Bullying, damaging or helpful?

[Kazarogkai]

life is a jungle when you are a loner and have to fend for yourself.

You have been very badly injured too, just in a different way.

How have i been badly injured? only bad injury i had was when i busted my middle finger from tripping on it (I'm a little clumsy) it wasn't so bad only bad part was when my mom said "Get the F**** over it" i was a little kid at the time and it hurt my feelings, this is before i learned my lessons and became stronger.

[Kazarogkai]

You think i'm a sociopath? well ok, i see no problem with that if you wish to call me a sociopath well fine call me a sociopath if you wish. but just to see if i am a true socipath lest look at the medical definition of sociopath.

Antisocial personality disorder(sociopath)
It is characterized by at least 3 of the following:

1. Callous unconcern for the feelings of others
2. Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
3.Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them
4.Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
5.Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
6.Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society

well i admit i am pretty strongly # 1, depending on the circumstances #2 because if i do not agree with them and they go against my own i will generally not care to follow them, i am half of #3, and i am also half of #5. well i guess i am a sociopath...Yay?

It's a bit more complicated that what you'll find on the web, and difficult to diagnose, especially in youth. (IDK how old you are.)
Really though, I didn't mean a literal sociopath, so much as I was referring to the OP and a few others who seemed to have meant it in a more metaphorical manner.
I hope.

its my birthday I'm currently 16, i celebrated and had i party, nobody came so i celebrated by myself i bought my favorite type of cake Oreo chocolate ice cream cake and i also had a few scoops of rocky road ice cream, it was a good day.

[Kazarogkai]

I can't think of any instance in which bullying has helped anyone

It helped me, it turned me into a stronger and less weak individual toughened me up showed me the world is a bed of roses, "it looks nice, but can still cut you up really bad." I'm proud of the fact i got through it and was able to overcome, it is my greatest accomplishment.

[Kazarogkai]

It helped me, it turned me into a stronger and less weak individual toughened me up showed me the world is a bed of roses, "it looks nice, but can still cut you up really bad." I'm proud of the fact i got through it and was able to overcome, it is my greatest accomplishment.

Doesn't sound like it's helped you.

To you no, to your shitty society no, but that is irrelevant for your opinions do not mean much to me in my opinion it has helped me and that is all that matters. Whether or not i consider i have improved and love who i am is all that matters in the end for in the end the opinions of others ring hollow and are worthless.

[Kazarogkai]

To you no, to your shitty society no, but that is irrelevant for your opinions do not mean much to me in my opinion it has helped me and that is all that matters. Whether or not i consider i have improved and love who i am is all that matters in the end for in the end the opinions of others ring hollow and are worthless.

Not exactly making a strong case here...

what do you mean by that?

[Kazarogkai]

Why does your opinion matter and ours don't?

The opinions of others have and never will help me, your worthless to me unless proven otherwise. So why should i care what you think, what you say when all it does is drag me down and annoy me? My opinion matters to me and in the end that is all that will matter when i have turned to dust. Everyone is always trying to damage me in some way why should i think otherwise no one i have met has given me reason to think differently and never will. A show of low self esteem is when you think others opinion of you supersede your own, that's one of the reason why those weaklings kill themselves because they let other get to them rather than accept who they are, they rely on others to keep their self esteem up, that in my opinion is quite pitiful.

[Kazomal]

I honestly think people who complain about bullying are just a part of this age were everyone wants to be the victim and pitied. Everyone these days is out to get attention and being a victim is an easy, quick way to get that attention.

Yeah, same with all those pussies who call the cops when they get robbed our assaulted.

In fact, fuck laws. Just a bunch a pussies and whiners, am I right? We should just settle everything with guns.

[Kazomal]

We live in a culture dominated by women. A culture where being a grown man watching shows made for 8 year old little girls is acceptable in some circles. More than 70% of teachers are female. Those females are in position of power, and have become many of our role models rather than men also not forgetting that many young men are raised by single mothers. The real problem here I believe is not with bullying, but with feminization of males. Which is a symptom of our increasingly liberal for lack of a better word society.

A man needs to defend himself, and to stand up for himself against bullies. When some one disrespects his honor a man should raise to the occasion fully prepared to fight. How can he though learn these skills from a female? Most females are compassionate and caring. Rarely do females concern themselves with the testosterone driven behaviors of men.

