he would have been called if healthcare passed!!!
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:52 pm

I like it. It has some really good points. I really liked the "flesh eating nuclear syphilis." I also loved the quotes of republicans denouncing under Clinton the very things they supported under bush.

Just for the sake of being fair... Democrats do similar things. Both parties are abandoning the people. But the republicans seem even more... [duped?]... then the democrats at least right now.
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SaintB wrote:
Barzan wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.

Seriously? Bill Clinton was to the right of the Canadian Tories. Most Americans are. Sure, he was no fanatical talibangelist, but there used to be half-decent republicans. Not now though -- just a bunch of rabid populist fanatic dogmatists

You say it like its a bad thing.

It's not a bad thing to have a dysfunctional political system, devoid of real opposition, real alternative ideas? Whose only purpose is to destroy what little there is left just so they can feel good about themselves?
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Milks Empire wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:Bill Clinton is further left than most people give him credit for. But yeah, that article seems to be spot on. The Republican party needs to be abolished - End of.

Not abolished. Rendered obsolete. So do the Democrats, for that matter.

True that. Proportional representation baby! Death to the two party system!
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Chrobalta wrote:Image

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And of course those same people see hopes for eight more disastrous glorious years of right wingnut rulership:
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Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby BrightonBurg » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:03 pm

Riiiiiiight..


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Postby Non Aligned States » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:03 pm

I wonder, with all this hate and lies that get tossed about like no tomorrow, I wonder how constitutional, or accepted, a law penalizing fabrications, intentional or accidental, in news media would be. Anywhere from fines to revocation of license to perhaps even jail time.

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Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Chrobalta wrote: *SNIP*


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Non Aligned States wrote:I wonder, with all this hate and lies that get tossed about like no tomorrow, I wonder how constitutional, or accepted, a law penalizing fabrications, intentional or accidental, in news media would be. Anywhere from fines to revocation of license to perhaps even jail time.


If such a law was ever passed and not struck down somehow, FOXNews is going to be invaded like Afghanistan and Iraq, combined.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:08 pm

Gauthier wrote:And of course those same people see hopes for eight more disastrous glorious years of right wingnut rulership:
[snip]Sarah Palin Image[/snip]

If Palin were ever to be elected to the executive... I'd be defecting from the US...
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Postby Intangelon » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:10 pm

Well wrote by...whoever wrote it. Love the Republicans hanging themselves with their own words -- hate the fact that the "liberal" media missed all of it completely.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:12 pm

Intangelon wrote:Well wrote by...whoever wrote it. Love the Republicans hanging themselves with their own words -- hate the fact that the "liberal" media missed all of it completely.

Capitalist media, not liberal media.

Whoever pays more, gets more.

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Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Intangelon wrote:Well wrote by...whoever wrote it. Love the Republicans hanging themselves with their own words -- hate the fact that the "liberal" media missed all of it completely.

Capitalist media, not liberal media.

Whoever pays more, gets more.

:D


Sort of like health care currently. No wonder the Right is throwing pissy fits over the proposed reforms.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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