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How was god created?

The Akkadian Empire wrote:The Big Bang created my testicles? Really?

Hey, without looking anything up on Wikipedia or Google, describe in detail how the Big Bang worked, step by step, and how it came to making "Homo Sapiens" like you or me?

No? You can't? You don't fully understand that which you so believe in? To the full degree?

Neither do I. So, maybe you can keep that "Get the fuck over it" to yourself?

The Big Bang was started by some hyperconcentrated matter that was incredibly hot and dense and expanded and is now cooling, various forms of matter, electrons and protons and such started interacting and creating atomic structures which over billions of years ended up forming things like suns and planets and such. Earth had a number of these elements which eventually formed a water cycle. These elements and the water cycle and such eventually allowed electrical activity to create amino acids and such which interacted with each other and via random chance created RNA which created ribozymes and led to the first cells.

From there, each mutation in the structures of the cells changed their chance to make it or to die horribly, and then over billions of years of that nonsense, we came about. Evolution is wonderfully simple.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:
Except we never claim that. It works though. You know that computer you're using? Physics. Not God. PHYSICS.

But who made physics happen, everything comes from something, but how was that something created.

...No one made physics happen. Physics is a creation of humanity (and other sentient species who possibly exist in the universe) to explain things and make predictions and observations about the universe.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How does this have anything to do with Easter?

The person who just spent 11 pages debating it is going to say we're off-topic?

Harkonna wrote:How was god created?

How do we know God was created and not a force like nuclear force and stuff like that.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How does this have anything to do with Easter?

Nothing, it's fun as hell though.

Mavorpen wrote:

The Akkadian Empire wrote:
I do not follow "Pascal's Wager", so thanks for enlightening me. Perhaps now you will tell me that Shakesphere did not write any of his plays and was a fraud, or something else that has no burden on me?

What you described is Pascal's Wager.

I don't like Shakespeare.

I described it because that was aligned with the comment the man I quoted made. Again, has no effect on me.

And the Tragedy of Julius Caesar was one of the best plays ever written, by Shakesphere or not.

Renascibilitas wrote:

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How does this have anything to do with Easter?

The person who just spent 11 pages debating it is going to say we're off-topic?

Yep, I said it, just pointing it out.

Mavorpen wrote:

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How does this have anything to do with Easter?

Nothing, it's fun as hell though.

Atheists and Christians agree on something.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:

Harkonna wrote:How was god created?

How do we know God was created and not a force like nuclear force and stuff like that.

... Nuclear energy starts and ends.

And then how do you know the Big Bang was created, following your same (flawed) path of thought?

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:Nothing, it's fun as hell though.

Atheists and Christians agree on something.

We also agree that one of us is wrong.

The Akkadian Empire wrote:

Genivaria wrote:If I was given undeniable proof that a "God" exists. I would become a believer. I would change my mind there.
How many theists can say the same?

If I was given undeniable proof that God does not exist, I would revoke my faith in God and change my mind?

Yes, but I daresay that there is no possibility of that happening. So your point is moot.

You do realize that the "proof" your asking for is logically impossible right? It is impossible to prove a negative.
I could disprove evidence of what you claim, like hair found in a large footprint can be dis-proven and found to be the hair of a doll, but that does not disprove the possibility of the existence of Bigfoot.

Therefore the default position when hearing a wild claim is skepticism until proven true.
To not understand that is to not understand logic.

How do we know the universe was not created at any point before the big bang, and that singularity was always here, and there was no 'creation' of the singularity?

I get the joke about this thread and I will spend time with my family having a nice dinner...afterwards playing some Resident Evil ORC

The Akkadian Empire wrote:I described it because that was aligned with the comment the man I quoted made. Again, has no effect on me.

And the Tragedy of Julius Caesar was one of the best plays ever written, by Shakesphere or not.

I know. What you described is Pascal's Wager, regardless of who you quoted. Once again, it's a shit argument, and every intelligent person knows it.

That's subjective.

Renascibilitas wrote:

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Atheists and Christians agree on something.

We also agree that one of us is wrong.

One of us answers with the truth, one of us lies. You may ask one deep and meaningful question.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:Nothing, it's fun as hell though.

Atheists and Christians agree on something.

We probably agree on a ton of things.

Conserative Morality wrote:

The Akkadian Empire wrote:The Big Bang created my testicles? Really?

Hey, without looking anything up on Wikipedia or Google, describe in detail how the Big Bang worked, step by step, and how it came to making "Homo Sapiens" like you or me?

No? You can't? You don't fully understand that which you so believe in? To the full degree?

Neither do I. So, maybe you can keep that "Get the fuck over it" to yourself?

The Big Bang was started by some hyperconcentrated matter that was incredibly hot and dense and expanded and is now cooling, various forms of matter, electrons and protons and such started interacting and creating atomic structures which over billions of years ended up forming things like suns and planets and such. Earth had a number of these elements which eventually formed a water cycle. These elements and the water cycle and such eventually allowed electrical activity to create amino acids and such which interacted with each other and via random chance created RNA which created ribozymes and led to the first cells.

From there, each mutation in the structures of the cells changed their chance to make it or to die horribly, and then over billions of years of that nonsense, we came about. Evolution is wonderfully simple.

This hypercocentrated matter came from where? How did it get so incredibly hot?

Man has no way to know for sure that, billions of years ago that exactly happened. Man cannot even form a widely agreed basis on what happened a MILLION years ago.

Fedeledland wrote:

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How do we know God was created and not a force like nuclear force and stuff like that.

... Nuclear energy starts and ends.

And then how do you know the Big Bang was created, following your same (flawed) path of thought?

How did this matter get here, it had to come from somewhere, *cough*God*cough*

The Akkadian Empire wrote:

Hossaim wrote:But Heaven and Hell both don't exists so what's the point.

Quite simply it is better to live a life of Good than Evil, Faithful to a God or not.

But Kierkegaard proved that morality exists without god! (since you already use one dead philosopher, i'll use one) External Morality exists without god, because it benefits mankind! Your religion does nothing for man that an atheist with charity couldn't do (please, only tangible, cohesive, corporeal evidence. Otherwise, its bunk)

Mavorpen wrote:

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Atheists and Christians agree on something.

We probably agree on a ton of things.

Except on where we come from.

Mavorpen wrote:

The Akkadian Empire wrote:I described it because that was aligned with the comment the man I quoted made. Again, has no effect on me.

And the Tragedy of Julius Caesar was one of the best plays ever written, by Shakesphere or not.

I know. What you described is Pascal's Wager, regardless of who you quoted. Once again, it's a shit argument, and every intelligent person knows it.

That's subjective.

Pascal's Wager?

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:

Fedeledland wrote:
... Nuclear energy starts and ends.

And then how do you know the Big Bang was created, following your same (flawed) path of thought?

How did this matter get here, it had to come from somewhere, *cough*God*cough*

Branes.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:

Fedeledland wrote:
... Nuclear energy starts and ends.

And then how do you know the Big Bang was created, following your same (flawed) path of thought?

How did this matter get here, it had to come from somewhere, *cough*God*cough*

Hey take astrophysics or read my post. Either way, not god.

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:

Mavorpen wrote:
We probably agree on a ton of things.

Except on where we come from.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?