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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:52 am

Aelosia wrote:I got 19/20, where is my green card?

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:52 am

Martaz wrote:From when that ******* bastard atheist of Murray O'Hair sought to ban prayer in public schools the test result dropped

prayers help student to keep God on their side

about creationism: last time i checked the great majority of american believe in creationism...Why should teachers teach theory that the greater majority of american don't want their childrean to learn? or at least teach BOTH theory


Just because the majority is stupid (and the majority often IS) is no reason for us to teach our children greater stupidity. Apparently we are doing just fine without adding the stupidity of creationism to the mix. :roll:
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:52 am

Aelosia wrote:I got 19/20, where is my green card?


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Postby Neocaridia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:58 am

Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

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Postby Czardas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:59 am

Neocaridia wrote:
Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

Yes, the other one is DA TROOF. God created the universe in six minutes, seven hundred years ago, as everyone should know.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:01 am

Czardas wrote:
Neocaridia wrote:
Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

Yes, the other one is DA TROOF. God created the universe in six minutes, seven hundred years ago, as everyone should know.

Well...I actually did it in like 9, but, who's counting really? 8)

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Postby Czardas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:04 am

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Neocaridia wrote:
Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

Yes, the other one is DA TROOF. God created the universe in six minutes, seven hundred years ago, as everyone should know.

Well...I actually did it in like 9, but, who's counting really? 8)

Six, dammit. SIX. The bible doesn't lie.
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Postby Aelosia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:07 am

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Aelosia wrote:I got 19/20, where is my green card?


Do the MSNBC quiz, you get a certificate.


And do I do with that certificate? I got 95 %

I missed the form. I have never applied to be a citizen of the USA.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:08 am

Martaz wrote:From when that ******* bastard atheist of Murray O'Hair sought to ban prayer in public schools the test result dropped


I'd like to bet there was something of far greater educational significance that occured around the time of Murray O'Hair that had nothing to do with the sought out ban of prayer in schools that fucked with the educational system.

prayers help student to keep God on their side


I pray--I don't make a big deal out of it, I don't scream bloody murder and make a big scene--but I also know praying to God doesn't guarentee me a 100% in every class and on every test/quiz/worksheet/project ever.

If you actually read the Bible properly, unlike a great sum of Christians, you'd know God doesn't bless everyone equally. Certain talents are given to certain people to be used. Not everyone is athletic, or smart, and so on. We're not all going to be smart by praying to our God/god(s), or at least the God I know.

You can pray for a lot of things, but prayer =/= instant gratification, even when you're humbly praying for confidence or persistence.

Therefore, praying to God/god(s) =/= instant increase/decrease in academic performance(s).

about creationism: last time i checked the great majority of american believe in creationism...Why should teachers teach theory that the greater majority of american don't want their childrean to learn? or at least teach BOTH theory


If a school wants to/doesn't want to, that's the school's decision. I'm not a Creationist, I hate how Creationists think God has to be bound by magic and God's workings have to be beyond our observation/comprehension all the time. I embrace science, and study it, and use it, and accept the fact that God uses it to help us understand the world/universe around us.

I could get far deeper in, but that's not what I'm trying to say here.

I think at the end of the day, kids don't give a shit about evolution vs. creationism, or U.S. government, or science, history, geography, English, mathematics, etc. at all.

They want money, food, sleep, hair, sex, BFZ and GFZ!!11!!!, and music.

Horrid,

putrid,

disgusting,

modern,

music.
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Postby EVIL BEYOND COMPARE » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:09 am

first of all i would like to say that m grand mother has just become an american citizen i helped so it is not all that difficult. and secondly OKLAHOMA :palm: :palm:

those kids are all farm folk and stupid fat people don't expect any of them to know anyhing. those poor farmers will stay poor farmers.

i mean you should ask a state with a higher IQ like missouri or philidelphia but not stupid oklahoma.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:10 am

Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Neocaridia wrote:
Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

Yes, the other one is DA TROOF. God created the universe in six minutes, seven hundred years ago, as everyone should know.

Well...I actually did it in like 9, but, who's counting really? 8)

Six, dammit. SIX. The bible doesn't lie.

