Your opinion on homosexuality?

[Condunum]

But you don't know God didn't give Moses oral.

'Oral' as in oral sex?

Exactly.

[Venolia]

I never said it was fact.

You're statement was "Moses wrote it, he was commanded to do so by God". Not "some ignorant people used to say that Moses wrote it"; just "Moses wrote it" as if it were like "Stephen King wrote The Stand" or "Shelby Foote wrote a multi-volume Civil War history."

O.K., you want to get technical?

That is a fact, whether it is true, or not; you know why? Because a fact is something that can be proven or disproven.

I believe that can be either proven or disproven. Therefore, you are wrong.

[Farnhamia]

Leviticus 18:22 read it

Yahweh doesn't exist, so what do I care what someone said he said 3,000 years ago.

[Salandriagado]

You're statement was "Moses wrote it, he was commanded to do so by God". Not "some ignorant people used to say that Moses wrote it"; just "Moses wrote it" as if it were like "Stephen King wrote The Stand" or "Shelby Foote wrote a multi-volume Civil War history."

O.K., you want to get technical?

That is a fact, whether it is true, or not; you know why? Because a fact is something that can be proven or disproven.

I believe that can be either proven or disproven. Therefore, you are wrong.

Erm, you've just exactly reversed your position.

[Condunum]

Leviticus 18:22 read it

Yahweh doesn't exist, so what do I care what someone said he said 3,000 years ago.

But... Baby Jesus!

[Venolia]

O.K., you want to get technical?

That is a fact, whether it is true, or not; you know why? Because a fact is something that can be proven or disproven.

I believe that can be either proven or disproven. Therefore, you are wrong.

Erm, you've just exactly reversed your position.

Originally, I wasn't disputing if it was a fact or not. But, now I am, and it is a fact.

I didn't reverse it, as I was not claiming it to be an opinion.

[Hittanryan]

Leviticus 18:22 read it

Yahweh doesn't exist, so what do I care what someone said he said 3,000 years ago.

Because Reagan, apparently *nods*

[Djentmark]

Are we really arguing about this? What is this? 1950?

Gay marriage is totally legal in most of Northern and Western Europe.
The only consequence of this that has been observed is gay people getting married. Grow the fuck up.

[Venolia]

'Oral' as in oral sex?

Exactly.

There is no way for anyone to know, as of now; I would have to agree with your original statement, "But you don't know God didn't give Moses oral."

[Condunum]

Are we really arguing about this? What is this? 1950?

Gay marriage is totally legal in most of Northern and Western Europe.
The only consequence of this that has been observed is gay people getting married. Grow the fuck up.

The only reason this is here is because USSR can't get it through his ignorant skull that people deserve equal rights.

[Condunum]

Exactly.

There is no way for anyone to know, as of now; I would have to agree with your original statement, "But you don't know God didn't give Moses oral."

There you go. Course, no one does, so if you believe in him, you'd probably have to assume a neutral stance.

[Yes Im Biop]

Gay people should have all the same rights as straight people.

Marriage is not for the state to decide. It's for the church.

People getting married by a Judge would argue

[Ifreann]

Leviticus 18:22 read it

Yahweh doesn't exist, so what do I care what someone said he said 3,000 years ago.

He said your mamma is so fat, if he turned her to salt it wouldn't be a pillar, it'd be a mountain. Don't take that lying down, Farn, get all up in his grill.

[Holy Windmill Empire]

There is no way for anyone to know, as of now; I would have to agree with your original statement, "But you don't know God didn't give Moses oral."

There you go. Course, no one does, so if you believe in him, you'd probably have to assume a neutral stance.

God and moses are not gay. Anyway I dont mind gays as long as they arnt camp, i hate camp people.

[Condunum]

There you go. Course, no one does, so if you believe in him, you'd probably have to assume a neutral stance.

God and moses are not gay. Anyway I dont mind gays as long as they arnt camp, i hate camp people.

In Abrahamic faith, God has no gender. Moses would not need to be gay.

And camp? What?

[Alikhaa]

My opinion on homosexuality is not completely solidified because I don't have every single fact available on the subject.

However, the way I see it, there is enough doubt about whether or not God prohibited it that it is safer to stay far away from it. After all, the only force towards it is lust, which can be easily ignored by one's more advanced consciousness, relative to our "old brain", the more instinctual animal one, which generally defines our baser drives.

