HAPPY ZOMBIE JESUS DAY

[Mavorpen]

What? That contradicts everything the quote says.

No, no it doesn't.

Faith is an assertion that a particular belief is true, meaningful and worthy of our trust and effort, no matter what. You do realize that "no matter what" includes when all of the evidence and logic contradicts the belief or idea correct?

[Soviet Canuckistan]

true, but people change our beliefs into a commercialized crapshoot

You're the one who just justified Christianity by citing commerce.

I also find it hilarious that the only relevance you can find for your beliefs is that it makes people shop more. Why not just throw everything out and have ''Thou shalt shop''?

I'm just pointing it out, that Christianity hasn't been totally futile.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

You are not helping, seriously. From one atheist to another, do you honestly think that insulting theists will help at all? If not, then why are you doing it?

Because I'm mad. I am aware that it does not, however, justify my actions in insulting said persons, however apt the aggressive name calling was. For the name calling, I apologize. It was most certainly childish of me to do so.

It's forgiven, Hark.

Now five weeks in the pit of Shame, where you shall live among the waste and cat sized maggots.

And cannibals.

Can't forget the cannibals.

[Harkonna]

"Faith is a decision we make and continue to make over time. Faith is an assertion that a particular belief is true, meaningful and worthy of our trust and effort, no matter what. You can change or disprove beliefs but faith is bedrock solid. You can have faith in ideas, in practices, in institutions and organizations, in people and gods, in whatever you choose to bind yourself to. It is the act of binding that is faith."
-Sannion

Denial of reason and logic in favor of plugging your ears and shouting about Jesus is not true faith. It is intellectual weakness.

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Are you kidding? Let me break down that quote.

"Faith is an assertion that a particular belief is true, meaningful and worthy of our trust and effort, no matter what."
Yes, irregardless of reality/evidence.

"You can have faith in ideas, in practices, in institutions and organizations, in people and gods, in whatever you choose to bind yourself to. It is the act of binding that is faith."
As soon as you bind yourself to an idea, that entity or school of thought in your mind becomes infallible, and cannot be disproven.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS REGULAR FAITH. ARE YO-
Deep breaths. Deep breaths.

[Hossaim]

You're the one who just justified Christianity by citing commerce.

I also find it hilarious that the only relevance you can find for your beliefs is that it makes people shop more. Why not just throw everything out and have ''Thou shalt shop''?

I'm just pointing it out, that Christianity hasn't been totally futile.

Christianity has been incredibly helpful and aided in many scientific discovers over the years, but were past it now. Time to move towards logic.

[Eaglleia]

At first I was like....the hell? Then I realized you were mocking Easter.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

That is a bad question, to say the least.

You may not be able to fathom it, but I am a proud Christian, I believe that God almighty exists, and I believe Jesus Christ is his son and the Messiah. Ergo, I believe that since God exists, all the things possible to create such a feast would not exist (just as we would not exist).

Really. Christians get to massacre Native Americans, invade holy lands, and the rest of us can't call Easter Zombie Jesus day.

Really.

Not all of us kill Native Americans, just like not all Muslims blow up planes.

[Heirosoloa]

It's forgiven, Hark.

Now five weeks in the pit of Shame, where you shall live among the waste and cat sized maggots.

And cannibals.

Can't forget the cannibals.

Arrg! Barely got my arm back from those heathens barbarians.

[Conserative Morality]

Define Western Culture, without being overbroad. Oh wait...

Any culture deriving a significant part of it's legal and philosophical ideas either from Classical Rome or from the Enlightenment.

You might as well claim that we're all children of the Earth, and thus we all have the same culture.

No.

God no.

[Norstal]

You can't prove God. You can't disprove God. Religion is Faith based. Math is number based. History is story based. You don't demand Integral Calculus to be used by Civil War Scholars in filming documentaries, do you? Then why demand that something that's Faith based, be factually proven?

When it's about god, you need to prove that he doesn't exist.

When it comes to leprechauns, I don't need to prove that they don't exist.

[Harkonna]

Oh good, Cannibals. Everyone loves Cannibals.

[Genivaria]

No, no it doesn't.

Faith is an assertion that a particular belief is true, meaningful and worthy of our trust and effort, no matter what. You do realize that "no matter what" includes when all of the evidence and logic contradicts the belief or idea correct?

The Catholic Church has had a LOT of practice at that.

[Renascibilitas]

Really. Christians get to massacre Native Americans, invade holy lands, and the rest of us can't call Easter Zombie Jesus day.

Really.

Not all of us kill Native Americans, just like not all Muslims blow up planes.

You're bad at getting the point.

[Vaklor]

wow, no reply in a whole 10 seconds. im shocked.

[Vestralia (Ancient)]

Really. Christians get to massacre Native Americans, invade holy lands, and the rest of us can't call Easter Zombie Jesus day.

Really.

Not all of us kill Native Americans, just like not all Muslims blow up planes.

Islamic Functionalists "blew up planes" within a lifetime, so it is a bit different.

*Fuck you autocorrect. I meant Fundamentalists.

[Genivaria]

wow, no reply in a whole 10 seconds. im shocked.

[Genivaria]

Not all of us kill Native Americans, just like not all Muslims blow up planes.

Islamic Functionalists "blew up planes" within a lifetime, so it is a bit different.

*Fuck you autocorrect. I meant Fundamentalists.

[Cu Math]

Our beliefs also help the economy, the economy would suck without Christmas shopping season.

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
From the book of matthew, your ass has just been served.

[Mavorpen]

wow, no reply in a whole 10 seconds. im shocked.

We lost one of the people who were desperately offended by the OP.

[Finium]

Not all of us kill Native Americans, just like not all Muslims blow up planes.

You're bad at getting the point.

If I pointed out your sig, would be angry?

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Not all of us kill Native Americans, just like not all Muslims blow up planes.

You're bad at getting the point.

We don't like you disrespecting our holidays, not all Christians agree with massacre and invasions like that.

[Condunum]

wow, no reply in a whole 10 seconds. im shocked.

I thought I wouldn't see a more useless post than quoting oneself. I was wrong.

[Andropoland]

You can't prove God. You can't disprove God. Religion is Faith based. Math is number based. History is story based. You don't demand Integral Calculus to be used by Civil War Scholars in filming documentaries, do you? Then why demand that something that's Faith based, be factually proven?

When it's about god, you need to prove that he doesn't exist.

When it comes to leprechauns, I don't need to prove that they don't exist.

I always bring that up when religion issues arise. A man who believes ghosts or zombies exist is called crazy. A person who believes that their is a being (or non-being) in the heavens who created the universe and influences everything we do are called Theists.
Why not crazy?

[Mavorpen]

Faith is an assertion that a particular belief is true, meaningful and worthy of our trust and effort, no matter what. You do realize that "no matter what" includes when all of the evidence and logic contradicts the belief or idea correct?

The Catholic Church has had a LOT of practice at that.

Using their logic, touching little boys is okay because they had faith that the boys enjoyed it.

[Vaklor]

wow, no reply in a whole 10 seconds. im shocked.

I thought I wouldn't see a more useless post than quoting oneself. I was wrong.

no more useless than the other posts in this thread