We are told "be nice" when it is to no consequence of ourselves. Then when we're defending our honor or defending ourselves on the playground we are punished. What were these fists made for if not the defense of honor and self? These manly fists.

The biggest criminal here through all of this though is public schooling. It forces children into school regardless of their whims. It oppresses and neuters many young men. I wish for boys to some day work besides other men, and to be influenced by and develop male role models.

Bullshit.

Wow, so much BS. You have a really twisted view of masculinity and strength.

[Lackadaisical2]

(a 12-13 year old doing weights you say?)

I know I did, and a few others as well.

[Lemurian Islands]

I won't deny that bullying may have pushed some people into moving in a positive direction, but it has had very damaging effects on other individuals. Some people are driven to suicide by bullying, how can you call that positive! Apart from suicide, there are other negative effects from bullying, it really damages some peoples self-confidence and they won't achieve things that they would otherwise have been capable of.

[Lenehen]

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[Licentiapacisterra]

I was bullied too, and have completely moved on from it. But that wasn't thanks to the bullies. That was because I turned 'round and said, "I don't give one what you think of me, it only matters what I think." But it wasn't the bullies that did that. It was me. It shows strength of character to ignore and walk through it, but that doesn't make bullying helpful. There are too many victims.

[Licentiapacisterra]

I was bullied for the past several years, although it was mostly verbally and psychologically. It was excruciating. Several times I reached my breaking point and ended up hitting people. I've since found better ways to manage myself - generally involving shooting things on the Wii - but I believe that it has had long-lasting or even permanent effects on my social skills and psyche. For example, it's Easter, and rather than going to some church type thing with my family and talking to other people, I'm sitting here in my basement, watching an episode of Star Trek on Netflix, drinking a two liter bottle of Mountain Dew and posting on a thread on the Internet. I had friends before. Now I have one. I've been outside four times in the past week. I used to go outside every day. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the bullying psychologically ripped me to pieces, then put me back together in a very different - and in my opinion, much worse - way.
To all of you people who say that bullying is good, you make me sick. It is not possible to put into words how much you disgust me.

Well I managed, perhaps you just couldn't hack it.

I don't care about your personal stories because I know them all, I went through it and I stood up, just because you laid down and took it doesn't mean I'm wrong.

If you don't want to hear our opinions, don't post here. Simple.

[Licentiapacisterra]

If you don't want to hear our opinions, don't post here. Simple.

How does defending my opinion suggest I don't wish to hear yours.

I threw the notion that bullying was good out there not because I wholeheartedly advocate it, but because I think it is often perceived as an undoubtedly bad thing, when there are a few people who are stronger for it.

I am saying I don't want to hear your personal stories, because I want you to stick to opinions.

"Bullying is bad because I felt horrible" doesn't cut it.

You said "I don't care about your personal stories". Our personal stories in this case make up our opinions.

[Licentiapacisterra]

Given the subject matter, not nearly enough doubt. Therein lies the problem.

Well enough doubt to spark over 100 replies.

And as far as I can tell, every single one is disagreeing with you.

Wait a minute.....

Man Your Stations - NSG is Agreeing on Something !!!

[Mad hatters in jeans]

Tell that to the people who attempt suicide due to bullying.

[Maineiacs]

If the only thing you learned from being bullied was that you were going to do the same to others as soon as you were able, you are far more damaged than you care to admit.

[Maineiacs]

I was a very bullied little girl because of my looks due to Trichotillomania, and got the crap kicked out of me on several occasions and would often force myself to throw up so I wouldn't have to go to school and face them. It was terrible and I would never wish it on any child or tell them it would make them a better person, even though I would never change what happened to me because I love who I am now because of it.

I wish I could say the same. I don't love who I am because of it, and in years of therapy, that hasn't changed.

[Maineiacs]

Its both damaging and helpful.

There's a point where it gets out of line, but in general bullying is fine-ish. It makes tougher people, ready to face the real world, not sheltered little twits who can't function in society.

I would say bullies are the ones who can't function in society.

Thank you. That's it exactly.

[Maineiacs]

I agree. Bullies tend to be influenced by their environment and they will lash out and humiliate others because it is what they know. And in the end, they enjoy doing it. That's why I have no sympathy towards bullies. I don't pity them. They know that what they're doing is wrong, but won't stop.

