The Arizonan thread

by **Maryginia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:35 am

Well, I saw a thread about Californians so I thought I'd make one on Arizonans. Are your an Arizonan, have you ever/do you now live here, Were you born here, or have you visited even, what did you think of it/do you think of it? For me I live here, I was born in Maryland Lived here since I was 18 months old, Politically It's bad, Where I am geographically it can get up into the high hundred teens in the summer, A dry heat is like a furnace,so everyone knows, I'm lucky to b in one of the good high schools, and for our three main University's we have Arizona state, which most regard as a horrible school,with booze,drugs,and sluts then you have University of Arizona which is considered a ,uch better school, and they have a very good med school there, and then you have Norther Arizona University, somewhere between the two, but with more weed, Although they do have a very good Athletic training and a very good Criminology programs there.

by **Ifreann** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:42 am

Is everywhere going to get a thread?

by **Ashmoria** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:47 am

do y'all ever think that you have maybe allowed a few too many anglo snowbirds to move in permanently? that "old angry white man" demographic has really screwed up your politics.

by **Maryginia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:53 am

Ashmoria wrote:do y'all ever think that you have maybe allowed a few too many anglo snowbirds to move in permanently? that "old angry white man" demographic has really screwed up your politics.

Personally, I do think that actually, that is part of the reason,for the bad politics, others at least where I am in Arizona probably not, due to part of them being the permanent snowbirds or kids of them.

by **Ashmoria** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:56 am

Maryginia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:do y'all ever think that you have maybe allowed a few too many anglo snowbirds to move in permanently? that "old angry white man" demographic has really screwed up your politics.

Personally, I do think that actually, that is part of the reason,for the bad politics, others at least where I am in Arizona probably not, due to part of them being the permanent snowbirds or kids of them.

what part of az do you live in?

are y'all gonna get a democrat to replace jon kyl?

by **Maryginia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:58 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Maryginia wrote:Personally, I do think that actually, that is part of the reason,for the bad politics, others at least where I am in Arizona probably not, due to part of them being the permanent snowbirds or kids of them.

what part of az do you live in?

are y'all gonna get a democrat to replace jon kyl?

Phoenix Metro area, Which means the area around Phoenix, as for the senator, It doesn't look like it right now.

by **Ashmoria** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:00 am

Maryginia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
what part of az do you live in?

are y'all gonna get a democrat to replace jon kyl?

Phoenix Metro area, Which means the area around Phoenix, as for the senator, It doesn't look like it right now.

i would say "well at least it cant be a worse guy than kyl" but it is arizona...

by **Bleckonia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:01 am

I'm from Scottsdale.

by **Ionian Knights** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:01 am

I just got back from a trip to Arizona. I loved it, even though the heat SUCKED!

Happy 100th btw...

by **Riffasia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:01 am

Ashmoria wrote:that "old angry white man" demographic has really screwed up your politics.

The "old angry white man" shtick is more propaganda than fact. The national media purposely confuse the issues Arizona faces. A large percentage of the population is Hispanic, and many who immigrated legally want to see the same standards upheld, but they are portrayed only as "white racists who want to keep the brown man down" by media. On and on it goes.

by **Maryginia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:04 am

Riffasia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:that "old angry white man" demographic has really screwed up your politics.

The "old angry white man" shtick is more propaganda than fact. The national media purposely confuse the issues Arizona faces. A large percentage of the population is Hispanic, and many who immigrated legally want to see the same standards upheld, but they are portrayed only as "white racists who want to keep the brown man down" by media. On and on it goes.

In some parts of the state such as the Tuscon area, yes that is the case it is just propaganda, up near where I am it's not all propaganda.

by **Ashmoria** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:05 am

Riffasia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:that "old angry white man" demographic has really screwed up your politics.

The "old angry white man" shtick is more propaganda than fact. The national media purposely confuse the issues Arizona faces. A large percentage of the population is Hispanic, and many who immigrated legally want to see the same standards upheld, but they are portrayed only as "white racists who want to keep the brown man down" by media. On and on it goes.

uhhuh

if it were only the immigration law you might have a point.

by **Monkey Islands** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:15 am

I live in rural Arizona and, here, the occasional retired snowbird is the only ray of political hope. The redneck/cowboy/don't need no damn government shtick is so thick here you can't slice it with a hunting knife. I understand the free-market theory, but all I see are a lot of beer-drinking, gun collecting fools living off the dole with no regard for education and blaming other people for all their problems. I happen to work in retail and the first of very month when the government checks comes out we are absolutely slammed. But don't let anyone know you're a Democrat or you'll end up like Gabrielle Giffords. Other than politically, it's a beautiful state. A great place to spend you life just wandering around exploring...

by **Wamitoria** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:39 am

Riffasia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:that "old angry white man" demographic has really screwed up your politics.

The "old angry white man" shtick is more propaganda than fact. The national media purposely confuse the issues Arizona faces. A large percentage of the population is Hispanic, and many who immigrated legally want to see the same standards upheld, but they are portrayed only as "white racists who want to keep the brown man down" by media. On and on it goes.

Dude, you're government is trying to ban trolling on the internet.

I half expect Brewer to make a speech about the "series of tubes" that is the interwebs.

by **Horsefish** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:01 am

Maryginia wrote: which most regard as a horrible school,with booze,drugs,and sluts

Sounds like a good school, where do I sign up?

by **Maryginia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:10 am

Horsefish wrote:
Maryginia wrote: which most regard as a horrible school,with booze,drugs,and sluts

Sounds like a good school, where do I sign up?

Believe me You don't want to go there, You only need a 2.5 GPA to get accepted, and you usually only go there if you can't get in anywhere else.

by **Malgrave** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:27 am

Anyone willing to state they come from Arizona? :unsure:

by **Wamitoria** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:29 am

Maryginia wrote:
Horsefish wrote:
Sounds like a good school, where do I sign up?

Believe me You don't want to go there, You only need a 2.5 GPA to get accepted, and you usually only go there if you can't get in anywhere else.

Every state has those kinds of schools.

by **Naraubia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:11 pm

Well I have been to Arizona a few times before and it seems like a pretty nice state. I have always wanted to see the Grand Canyon among other spectacular sights in Arizona. Sure it gets hotter there than Texas but at least it is a dry heat unlike here so I guess that is a plus. I also like their anti-illegal immigrant policies.

by **The Pretend Pub** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:15 pm

Naraubia wrote:I also like their anti-illegal immigrant policies.

So you hate the principles of freedom and liberty this country was founded on?

by **Mavorpen** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:18 pm

Ifreann wrote:Is everywhere going to get a thread?

Someone make a Mount Olympus thread where we can discuss the lives of the gods on Olympus.

by **Naraubia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:20 pm

The Pretend Pub wrote:
Naraubia wrote:I also like their anti-illegal immigrant policies.

So you hate the principles of freedom and liberty this country was founded on?

I love them. I just think they should only apply to citizens and legal immigrants who earned it.

by **Wamitoria** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:21 pm

Naraubia wrote:
The Pretend Pub wrote:
So you hate the principles of freedom and liberty this country was founded on?

I love them. I just think they should only apply to citizens and legal immigrants. People who earned it.

"Earned it." This coming from someone who was granted citizenship at birth.

by **Naraubia** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:22 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
Naraubia wrote:
I love them. I just think they should only apply to citizens and legal immigrants. People who earned it.

"Earned it." This coming from someone who was granted citizenship at birth.

And also from my great grandparents who entered this country LEGALLY from Mexico.

by **The Pretend Pub** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:23 pm

Naraubia wrote:
The Pretend Pub wrote:
So you hate the principles of freedom and liberty this country was founded on?

I love them.

Obviously not.

I just think they should only apply to citizens and legal immigrants. People who earned it.

Border controls and immigration restrictions of any sort are an absolute betrayal of the principles of the Revolution. The Founders recognized that liberty was a universal entitlement not contingent upon being from the right side of an arbitrary and morally meaningless line on a map.

So no, you apparently are not a fan of the principles upon which this country was founded.

This is why I'm a liberal--because liberals, unlike conservatives, don't hate America.

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