True, the Bible Doesnt lie, but those poor creatures I created, unfortunately, cannot be trusted with the interpretation of my book, :(

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Postby Rhodmhire » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:11 am

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Neocaridia wrote:
Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

Yes, the other one is DA TROOF. God created the universe in six minutes, seven hundred years ago, as everyone should know.

Well...I actually did it in like 9, but, who's counting really? 8)

Six, dammit. SIX. The bible doesn't lie.

True, the Bible Doesnt lie, but those poor creatures I created, unfortunately, cannot be trusted with the interpretation of my book, :(


Your book was okay, but the one by that Moozlim guy was far superior.

I guess it was just the timing, but hey, that's just me. They're both a great read.
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Postby EVIL BEYOND COMPARE » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:14 am

Rhodmhire wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Neocaridia wrote:
Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

Yes, the other one is DA TROOF. God created the universe in six minutes, seven hundred years ago, as everyone should know.

Well...I actually did it in like 9, but, who's counting really? 8)

Six, dammit. SIX. The bible doesn't lie.

True, the Bible Doesnt lie, but those poor creatures I created, unfortunately, cannot be trusted with the interpretation of my book, :(


Your book was okay, but the one by that Moozlim guy was far superior.

I guess it was just the timing, but hey, that's just me. They're both a great read.

:palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: God created the Earth in "six days" that is what the bible says but this was before time so God could've taken 6 billion years. after the big bang God might've taken a long time to make the earth

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Postby Czardas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:15 am

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:
Neocaridia wrote:
Martaz wrote:or at least teach BOTH theory

Only one is a theory.

Yes, the other one is DA TROOF. God created the universe in six minutes, seven hundred years ago, as everyone should know.

Well...I actually did it in like 9, but, who's counting really? 8)

Six, dammit. SIX. The bible doesn't lie.

True, the Bible Doesnt lie, but those poor creatures I created, unfortunately, cannot be trusted with the interpretation of my book, :(

See, aren't you glad you have people like me who actually know how to interpret it properly?
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:15 am

Any country that have a bigger millitary budget that their education budget, is on the road to social decline. However, I can't believe these kids took this test seriously. With that being said, I'd like to make two side points. 1st in oklahoma, there are a lot of reservations & english in not the 1st language to a lot of kids there. 2nd, when the europeans immigrated to america, did any of them give a shit about native american law or it's leaders. I think the United States should just be thankful that the people immigrating here aren't comming here to kill them off systematically.

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Postby Czardas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:16 am

EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: God created the Earth in "six days" that is what the bible says but this was before time so God could've taken 6 billion years. after the big bang God might've taken a long time to make the earth

Six minutes, not six days. Or are you telling me you've read and translated the original Aramaic?

The original translators changed minutes to days because they were afraid six minutes would stretch credibility. But that's just stupid; he's freakin' God, he can create the world in six minutes if he wants to. That's only the first place they went wrong, too.
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Postby Seperates » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:17 am

prayers help student to keep God on their side

about creationism: last time i checked the great majority of american believe in creationism...Why should teachers teach theory that the greater majority of american don't want their childrean to learn? or at least teach BOTH theory


Pffffffffffft. :rofl: oh Christian conservative... You have absolutly no idea what you are talking about... Why would we EVER teach a

theory that comes from a book that contains STORIES from ancient Hebrew tribes. And besides they do teach both theories. But

Its just that as Ockham's Razor says "The simplist explanation is usaully the most correct". Evolution only deals with genetic code and

natural selection, simple, in comparison to god creating it. Why is the former simpler, you ask? Because if you use the latter you then

have to prove that god exists, which you could write a 1000 page essay on and still have no physical proof, only opinion, which thereby

makes it more complex.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:19 am

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote: I think the United States should just be thankful that the people immigrating here aren't comming here to kill them off systematically.

Well, tbh, if there were, theyd fail at this stage of the game, we have too many people, resources, and too much of the populace is armed for something like that to succeed...

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Postby Czardas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:20 am

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ChevyRocks wrote:You know, of course, the reason why these schools are rubbish is because they're run by the government, and no amount of funding will solve this problem; they'll keep functioning no matter how badly they perform, because they don't have worry about things like bankruptcy like the private sector does.

