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Which would be your choice?

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The United Soviet Socialist Republic
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McCain or Obama?

Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:10 am

The 2008 election is over, and the next election is coming up, but i thought it would be fun to look back and see if (knowing what he would do) the NS population would still think Obama was the better candidate. So NSG which one did (do) you like better, Obama, or McCain? I was and still am a supporter of the McCain Palin 08 campaign, Palin was well terrible but i liked McCain, he had good ideas for the economy and had a sensible system planned, plus with him america wouldnt have obamacare and that would be a plus. Which campaign did (do) YOU support NSG?
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Postby Flankfurt am Mane » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:11 am

I still like Obama.
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Postby Meowfoundland » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:13 am

Obama is better than possible Palin, any day.
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Postby Yahkima » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:14 am

It's not that Obama is so great, it was that Palin was so very stupid.

EDIT: Still is, as far as I know.
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Postby Glasgia » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:15 am

But you're a socialist! Surely you support Obamacare then?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:15 am

Voting McCain could cause a universe destroying time paradox.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:16 am

Glasgia wrote:But you're a socialist! Surely you support Obamacare then?

Obama for me

Actually i am only economicly sociallist, on social issues i am mostly conservative.
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Postby Ertae » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:17 am

Really really don't like Obama's administration, for all its lack of good change, but McCain would've been worse. And Palin in a seat of potential power? God help us all.

If she had become President, we would've had to nuke the [inauguration] site from orbit. It would've been the only way to be sure.

edit: my choice would be "none of the above", or the write-in "Engelbert Humperdinck"
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Postby Forsher » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:18 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:The 2008 election is over, and the next election is coming up, but i thought it would be fun to look back and see if (knowing what he would do) the NS population would still think Obama was the better candidate. So NSG which one did (do) you like better, Obama, or McCain? I was and still am a supporter of the McCain Palin 08 campaign, Palin was well terrible but i liked McCain, he had good ideas for the economy and had a sensible system planned, plus with him america wouldnt have obamacare and that would be a plus. Which campaign did (do) YOU support NSG?


I have to say Obama. He's thr right kind of idiot, from the party that didn't bring you Bush.
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:19 am

I hate Obama with a passion, but I would not vote for McCain. I abstain.

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Postby Jafas United » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:21 am

Only if McCain had chosen a better running mate...

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Postby Redwardia » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:25 am

Could someone American please explain to me the huge problem that many people over there have with Obamacare?
It seems so odd - it's nowhere near as comprehensive as a national health service, yet it's still being reviled as an evil socialist agenda. Hardly!
Plus, many Americans have used services such as Medicare and Medicaid and yet still claim to not rely on government help.
It seems that if you give anything a socialist tag over there, it's bound to fail.
I just want one good reason why offering free treatment to those in most need (but who may not be able to pay) is such a bad thing.

I guess you can tell I'm for Obama (even though he's just a watered-down Republican)

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:27 am

Redwardia wrote:Could someone American please explain to me the huge problem that many people over there have with Obamacare?
It seems so odd - it's nowhere near as comprehensive as a national health service, yet it's still being reviled as an evil socialist agenda. Hardly!
Plus, many Americans have used services such as Medicare and Medicaid and yet still claim to not rely on government help.
It seems that if you give anything a socialist tag over there, it's bound to fail.
I just want one good reason why offering free treatment to those in most need (but who may not be able to pay) is such a bad thing.

I guess you can tell I'm for Obama (even though he's just a watered-down Republican)

Im not american but i can still give reasons why obamacare is bad. The main reason being is because is goes against the american constitution by forcing all americans to buy insurance, is that good? And frankly it is just a skeme to make the rich insurance companies richer by making all 300 million americans buy their insurance. I wouldnt want a health care system designed to make the insurance companies richer.
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Postby Divair » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:28 am

Redwardia wrote:Could someone American please explain to me the huge problem that many people over there have with Obamacare?
It seems so odd - it's nowhere near as comprehensive as a national health service, yet it's still being reviled as an evil socialist agenda. Hardly!
Plus, many Americans have used services such as Medicare and Medicaid and yet still claim to not rely on government help.
It seems that if you give anything a socialist tag over there, it's bound to fail.
I just want one good reason why offering free treatment to those in most need (but who may not be able to pay) is such a bad thing.

