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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm
by Fedeledland
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.


... YOU DO NOT UNDRSTAND THE SCIENTIFIC MEANING OF THEORY.

I'm off. I've failed to see the first valid argument from Canuckistan's case, so why bother?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm
by Condunum
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Hossaim wrote:I won't, because I am a man of logic. There is the same chance that I appear in another universe after stabbing myself as there is God existing. That is roughly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.If you want bet on a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, fine, ill be here with smart and logical people betting on the
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance.

How do you know the longshot won't win?

It can be assumed that it won't, because it's statistically impossible.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:01 pm
by Hossaim
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Hossaim wrote:I won't, because I am a man of logic. There is the same chance that I appear in another universe after stabbing myself as there is God existing. That is roughly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.If you want bet on a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, fine, ill be here with smart and logical people betting on the
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance.

How do you know the longshot won't win?

I don't, but again, it's stupid to assume it will. There is a reason it's the longshot.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:01 pm
by Genivaria
Fedeledland wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.


... YOU DO NOT UNDRSTAND THE SCIENTIFIC MEANING OF THEORY.

I'm off. I've failed to see the first valid argument from Canuckistan's case, so why bother?

No seriously, just add him to your Foe list. Save's you on headache medicine.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:01 pm
by Mavorpen
Condunum wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Time started with the Big Bang. So, day 0. :palm:

As far as I know, that's pretty wrong. From what I understand, time didn't actually start with the big bang.


Time in our universe.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:01 pm
by Jerusalem and Damascus
Hossaim wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How do you know the longshot won't win?

I don't, but again, it's stupid to assume it will. There is a reason it's the longshot.


But we need to see the effects!

Think of all the science-stuff you could do!

Like find a cure for puppies, or how to turn deadly diseases into hard techno!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:02 pm
by Heirosoloa
Hossaim wrote:I won't, because I am a man of logic. There is the same chance that I appear in another universe after stabbing myself as there is God existing. That is roughly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.If you want bet on a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, fine, ill be here with smart and logical people betting on the
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance.


Now you're threatening the land of attractive, winged cloud-bitches they promised me when I die.
Also, prior to the Council of Trent, nude, attractive, winged cloud-bitches!

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:02 pm
by Soviet Canuckistan
Pope Pius XII declared, at the November 22, 1951, opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, that the Big Bang theory does not conflict with the Catholic concept of creation.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:02 pm
by Harkonna
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.

Nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope.

Religion is a story made up based on poor observations or deliberate lies made by ancient civilizations, modern con-artists, and religious psychotics that don't mesh well with their parent religions regarding the universe.

Science works with the evidence and extrapolates to the best degree of certainty what is true based upon it.

You giant laser beam perplexingly comprised of various polymers.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:02 pm
by Condunum
Mavorpen wrote:
Condunum wrote:As far as I know, that's pretty wrong. From what I understand, time didn't actually start with the big bang.


Time in our universe.

Is the big bang considered the start of time in our universe? I didn't think it was, but then, that's not my field.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 pm
by Finium
Mavorpen wrote:
Condunum wrote:As far as I know, that's pretty wrong. From what I understand, time didn't actually start with the big bang.


Time in our universe.

I've seen dr. Who, which is why I know that there is crap load more to reality than time in our universe.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 pm
by Wisconsin7
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.

Theories have evidence. Show me evidence, that doesn't involve the Bible (it could have been written as fiction) or a near death experience (could have been a subconscious putting up what's familiar).

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 pm
by Shofercia
Mavorpen wrote:
The Akkadian Empire wrote: Me? I'll enjoy time with friends and family, at church and at home, while enjoying a feast that was made possible by the Messiah that you mock and his father.


1. Boring.
2. That feast wasn't made possible by anyone other than the ones who bought it.
3. Lolwhut?

Regarding everyone else in the thread:

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Wait! You mean people might be upset when insult their faith?! Why, I am deeply, deeply shocked at this revelation!


Greater Tezdrian wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
I'm confused as hell, do you people never joke about a holiday? :palm:

Joking=/=Mocking.


Militant atheists fail to make that distinction, when it comes to religious issues.


Renascibilitas wrote:Stop giving atheist a bad name. There are other ways to criticize a religion without using incendiary tactics like this.


But thinking like that would require logic and common sense!


Hossaim wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:This is offensive, this christian holiday is to remember what Jesus did for Christians not to play violent games which encourage breaking of the commandments and beatitudes, shame, Hossaim, shame.

Why should i follow a set of "rules" written in some old book by a hermit 2000 years ago? If there was a list of Hogwarts rules in a Harry Potter book should i randomly follow them to?


You can follow a set of rules, or you cannot follow a set of rules, the choice is yours. But if you're going to mock our religion, you should realize that you might lose our respect. Just like a person posting "let's lower taxes and invade Iran" would lose respect of military historians.


Genivaria wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:We would all not be here if it was not for God, how did the Big Bang start, something called God, who's very word is guidance for humanity but some choose to ignore it and mock it and desecrate it.