I know full well that I could be gay (or more accurately, lesbian) and I would be plenty comfortable in a relationship with a woman, since I tend to be fairly manly. I could certainly psychologically evoke feelings of lust for either sex. But I have chosen to be straight and spend my time with one partner because that's the most efficient way to go about life. For one matter, it streamlines genetic reproduction. For another, it encourages relatively clean sexual intimacy.

And lastly, I see that the direction of society in embracing public homosexuality is incorrect. It glorifies lust and the baser drives, prioritizing our old brain over our more evolved and advanced intellect, and this can leak through to other facets of society. It generally results in promiscuity, which looks to spread sexual diseases. It makes friend relationships between same-sex people charged with sexual tension, which makes them at times awkward and less close than they could be otherwise. It keeps certain people from putting their genes in the gene pool when maybe they might be very intelligent or strong and the future would benefit from their reproduction.

I'm not going to tackle the reproduction issue too much, though, because the world is overpopulated already.

This is not to say that all gay or lesbian people are motivated solely by base drives, or promiscuous. But that can be stated as the general fact, applying to the community, and not to the individual.

Humans are social animals, and the community is highly important. We should always try to operate with the community in mind, and while preserving the rights of the individual to benefit the community in any way they please, prohibit the right of the individual to harm the community either socially or physically.

My opinion as of now (it could be swayed by logical arguments, but not emotional ones) is that homosexuality is psychological. This doesn't mean that it has been chosen, just as bipolar disorder isn't a choice - and it does not imply that sexual orientation can be cured by electro-therapy.

[Chinese Regions]

God and moses are not gay. Anyway I dont mind gays as long as they arnt camp, i hate camp people.

In Abrahamic faith, God has no gender. Moses would not need to be gay.

And camp? What?

Camp is slang for flamboyant, somewhat effeminate.

[Holy Windmill Empire]

God and moses are not gay. Anyway I dont mind gays as long as they arnt camp, i hate camp people.

In Abrahamic faith, God has no gender. Moses would not need to be gay.

And camp? What?

Camp meaning men who act like girls. I never get on with them. And just like I said God and Moses are not gay, so therefore god and moses didnt have sex or give each other oral.

[Mavorpen]

Thats right, homosexuality, a heavily debated topic. What do you think about homosexuality NSG? Me? Well i belive that gays have every right to be together without the government saying what they can and cannot do in the bedroom, however for marrige, the point of marrige is to start a family and well unless they adopt which isnt a true family gays cant start a family together so i think they can be together but shouldnt be able to get married. You NSG?

That's not the point of marriage, never has been.

[Condunum]

In Abrahamic faith, God has no gender. Moses would not need to be gay.

And camp? What?

Camp meaning men who act like girls. I never get on with them. And just like I said God and Moses are not gay, so therefore god and moses didnt have sex or give each other oral.

You missed my point. Because God is gender neutral, Moses would not have to be gay to get head from him. Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that, if God and Moses existed, God could have given Moses oral.

And why is effeminacy bad?

[Episarta]

Again with this topic? Can't we at least have a couple weeks before it is brought up again? We are just going to bend this topic over the counter and rape it for all it has, aren't we?

[Djentmark]

Check this out. Take all of the religious people who want to impose their beliefs on everybody else, and put them in the dark ages where they belong. Now everybody is happy.

[Tigeria]

And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the Lord your God. After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the Lord your God. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the Lord. None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord. The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness. The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for she is thy mother's near kinswoman. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness. Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness. Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time. Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness. Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her. And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the Lord your God. (Leviticus 18:1-30 KJV)

This is your leviticus ch 18 verses 1-30

I see no such evidence of any condemnation of gays, either way, God has an opinion too, do stop taking YOUR opinion and saying its GOD'S opinion.

If anyone sees such evidence please do enlighten everyone on where you found this...

[Farnhamia]

Yahweh doesn't exist, so what do I care what someone said he said 3,000 years ago.

He said your mamma is so fat, if he turned her to salt it wouldn't be a pillar, it'd be a mountain. Don't take that lying down, Farn, get all up in his grill.

I wouldn't waste my time on someone so inconsequential.

[Cromarty]

For you bible believers, do you stone your children to death when they misbehave? If not, why not? Before you bring up jesus dying for our sins, jesus specifically scolded people for not following that rule in particular. So do tell.

Because almost all instances in which stoning is referred to, beyond the 'let he who is without sin' thing, is in the Old Testament... which is largely irrelevant to the Christian faith.

Also source for 'jesus specifically scolded people for not following that rule in particular.' please.