I guess you can tell I'm for Obama (even though he's just a watered-down Republican)

The problem with Obamacare is pork spending, not Obamacare itself.


@OP: Obama. McCain is just... Ugh.

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Postby Forster Keys » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:30 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:The 2008 election is over, and the next election is coming up, but i thought it would be fun to look back and see if (knowing what he would do) the NS population would still think Obama was the better candidate. So NSG which one did (do) you like better, Obama, or McCain? I was and still am a supporter of the McCain Palin 08 campaign, Palin was well terrible but i liked McCain, he had good ideas for the economy and had a sensible system planned, plus with him america wouldnt have obamacare and that would be a plus. Which campaign did (do) YOU support NSG?


You are not a socialist.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:31 am

Forster Keys wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:The 2008 election is over, and the next election is coming up, but i thought it would be fun to look back and see if (knowing what he would do) the NS population would still think Obama was the better candidate. So NSG which one did (do) you like better, Obama, or McCain? I was and still am a supporter of the McCain Palin 08 campaign, Palin was well terrible but i liked McCain, he had good ideas for the economy and had a sensible system planned, plus with him america wouldnt have obamacare and that would be a plus. Which campaign did (do) YOU support NSG?


You are not a socialist.

That has got to be the most irrelevent statement i have ever heard, and i have heard Palins speeches. What does that have to do with anything?
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:34 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
You are not a socialist.

That has got to be the most irrelevent statement i have ever heard, and i have heard Palins speeches. What does that have to do with anything?


You haven't heard many statements then? I'm just saying it's kind of funny you saying things like that, and then having the whole nation name flag thing going with Comrade Lenin. You're a different kind of Red I think.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:35 am

Forster Keys wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:That has got to be the most irrelevent statement i have ever heard, and i have heard Palins speeches. What does that have to do with anything?


You haven't heard many statements then? I'm just saying it's kind of funny you saying things like that, and then having the whole nation name flag thing going with Comrade Lenin. You're a different kind of Red I think.

I think i have said this before. I am an economic socialist/communist while socially i am a conservative.
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Postby Divair » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:36 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
You haven't heard many statements then? I'm just saying it's kind of funny you saying things like that, and then having the whole nation name flag thing going with Comrade Lenin. You're a different kind of Red I think.

I think i have said this before. I am an economic socialist/communist while socially i am a conservative.

A socially conservative socialist?

My mind has been blown.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:37 am

Yahkima wrote:It's not that Obama is so great, it was that Palin was so very stupid.

EDIT: Still is, as far as I know.


isnt it a bit silly to compare the presidential candidate to the other side's vicepresidential candidate? except for having to hear her awful voice more often palin would be mostly invisible just as joe biden is--more so since she knows nothing.

knowing what we know now i sure as hell wouldnt want the newly horrifying john mccain to be president.
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Postby Forster Keys » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:37 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
You haven't heard many statements then? I'm just saying it's kind of funny you saying things like that, and then having the whole nation name flag thing going with Comrade Lenin. You're a different kind of Red I think.

I think i have said this before. I am an economic socialist/communist while socially i am a conservative.


Check this out then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism
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Postby Taemint Island » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:37 am

Obama... I think. I'm not sure about politics nowadays.

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Postby Kleomentia » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:37 am

Neither.
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Postby Chyeknovostan Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:39 am

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:The 2008 election is over, and the next election is coming up, but i thought it would be fun to look back and see if (knowing what he would do) the NS population would still think Obama was the better candidate. So NSG which one did (do) you like better, Obama, or McCain? I was and still am a supporter of the McCain Palin 08 campaign, Palin was well terrible but i liked McCain, he had good ideas for the economy and had a sensible system planned, plus with him america wouldnt have obamacare and that would be a plus. Which campaign did (do) YOU support NSG?


I tend not to bother with American politics, but looking at McCain and Obama, I'd agree with some of you for Obama however the reason why might be disturbing.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:40 am

Forster Keys wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I think i have said this before. I am an economic socialist/communist while socially i am a conservative.


Check this out then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism

Interesting article.
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