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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:36 am

Al-Aqar wrote:To bring the thread back to its original topic,

"Why are you against single-payer health care?"
"Why is the United States still embroiled in multiple foreign wars, even though you promised we'd be out already?"
"Why, in this country, has it become the status quo to spread failure of the largest financial institutions (which themselves orchestrated our recent collapse) among the entire country - yet when they begin to recover, making record profits by investing taxpayers' money, it's theirs to keep, no questions asked?"


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"Why are you against single-payer health care?"

I am very much for a single payer system. The problem is, we can't pass it. I have taken the public option off the table in hopes of actually passing a bill.

"Why is the United States still embroiled in multiple foreign wars, even though you promised we'd be out already?"

I did? Oh yeah! No, I only promised Iraq. I am working on that, hold your horses. I also promised to hire an additional 92 thousand troops. I am also promising a surge in Afghanistan. You see, that will keep the military industrial complex busy. And unemployment lower. It's an economic benefit to all of us.

"Why, in this country, has it become the status quo to spread failure of the largest financial institutions (which themselves orchestrated our recent collapse) among the entire country - yet when they begin to recover, making record profits by investing taxpayers' money, it's theirs to keep, no questions asked?"


Good questions. You see, the profits the banks are making are not real. It's just the tricky accounting rules they use like we do. Remember all those bad mortgages and loans? They still have them. Credit card default rates have hit a record again. Unemployment is still rising. Causing yet more defaults. Shit, how do I fit recovery in this paragraph. Because you know... we are recovering!
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Postby Chetssaland » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:37 am

North Suran wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
North Suran wrote:
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Hairless Kitten II wrote:Are you Christian? If 'yes', how does this meet with your pro death penalty attitude?


I don't want to pay for people who killed numerous people to stay alive. Sometimes you have a good reason to kill.

I'd then inquire as to why you are intentionally ignoring an important section of the Bible?
John 8:7 wrote:When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."


So I should also believe men are above women? And gays are evil?

Except those particular edicts were revoked in the New Testament.

I don't, however, recall the "Don't be a self-righteous crusader and arbitrarily decide who gets to live or die" clause being edited out.


Well the same argument can go for the people who say "its God's right to decide who lives! No more medicine!". God sent armies to war, which meant they killed yes?

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Postby North Suran » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:39 am

Chetssaland wrote:
North Suran wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
North Suran wrote:
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Hairless Kitten II wrote:Are you Christian? If 'yes', how does this meet with your pro death penalty attitude?


I don't want to pay for people who killed numerous people to stay alive. Sometimes you have a good reason to kill.

I'd then inquire as to why you are intentionally ignoring an important section of the Bible?
John 8:7 wrote:When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."


So I should also believe men are above women? And gays are evil?

Except those particular edicts were revoked in the New Testament.

I don't, however, recall the "Don't be a self-righteous crusader and arbitrarily decide who gets to live or die" clause being edited out.


Well the same argument can go for the people who say "its God's right to decide who lives! No more medicine!". God sent armies to war, which meant they killed yes?

Man sent armies to war, under the justification of an alleged Divine Mandate.

If the God of Christianity exists, I'm pretty sure He'll be rather pissed off that one of His most sacred commandments ("Thou shalt not kill") is being routinely ignored by people who claimed to follow His teachings.
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Postby RightWingChristians » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:03 am

"For it is a servant of God for your good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose, it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer." Romans 13:4
North Suran wrote:If the God of Christianity exists, I'm pretty sure He'll be rather pissed off that one of His most sacred commandments ("Thou shalt not kill") is being routinely ignored by people who claimed to follow His teachings.


"After the death of Joshua the Israelites consulted the Lord, asking, 'Who shall be the first among us to attack the Canaanites and to do battle with them?' The Lord answered, 'Judah shall attack: I have delivered the land into his power.'" Judges 1:1-2

See 2 Samuel 8:1-14 and it shows the battes David fought.

"... Thus all the Edomites became David's subjects, and the Lord brought David victory in all his undetakings." 2nd Samuel 8:14

God didn't seem to upset about fighting then.

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Hairless Kitten II wrote:Are you Christian? If 'yes', how does this meet with your pro death penalty attitude?


I don't want to pay for people who killed numerous people to stay alive. Sometimes you have a good reason to kill.

I'd then inquire as to why you are intentionally ignoring an important section of the Bible?
John 8:7 wrote:When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."


"You shall keep away from anything dishonest. The innocent and the just you shall not put to death, nor shall you acquit the guilty." Exodus 23:7It clearly mentions not killing the innocent.

However, we are shown that God allows the Death Penalty for many things. Example.

"Anyone who curses his father or mother shall be put to death; since he has cursed his father or mother, he has forfeited his life." Leviticus 20:10

Ofcourse, Christians don't follow all the Old Testament laws.
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Postby Call to power » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:13 am

I'm amused that a thread about talking to the US involves so many biblical quotes :p

I'd ask what the US government plans on doing in order to ensure states such as Michigan can meet the living conditions of the more prosperous US states in the midst of an already failed (state) economy and rapidly deteriorating public services

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Postby Pevisopolis » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:23 am

Biotopia wrote:I'm currently the Editor of a magazine in Perth, Australia and have just scored an all-access interview with the Consul-General of the United States. This is pretty sweet timing becuase our new ambassador to the US was just announced and interviewed them just a few months ago (one degree of seperation to Obama, FTW). I know that America can provoke a lot of passionate opinions so i'm curious; "if you could ask the US a question, what would ask and why?"