Yeah, because the private sector contains no examples of people not having to worry about bankruptcy or failure just because they run their businesses like shit, drive them into the ground, and/or loot the coffers of their own companies like a bunch of pirates, but still get to go on to their next ransacking with multi-million dollar bonuses.

Well, yeah. Since there's a chance something could go wrong with private sector schools, we should dismiss the idea outright, while continuing to advocate for public sector schools even though they could go wrong just as badly. Makes perfect sense, by my standards.
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Postby Aelosia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:22 am

Seperates wrote:
prayers help student to keep God on their side

about creationism: last time i checked the great majority of american believe in creationism...Why should teachers teach theory that the greater majority of american don't want their childrean to learn? or at least teach BOTH theory


Pffffffffffft. :rofl: oh Christian conservative... You have absolutly no idea what you are talking about... Why would we EVER teach a

theory that comes from a book that contains STORIES from ancient Hebrew tribes. And besides they do teach both theories. But

Its just that as Ockham's Razor says "The simplist explanation is usaully the most correct". Evolution only deals with genetic code and

natural selection, simple, in comparison to god creating it. Why is the former simpler, you ask? Because if you use the latter you then

have to prove that god exists, which you could write a 1000 page essay on and still have no physical proof, only opinion, which thereby

makes it more complex.


What happened to your "enter" key?
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:25 am

Maurepas wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote: I think the United States should just be thankful that the people immigrating here aren't comming here to kill them off systematically.

Well, tbh, if there were, theyd fail at this stage of the game, we have too many people, resources, and too much of the populace is armed for something like that to succeed...

9/11 wasn't a failure. In their eyes they got 3 out of 4 right & passed their imigration test. Of course, we have adjusted since then.

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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:25 am

Czardas wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
ChevyRocks wrote:You know, of course, the reason why these schools are rubbish is because they're run by the government, and no amount of funding will solve this problem; they'll keep functioning no matter how badly they perform, because they don't have worry about things like bankruptcy like the private sector does.

Yeah, because the private sector contains no examples of people not having to worry about bankruptcy or failure just because they run their businesses like shit, drive them into the ground, and/or loot the coffers of their own companies like a bunch of pirates, but still get to go on to their next ransacking with multi-million dollar bonuses.

Well, yeah. Since there's a chance something could go wrong with private sector schools, we should dismiss the idea outright, while continuing to advocate for public sector schools even though they could go wrong just as badly. Makes perfect sense, by my standards.

Well, seeing as Im God, as I have explcitly shown, lol...

Id say the obvious answer is to improve upon the Public System, while at the same time leaving the option open for private ones...simple, effective...

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Postby Rhodmhire » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:26 am

Aelosia wrote:
Seperates wrote:
prayers help student to keep God on their side

about creationism: last time i checked the great majority of american believe in creationism...Why should teachers teach theory that the greater majority of american don't want their childrean to learn? or at least teach BOTH theory


Pffffffffffft. :rofl: oh Christian conservative... You have absolutly no idea what you are talking about... Why would we EVER teach a

theory that comes from a book that contains STORIES from ancient Hebrew tribes. And besides they do teach both theories. But

Its just that as Ockham's Razor says "The simplist explanation is usaully the most correct". Evolution only deals with genetic code and

natural selection, simple, in comparison to god creating it. Why is the former simpler, you ask? Because if you use the latter you then

have to prove that god exists, which you could write a 1000 page essay on and still have no physical proof, only opinion, which thereby

makes it more complex.


What happened to your "enter" key?


Taking peoples' Enter keys gets easier every day.

*slithers back into the dark corner of the thread*
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Postby ChevyRocks » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:34 am

Muravyets wrote:
ChevyRocks wrote:You know, of course, the reason why these schools are rubbish is because they're run by the government, and no amount of funding will solve this problem; they'll keep functioning no matter how badly they perform, because they don't have worry about things like bankruptcy like the private sector does.

Yeah, because the private sector contains no examples of people not having to worry about bankruptcy or failure just because they run their businesses like shit, drive them into the ground, and/or loot the coffers of their own companies like a bunch of pirates, but still get to go on to their next ransacking with multi-million dollar bonuses.


Private sector companies who don't have to worry about bankruptcy due to terrible performance almost always are in such a situation because of government intervention keeping a company alive which should have collapsed and had its assets bought up by competent companies long ago.
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