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Your opinion on homosexuality?

Homosexuality is wrong. Leviticus
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11%
Gays shouldnt be able to be together
4
1%
Gays should be able to be togther but not get married
42
9%
Homosexuals have every right to be together
304
65%
I am gay
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14%
 
Total votes : 471

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:39 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Condunum wrote:Not true. Anti-Theists are anti-god. Atheists simply don't have a belief in god.

Thats agnostics who dont beleive in god, while atheists are anti religion.


There's this thing called Google.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Djentmark » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:40 am

Divair wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:Thats agnostics who dont beleive in god, while atheists are anti religion.

FFS. Do we have to go over this AGAIN?
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You could bust out that chart 100 times a day and they still won't get it.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:40 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
I know people who name their plants who AREN'T hippies. I know people who wear sandals during winter and who AREN'T hippies. What's your point?

I cant remember how this converation started but i dont get on with hippies. Oh yh i remember how it started. Hippies do stop freedom of speech.


No they don't. Hippies RELY on freedom of speech. They actually SUPPORT freedom of speech. What they generally fight for is peace and the end of hate speech in general.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:41 am

Divair wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:Thats agnostics who dont beleive in god, while atheists are anti religion.

FFS. Do we have to go over this AGAIN?
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Very interesting my teacher told me otherwise.
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Postby Djentmark » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:41 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Divair wrote:FFS. Do we have to go over this AGAIN?
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Very interesting my teacher told me otherwise.

Blind faith. interesting. And you're not religious?
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Postby Divair » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:41 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Divair wrote:FFS. Do we have to go over this AGAIN?
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Very interesting my teacher told me otherwise.

Your teacher is wrong.

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Postby Salandriagado » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:42 am

Venolia wrote:
Tigeria wrote:And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the Lord your God. After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the Lord your God. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the Lord. None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord. The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness. The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness. Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time. Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness. Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her. And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the Lord your God. (Leviticus 18:1-30 KJV)

This is your leviticus ch 18 verses 1-30

I see no such evidence of any condemnation of gays, either way, God has an opinion too, do stop taking YOUR opinion and saying its GOD'S opinion.

If anyone sees such evidence please do enlighten everyone on where you found this...


I bolded it for you and made it a bit bigger in size.



Damn shame that isn't what it says, isn't it. The phrase is "ואת זכר לא תשכב משכבי אשה תועבה הִוא" (Pronunciation [modern]: "V’et-zachar lo tishkav mishk’vei ishah to’evah hu".

Literally, this means "And with a male thou shalt not lie down in the bed of a woman, it is to'evah ". I have left "to'evah" in the translated form as translating it into English is tricky. It is commonly translated as "abomination" but could also mean anything from "dirty [in the physical sense]" to "deserving of death".

"The bed of a woman" refers to the bed in which a woman menstruates, a bed which was considered to be(for lack of a better word) 'sacred', with access to men being culturally restricted, even in the case of the woman's husband.

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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:42 am

Juristonia wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:well atheists are generaly anti religion and usely they are very offensive and rude towards religous folk.


Centuries of religious persecution tend to make people grumpy.

If u have a problem with organised religon then make that clear not just blame religon in general.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:42 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Divair wrote:FFS. Do we have to go over this AGAIN?
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Very interesting my teacher told me otherwise.


I see no reason why we should even believe your teacher told you this. Bad cover story is bad.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:42 am

Djentmark wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:Very interesting my teacher told me otherwise.

Blind faith. interesting. And you're not religious?

Indeed i am not.
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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:43 am

Divair wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:Very interesting my teacher told me otherwise.

Your teacher is wrong.

I quess so.
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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:43 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:Very interesting my teacher told me otherwise.


I see no reason why we should even believe your teacher told you this. Bad cover story is bad.

But my teacher did.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:43 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
I know people who name their plants who AREN'T hippies. I know people who wear sandals during winter and who AREN'T hippies. What's your point?

I cant remember how this converation started but i dont get on with hippies. Oh yh i remember how it started. Hippies do stop freedom of speech.

That's blatantly false.

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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:I cant remember how this converation started but i dont get on with hippies. Oh yh i remember how it started. Hippies do stop freedom of speech.

That's blatantly false.

It isnt, its ok if a hippie attacks someone in the street while calling them a nazi because they vote for a slightly right wing party. but as soon as someone says hippies are bad people, thats hate speech.
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Postby Divair » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:46 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's blatantly false.

It isnt, its ok if a hippie attacks someone in the street while calling them a nazi because they vote for a slightly right wing party. but as soon as someone says hippies are bad people, thats hate speech.

What the hell are you talking about? If anyone attacks anyone that is a crime and they get sent to court.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:46 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That's blatantly false.

It isnt, its ok if a hippie attacks someone in the street while calling them a nazi because they vote for a slightly right wing party. but as soon as someone says hippies are bad people, thats hate speech.


Except this doesn't happen. GG.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:47 am

Divair wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:It isnt, its ok if a hippie attacks someone in the street while calling them a nazi because they vote for a slightly right wing party. but as soon as someone says hippies are bad people, thats hate speech.

What the hell are you talking about? If anyone attacks anyone that is a crime and they get sent to court.

Well calling people nazis and saying people are communists and discriminating against them is fine in this country. but saying a few bad things against travelers or hippies is completly un acceptable.
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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:48 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:It isnt, its ok if a hippie attacks someone in the street while calling them a nazi because they vote for a slightly right wing party. but as soon as someone says hippies are bad people, thats hate speech.


Except this doesn't happen. GG.

I does it happens all the time.
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Postby Batuni » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:49 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Djentmark wrote:Blind faith. interesting. And you're not religious?

Indeed i am not.


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Postby Divair » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:49 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Divair wrote:What the hell are you talking about? If anyone attacks anyone that is a crime and they get sent to court.

Well calling people nazis and saying people are communists and discriminating against them is fine in this country. but saying a few bad things against travelers or hippies is completly un acceptable.

This doesn't happen. Where the fuck are you getting this crap from?

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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:50 am

Batuni wrote:
Holy Windmill Empire wrote:Indeed i am not.


So, what label would you use to describe yourself?

I would say im christian, but i dont believe in the faith.
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Postby Djentmark » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:50 am

this topic was about gay marriage
then it was about religion
now it's about hippies
We believe - so we're misled
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Postby Holy Windmill Empire » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:50 am

Djentmark wrote:this topic was about gay marriage
then it was about religion
now it's about hippies

Ur right we have gone of topic.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:50 am

Holy Windmill Empire wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Except this doesn't happen. GG.

I does it happens all the time.


[citation needed]
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby The Kingdom of Alraisan » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:50 am

Most educated scholars will agree that the English Bible is sadly mis-interpreted. The statements seemingly against homosexuality are a classic example of such. The primary sexual sin that is railed against is nothing more than promiscuity and use of whores, no matter the sex.

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