Proof or GTFO.


We're still allowed to advocate Faith on NSG, without GTFoing, last time I checked. Were the rules updated in the past 5 seconds?


Mavorpen wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:So thou shalt not kill isn't a good guideline for humanity, to respect thy neighbour, to respect creation, how are those not good rules.


"Thou shalt not kill" was broken throughout the whole damn Bible. Jainism and Buddhism hold true to that belief several times better than Christianity. Why should you respect your neighbor for no reason? "Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" is how it's been for a long time. What "creation" are we respecting?


The original commandment, in the original writings, said: thou shalt not murder. It was later mistranslated as "thou shalt not kill". The translators, they have the capability to make errors, you know that, right?


Genivaria wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Where's the proof there, show us some proof.

*cough*hypocrite!*cough*


Religion is based on Faith. Soviet Canuckistan is pointing that out, by requiring atheists to show proof. How does that make him a hypocrite?

You can't prove God. You can't disprove God. Religion is Faith based. Math is number based. History is story based. You don't demand Integral Calculus to be used by Civil War Scholars in filming documentaries, do you? Then why demand that something that's Faith based, be factually proven?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 pm
by Greater Tezdrian
Harkonna wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.

Nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope.

Religion is a story made up based on poor observations or deliberate lies made by ancient civilizations, modern con-artists, and religious psychotics that don't mesh well with their parent religions regarding the universe.

Science works with the evidence and extrapolates to the best degree of certainty what is true based upon it.

You ignorant, braindead creotard.

Tone it the fuck down.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 pm
by Hossaim
Condunum wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Time in our universe.

Is the big bang considered the start of time in our universe? I didn't think it was, but then, that's not my field.

Yes, that's almost it's defenition.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 pm
by Finium
Harkonna wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.

Nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope.

Religion is a story made up based on poor observations or deliberate lies made by ancient civilizations, modern con-artists, and religious psychotics that don't mesh well with their parent religions regarding the universe.

Science works with the evidence and extrapolates to the best degree of certainty what is true based upon it.

You ignorant, braindead creotard.

You know, I think you just fell into the 10% nobody likes

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:03 pm
by Harkonna
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Pope Pius XII declared, at the November 22, 1951, opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, that the Big Bang theory does not conflict with the Catholic concept of creation.

What does that matter? Religion is still provably wrong nonsense. Try again, you 'potato.'

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:04 pm
by Heirosoloa
I almost feel bad. There's only one hardliner left to beat up.
What happened to our troves of born-agains?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:04 pm
by Vestralia (Ancient)
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I'm going to endure a lot of offensive references to the most holy holiday in my religion.


What else can we expect? *sigh*

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:04 pm
by Vaklor
Heirosoloa wrote:
Hossaim wrote:I won't, because I am a man of logic. There is the same chance that I appear in another universe after stabbing myself as there is God existing. That is roughly 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.If you want bet on a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance, fine, ill be here with smart and logical people betting on the
99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% chance.


Now you're threatening the land of attractive, winged cloud-bitches they promised me when I die.
Also, prior to the Council of Trent, nude, attractive, winged cloud-bitches!

Come to Pastafarian heaven, we have beer volcanoes and stripper factories :)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:04 pm
by Jerusalem and Damascus
Harkonna wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Religion is a theory, a lot of stuff surrounding the Big-Bang is theory such as existence of certain particles and such, we all have our own theories, both sides have their unknowns.

Nopenopenopenopenopenopenopenopenope.

Religion is a story made up based on poor observations or deliberate lies made by ancient civilizations, modern con-artists, and religious psychotics that don't mesh well with their parent religions regarding the universe.

Science works with the evidence and extrapolates to the best degree of certainty what is true based upon it.

You ignorant, braindead creotard.


Cool it.

Harkonna wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Pope Pius XII declared, at the November 22, 1951, opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, that the Big Bang theory does not conflict with the Catholic concept of creation.

What does that matter? Religion is still provably wrong nonsense. Try again, you barely sentient, incoherent, vile worm.


Seriously, this is going far too hostile.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:05 pm
by Cu Math
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Pope Pius XII declared, at the November 22, 1951, opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, that the Big Bang theory does not conflict with the Catholic concept of creation.

Pope innocent III declared geese were made of fruit. So much logic its astounding.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:05 pm
by Harkonna
Finium wrote:You know, I think you just fell into the 10% nobody likes

Probably.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:05 pm
by Wisconsin7
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Pope Pius XII declared, at the November 22, 1951, opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, that the Big Bang theory does not conflict with the Catholic concept of creation.

The Sun does not exist.
What I have said is clearly false. That does not change the fact that I said it.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:05 pm
by Hossaim
Cu Math wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Pope Pius XII declared, at the November 22, 1951, opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, that the Big Bang theory does not conflict with the Catholic concept of creation.

Pope innocent III declared geese were made of fruit. So much logic its astounding.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: