Save Steve's Place

[Lackadaisical2]

Not that it has come to this yet but here is a list of 198 methods of non violent action that have been used to get the bad people to stop doing bad things. Just in case you ever decide you want to use them

The list comes from here : http://www.peacemagazine.org/198.htm




"181. Reverse strike", sounds like a fucking WWE move, but what is it exactly??

I think it involves storming the work place and sitting on the factory floor getting in the way of work.

I thought that would be covered under "sit in" which is also on the list. Maybe the difference is they make a picket line and try to stop the employees form even getting in to work?

I thought sit in was sitting in the customer area so the company could not do business.

You're probably right.

[Natapoc]

Hey, I am an investor in Cape Alumina, don't stand in the way of progress.

I would suggest selling your stock soon then. Once this gets out to enough people the company will be faced with all sorts of trouble.

not a chance I am hiring goons to take care of you hippies.

Goons? How nice of you to take care of the hippies. Hippies need lots of love and care. Who are these goonie people?

Anyway all good your loss if you really do have any money in that company.

[Daistallia 2104]

"181. Reverse strike", sounds like a fucking WWE move, but what is it exactly??

I think it involves storming the work place and sitting on the factory floor getting in the way of work.

I thought that would be covered under "sit in" which is also on the list. Maybe the difference is they make a picket line and try to stop the employees form even getting in to work?

I thought sit in was sitting in the customer area so the company could not do business.

You're probably right.

Nope. A reverse strike is going to work when you're told not to. An example might be if California state employees furloughed without pay by Arnold were to show up at their workplaces and try to do
their normal work.

[Vetalia]

Nope. A reverse strike is going to work when you're told not to. An example might be if California state employees furloughed without pay by Arnold were to show up at their workplaces and try to do their normal work.

So what's to stop me or any other aspiring capitalist from taking advantage of that to mine more aluminum without paying the miners? I mean, showing up to work for no pay seems more like a dream come true than an inconvenience.

[New Kereptica]

Nope. A reverse strike is going to work when you're told not to. An example might be if California state employees furloughed without pay by Arnold were to show up at their workplaces and try to do their normal work.

So what's to stop me or any other aspiring capitalist from taking advantage of that to mine more aluminum without paying the miners? I mean, showing up to work for no pay seems more like a dream come true than an inconvenience.

The problem, I assume, would be getting people to reverse strike in the first place.

Also, I suspect Diastallia was joking.

[Vetalia]

The problem, I assume, would be getting people to reverse strike in the first place.

Also, I suspect Diastallia was joking.

Actually, if your company is broke people showing up to work and wasting company money is a gigantic pain in the ass for management...

[Daistallia 2104]

Nope. A reverse strike is going to work when you're told not to. An example might be if California state employees furloughed without pay by Arnold were to show up at their workplaces and try to do their normal work.

So what's to stop me or any other aspiring capitalist from taking advantage of that to mine more aluminum without paying the miners? I mean, showing up to work for no pay seems more like a dream come true than an inconvenience.

For one thing, it's generally done in the public sector, not private industry. And it's generally a symbolic gesture to draw attention. (Note also that it can also refer to carrying out public works unpaid in order to draw attention to a need.)

Edit: and as far as being an inconvenience, just consider how much negative media attention a reverse strike during a lockout would bring.

[New Kereptica]

The problem, I assume, would be getting people to reverse strike in the first place.

Also, I suspect Diastallia was joking.

Actually, if your company is broke people showing up to work and wasting company money is a gigantic pain in the ass for management...

I didn't think of that. Though, that could be construed as vandalism, I think.

And from Diastallia's post, I see I am wrong.

[Daistallia 2104]

Nope. A reverse strike is going to work when you're told not to. An example might be if California state employees furloughed without pay by Arnold were to show up at their workplaces and try to do their normal work.

So what's to stop me or any other aspiring capitalist from taking advantage of that to mine more aluminum without paying the miners? I mean, showing up to work for no pay seems more like a dream come true than an inconvenience.

The problem, I assume, would be getting people to reverse strike in the first place.

Also, I suspect Diastallia was joking.

Diastallia may have been but I am not. The California example was a real suggestion. Here's another example: http://articles.latimes.com/1988-11-29/ ... nch-market

Actually, if your company is broke people showing up to work and wasting company money is a gigantic pain in the ass for management...

Indeed.

[Natapoc]

I did not intend for that list to become the subject of conversation. It is just a grouping of non violent actions some of which may be useful for any of you who want to stop this horrible mining operation that will irreparably destroy wetlands.

[Tekania]

How can a Sting Ray smoke underwater?

someone lit his cigar

It must be an electronic cigar, yees.

And honestly, if I was a miner I sure as hell wouldn't want to take my chances wandering afoot in a stretch of Australian wilderness that was specifically known to be a sanctuary established by Steve Irwin. I mean, it's mathematics at work here. Take the inherent lethality of native Australian wildlife, then multiply it by Irwin's habit of taking them head on... the place probably makes Jurassic Park look like a petting zoo.

