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Now what motivates this kind of attack?

Postby NotRust » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:12 am

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26 ... 09,00.html

TWO children were killed when a suicide attacker believed to have been a woman blew herself up in a crowded area of western Herat city this morning, a senior police official said.
A 10-year-old boy and a girl aged seven were killed in the attack. Another young girl, a woman and an elderly man were wounded in the attack, said Ikramuddin Yarwar, police commander in western Afghanistan.

He said pieces of blue cloth that looked like they had been part of a burka, the all-covering article of clothing worn by many Afghan women, had been scattered around the site of the blast.

"Some pieces of burka were seen at the site, so we are investigating if the attack was committed by a woman," he said.

In other violence, the interior ministry said gunmen opened fire in a mosque in Jawzjan province on Friday, killing five men and wounding another two.

Six men had been arrested in relation to the incident, the ministry said in a statement.
Afghanistan is battling a resurgent Taliban that has expanded its footprint across the country in recent months.

An apparent campaign of suicide bombings has targeted military installations and personnel, most recently in Kabul on Thursday when an enormous car bomb blew up in Kabul, killing six Italian soldiers and 10 civilians.


I can understand attacks against military or political targets, but what possible reason could Islamic fundamentalist terrorists have to attack a group of innocent civilians?

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:16 am

I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.
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Postby NotRust » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:18 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.
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Postby Call to power » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:19 am

they didn't have shoes in her size.
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Postby Uri Land » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:19 am

NotRust wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.

Basically i think they want to let everyone know they would stoop to the level of killing little kids

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Postby Uri Land » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:20 am

Call to power wrote:they didn't have shoes in her size.

not funny

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Postby Risottia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:20 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


"Terrorism" means exactly "scaring a population by attacking targets that usually aren't thought to be attacked in war", like non-combatants, hospitals, cities, embassies...
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Postby The shadow of Dusk » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:20 am

They think it's the fastest way to get to their heaven (replete with virgins (or maybe only 72 of them per person? ;) ) and whatever they can desire. Who cares about against military or political targets? They (referring specifically to muslim terrorists/extrememists) probably think any unbeliever (of Islam) is a target . All hail stupidity :bow: :roll:
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Postby Yootopia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:20 am

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Postby Pevisopolis » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:21 am

NotRust wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.


I'm going to quote the Daily Show on this one:

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Postby Muravyets » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:32 am

NotRust wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.

They want the innocent civilians to be afraid to oppose them. They are not just out to get rid of whoever they see as an oppressor. They are oppressors themselves. They use terror against their own people to send the message "join us or else."
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Postby Call to power » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:33 am

Uri Land wrote:
Call to power wrote:they didn't have shoes in her size.

not funny


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Postby The Infinite Dunes » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:47 am

Yup, that be terrorism. Targeting civilian populations that do not believe in your cause. Because hey, if someone doesn't actively support you in your divine mission, then that must obviously mean they are heretical swine for whom 1000 deaths would not be enough.
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Postby NotRust » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:00 am

Muravyets wrote:
NotRust wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.

They want the innocent civilians to be afraid to oppose them. They are not just out to get rid of whoever they see as an oppressor. They are oppressors themselves. They use terror against their own people to send the message "join us or else."


Has that ever worked? I don't think many Americans decided to give in after 9/11. Far more would have liked to see the whole Middle East bombed into oblivion.

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Postby Yootopia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:02 am

NotRust wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
NotRust wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.

They want the innocent civilians to be afraid to oppose them. They are not just out to get rid of whoever they see as an oppressor. They are oppressors themselves. They use terror against their own people to send the message "join us or else."


Has that ever worked?

Yes, many places. See Indochina.
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Postby Northern Delmarva » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:10 am

Things like this are why I have no moral dilemmas with torturing terrorists.
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Postby NotRust » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:11 am

Yootopia wrote:
NotRust wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
NotRust wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.

They want the innocent civilians to be afraid to oppose them. They are not just out to get rid of whoever they see as an oppressor. They are oppressors themselves. They use terror against their own people to send the message "join us or else."


Has that ever worked?

Yes, many places. See Indochina.


Can you elaborate?

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Postby Aelosia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:14 am

Northern Delmarva wrote:Things like this are why I have no moral dilemmas with torturing terrorists.


Perhaps because of people like you, terrorists have no moral dilemmas with blowing themselves and killing whoever in on the way.
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Postby RoI3 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:14 am

NotRust wrote:I can understand attacks against military or political targets, but what possible reason could Islamic fundamentalist terrorists have to attack a group of innocent civilians?

Nice way to slip that in.
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Postby Muravyets » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:15 am

NotRust wrote:
Muravyets wrote:
NotRust wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.


There is no other side here. Just innocent civilians.

They want the innocent civilians to be afraid to oppose them. They are not just out to get rid of whoever they see as an oppressor. They are oppressors themselves. They use terror against their own people to send the message "join us or else."


Has that ever worked? I don't think many Americans decided to give in after 9/11. Far more would have liked to see the whole Middle East bombed into oblivion.

No, it has never worked, as far as I know, which is why terrorists are not only evil but stupid as well.
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Postby Pevisopolis » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:15 am

BrightonBurg wrote:Evil


I hate it when I see people throwing that word around.

Yes, these people are murderous bastards. However, before you use the word, define "Evil".
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Postby Seculartopia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:15 am

Radical Terrorists. They'll do anything to get a point made.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:16 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:I think thats why they're called terrorists. They just want to make life hell for the other side, forcing them to give in.

^^^This, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on your point of view, the other side rarely gives in, more often than not it just pisses them off...

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Postby Yootopia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:17 am

NotRust wrote:
Yootopia wrote:
NotRust wrote:
Muravyets wrote:They want the innocent civilians to be afraid to oppose them. They are not just out to get rid of whoever they see as an oppressor. They are oppressors themselves. They use terror against their own people to send the message "join us or else."


Has that ever worked?

Yes, many places. See Indochina.


Can you elaborate?

Erm to sum it all up quickly, the Viet Minh/Cong ruined everything for the South Vietnamese and whoever their allies were at the time by basically coercing the local villagers to act against their feudal overlord types (although there was probably quite a lot of sympathy for their ideas about land reform etc. as well). This is why Saigon is now Ho Chi Minh City.
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