The ones who do not see why their actions are wrong need something other than sympathy or pity.

I think that "don't care that their actions are wrong" may be more accurate than "don't understand why their actions are wrong".

[Manahakatouki]

I've never been bullied...

Perhaps I've just been living in an incredibly good area, but no bullying has occured to me and none has even taken place back in elementary school...

High school a bit of bullying occured, but not to me, and never to anyone I knew...

To those who were bullied, it was never very long, and the major bullies that I know of have either moved away or become a bit nicer...

[Mavorpen]

We live in a culture dominated by women. A culture where being a grown man watching shows made for 8 year old little girls is acceptable in some circles. More than 70% of teachers are female. Those females are in position of power, and have become many of our role models rather than men also not forgetting that many young men are raised by single mothers. The real problem here I believe is not with bullying, but with feminization of males. Which is a symptom of our increasingly liberal for lack of a better word society.

1. We have people like you on the internet whining like 5 year old boys about others liking a show. A culture like this is going to grow full of assholes who are sexist and full of bigotry. So women teach more, and? I don't see the negativity here. Being raised by a single mother of course affects you, but until you show that it makes the child more feminine, this point is useless. "Feminization of males" is one of the most sexist phrases I have ever seen.

A man needs to defend himself, and to stand up for himself against bullies. When some one disrespects his honor a man should raise to the occasion fully prepared to fight. How can he though learn these skills from a female? Most females are compassionate and caring. Rarely do females concern themselves with the testosterone driven behaviors of men.

LOL, you think fighting solves bullying effectively. Yeah, this post is a joke.

We are told "be nice" when it is to no consequence of ourselves. Then when we're defending our honor or defending ourselves on the playground we are punished. What were these fists made for if not the defense of honor and self? These manly fists.

Our fists were made so that we could hold stuff. You must have the education of a 2 year old.

The biggest criminal here through all of this though is public schooling. It forces children into school regardless of their whims. It oppresses and neuters many young men. I wish for boys to some day work besides other men, and to be influenced by and develop male role models.

Boys DO have male role models. By the way, more sexism.

[Mavorpen]

See this is what I mean. It doesn't it matter if it's sexist or full of bigotry when your ideology is conflicting to many young growing men. Are boys suppose to choose a guy a grown male I might add as a role model who watches shows about ponies or wears skinny jeans in public?

Yes it does matter. Please explain when sexism and bigotry doesn't matter. Who do you think boys choose as role models? Seems like you're just punching at a wall and whining over something that you fail to even explain. Watching a TV show can change your gender? Huh, didn't know that.

It's not about just fighting, but it's also about being prepared to stand up for yourself and fighting if you just might have to. It works I know it works just watch Gordon Ramsay in action.

Being prepared is fine. Your post made it seem like anyone who prefers to solve bullying through non-violent methods is less of a man than if they pulled out a knife and stabbed them in the eye.

No, those are our palms. You can't hold stuff with your fists.

The fuck? Do you have magical adhesion powers? PLEASE, try to hold something like a remote without making a fist motion, and just lift it with your palm. I'll be waiting to see how that turns out.

Most of them are women though!

Proof? And what's your definition of role model? Saying, "God damn, that chick in the movie is so hot... The things I would do to her!" doesn't make the woman a role model. By the way, what's wrong with having a woman as a role model? Please address the massive amounts of sexism in your post.

[Mavorpen]

Sexism and bigotry don't really matter when you're dealing with members of a certain group who have a disposition towards acting a certain way. I don't know exactly know who men choose as their role models, but Gordon Ramsay or some one along the lines of George Washington would be a great start. Men who are mostly successful, hardworking and influential.

Yes it does. So far you've

1. Implied that there are no successful and hardworking women. Otherwise why the hell would it matter if they choose a woman or a man as a role model?
2. Said that the feminization of boys is a problem, when it's not.
3. Implied that using violence against a bully is the best way to solve the problem.

Depends on the circumstance.

Let's see how that works out for the students who implement this.

[Mavorpen]

YOU DID NOT TRY HARD ENOUGH

TAKE DRUGS. KILL A BEAR.

COVER YOURSELF IN DEER PISS SO HE DOESN'T RECOGNIZE YOUR SCENT.