Ay, nothin' but a fuw Croc's iz awl!... Well, ahn occationawl python... Nothin' awl that poisonous... Just got ta jump ahn their back iz awl.... Crikey! I used ta cut grahs with them in tha pen...

[Daistallia 2104]

I did not intend for that list to become the subject of conversation. It is just a grouping of non violent actions some of which may be useful for any of you who want to stop this horrible mining operation that will irreparably destroy wetlands.

Welcome to NSG, where a recent discussion on Japanese candy morphed into one on US politics (albeit short).

[Daistallia 2104]

I did not intend for that list to become the subject of conversation. It is just a grouping of non violent actions some of which may be useful for any of you who want to stop this horrible mining operation that will irreparably destroy wetlands.

Welcome to NSG, where a recent discussion on Japanese candy morphed into one on US politics (albeit short).

[RightWingChristians]

Nonviolent Air Raid?



Wth is that?

Is that where you drop water balloons on unsuspecting miners?

[Daistallia 2104]

Nonviolent Air Raid?



Wth is that?

Is that where you drop water balloons on unsuspecting miners?

More a military-political thing rather than economic, although it could work in the economic context I guess. Mostly it's psyop leafletings via air drop, like the various anti-Castro groups who drop leaflets over Cuba. Some other examples would be several US psyops in Vietnam such as dropping humanitarian aid and toys over areas around Hanoi and flying over suspected VC strongholds playing recordings of families pleading for fighters to surrender.

Having aircraft buzz a corporate HQ playing messages from worker's families might work in some instances, but I have serious doubts as to it's efficacy, and certainly my union couldn't afford such an extravagance.

[Wilgrove]

We could always go to the HQ, surround it with large speakers, and play "Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up" until they give up.

[Daistallia 2104]

We could always go to the HQ, surround it with large speakers, and play "Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up" until they give up.

Hehehe... I'll suggest that for the next demo. Considering what noise "violations" ("Noise ordinaces? We don' nee' no steenkin' noise ordinances here in Japan!") the uyoku, pols, and others get away with here, it should be perfectly fine.

We just have to find the right music...

[Wilgrove]

We could always go to the HQ, surround it with large speakers, and play "Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up" until they give up.

Hehehe... I'll suggest that for the next demo. Considering what noise "violations" ("Noise ordinaces? We don' nee' no steenkin' noise ordinances here in Japan!") the uyoku, pols, and others get away with here, it should be perfectly fine.

We just have to find the right music...

Hmm...who was that chick that they blame for breaking up The Beatles?

[New Kereptica]

We could always go to the HQ, surround it with large speakers, and play "Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up" until they give up.

Hehehe... I'll suggest that for the next demo. Considering what noise "violations" ("Noise ordinaces? We don' nee' no steenkin' noise ordinances here in Japan!") the uyoku, pols, and others get away with here, it should be perfectly fine.

We just have to find the right music...

Hmm...who was that chick that they blame for breaking up The Beatles?

Yoko Ono?

[Wilgrove]

We could always go to the HQ, surround it with large speakers, and play "Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up" until they give up.

Hehehe... I'll suggest that for the next demo. Considering what noise "violations" ("Noise ordinaces? We don' nee' no steenkin' noise ordinances here in Japan!") the uyoku, pols, and others get away with here, it should be perfectly fine.

We just have to find the right music...

Hmm...who was that chick that they blame for breaking up The Beatles?

Yoko Ono?

We could play her stuff. From what I hear, it's awful.

[Daistallia 2104]

We could always go to the HQ, surround it with large speakers, and play "Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up" until they give up.

Hehehe... I'll suggest that for the next demo. Considering what noise "violations" ("Noise ordinaces? We don' nee' no steenkin' noise ordinances here in Japan!") the uyoku, pols, and others get away with here, it should be perfectly fine.

We just have to find the right music...

Hmm...who was that chick that they blame for breaking up The Beatles?

Yoko Ono?

We could play her stuff. From what I hear, it's awful.

I did say music...

[Wilgrove]

I did say music...

Hey, play her stuff, you can be ruler of Australia!

[LOL ANARCHY NUBZ]

Makes me want to blow up the mining companies headquarters.

We think alike

[Non Aligned States]

"168. Nonviolent raids
169. Nonviolent air raids
170. Nonviolent invasion
171. Nonviolent interjection
172. Nonviolent obstruction
173. Nonviolent occupation"

these all sound illegal.

168 and 170 can be dealt with by non-violent dispersal of... oh, I don't know probably organophosphate compounds. Unfortunately for the protesters, the proper way of dealing with 169 is the deployment of airspace denial assets. I recommend Bofors 40mm. Naturally, there should be the typical warning signs of action taken against illicit entry into workplace premises.

[Natapoc]

"168. Nonviolent raids
169. Nonviolent air raids
170. Nonviolent invasion
171. Nonviolent interjection
172. Nonviolent obstruction
173. Nonviolent occupation"

these all sound illegal.

168 and 170 can be dealt with by non-violent dispersal of... oh, I don't know probably organophosphate compounds. Unfortunately for the protesters, the proper way of dealing with 169 is the deployment of airspace denial assets. I recommend Bofors 40mm.

Why so violent? Don't you know violence just causes more violence?