Hello, representative of the United States. Why is your education system so shit poor?
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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:31 am

Chetssaland wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Are you Christian? If 'yes', how does this meet with your pro death penalty attitude?


I don't want to pay for people who killed numerous people to stay alive. Sometimes you have a good reason to kill.


The death penalty isn't free at all and even very expensive. At least in fully developed countries like USA.

However, I didn't know that in the Bible is written that you can kill people when that is the cheapest solution.

So let us kill old people or unemployment people: much cheaper than giving them a cheque each month! Very Christian!

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Postby Chetssaland » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:58 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Are you Christian? If 'yes', how does this meet with your pro death penalty attitude?


I don't want to pay for people who killed numerous people to stay alive. Sometimes you have a good reason to kill.


The death penalty isn't free at all and even very expensive. At least in fully developed countries like USA.

However, I didn't know that in the Bible is written that you can kill people when that is the cheapest solution.

So let us kill old people or unemployment people: much cheaper than giving them a cheque each month! Very Christian!


Well if thats how you roll, looking to kill old and unemployment people, go right ahead. Although I still find it creepy you hate both groups.

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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:17 am

Can I has healthcare? :D

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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:26 am

Maurepas wrote:Can I has healthcare? :D


*pretends to be Obama again.

You mean government provided healthcare? Probably not. But don't blame me when it doesn't happen. Don't tell me I didn't try.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:29 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Can I has healthcare? :D


*pretends to be Obama again.

You mean government provided healthcare? Probably not. But don't blame me when it doesn't happen. Don't tell me I didn't try.

Imll let you know now, I intend to do just that if I dont get it, cause thatll be exactly what happened...What part of Supermajority do ye not understand?

Although, tbqh, there's really nowhere else to turn, candidate wise, come 2012, I cant vote for Joe Wilson, :?

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:29 am

Chetssaland wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Are you Christian? If 'yes', how does this meet with your pro death penalty attitude?


I don't want to pay for people who killed numerous people to stay alive. Sometimes you have a good reason to kill.


The death penalty isn't free at all and even very expensive. At least in fully developed countries like USA.

However, I didn't know that in the Bible is written that you can kill people when that is the cheapest solution.

So let us kill old people or unemployment people: much cheaper than giving them a cheque each month! Very Christian!


Well if thats how you roll, looking to kill old and unemployment people, go right ahead. Although I still find it creepy you hate both groups.


You forgot the disabled ones, homeless guys, criminals, smokers, fat consumers and many others. Kill them!

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Postby Northern Delmarva » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:30 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Al-Aqar wrote:To bring the thread back to its original topic,

"Why are you against single-payer health care?"
"Why is the United States still embroiled in multiple foreign wars, even though you promised we'd be out already?"
"Why, in this country, has it become the status quo to spread failure of the largest financial institutions (which themselves orchestrated our recent collapse) among the entire country - yet when they begin to recover, making record profits by investing taxpayers' money, it's theirs to keep, no questions asked?"


*Pretends to be Obama

"Why are you against single-payer health care?"

I am very much for a single payer system. The problem is, we can't pass it. I have taken the public option off the table in hopes of actually passing a bill.

"Why is the United States still embroiled in multiple foreign wars, even though you promised we'd be out already?"

I did? Oh yeah! No, I only promised Iraq. I am working on that, hold your horses. I also promised to hire an additional 92 thousand troops. I am also promising a surge in Afghanistan. You see, that will keep the military industrial complex busy. And unemployment lower. It's an economic benefit to all of us.

"Why, in this country, has it become the status quo to spread failure of the largest financial institutions (which themselves orchestrated our recent collapse) among the entire country - yet when they begin to recover, making record profits by investing taxpayers' money, it's theirs to keep, no questions asked?"


Good questions. You see, the profits the banks are making are not real. It's just the tricky accounting rules they use like we do. Remember all those bad mortgages and loans? They still have them. Credit card default rates have hit a record again. Unemployment is still rising. Causing yet more defaults. Shit, how do I fit recovery in this paragraph. Because you know... we are recovering!


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Postby United Russian State » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:30 am

How the hell are you a world leader and make important decssions, yet show you don't even seem to understand the history and current events in regions outside of yours? You just follow Bush?
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Postby Classical Liberal » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:31 am

Sibirsky wrote:
Al-Aqar wrote:To bring the thread back to its original topic,

"Why are you against single-payer health care?"
"Why is the United States still embroiled in multiple foreign wars, even though you promised we'd be out already?"
"Why, in this country, has it become the status quo to spread failure of the largest financial institutions (which themselves orchestrated our recent collapse) among the entire country - yet when they begin to recover, making record profits by investing taxpayers' money, it's theirs to keep, no questions asked?"


*Pretends to be Obama

"Why are you against single-payer health care?"

I uh.... am very much uh...., um.... for a single uh....., um... payer system uh... The problem is uh.., we can't pass it uh..... I have taken the public option off the uh......, um..... table in hopes uh..... of actually uh.... passing uh.... a bill.

"Why is the United States still embroiled in multiple foreign wars, even though you promised we'd be out already?"

I did? uh..... Oh yeah! uh...., um.... No, I uh..... only promised Iraq. I am working uh..... on that uh...., hold your uh.... horses. I also promised to uh.... hire an uh... additional 92 thousand uh.... troops. I am also promising uh..... a surge in uh....., um... Afghanistan. You see, that will keep uh.... the military industrial complex uh.... busy. And unemployment uh.... lower. It's an economic benefit to all of us.

"Why, in this country, has it become the status quo to spread failure of the largest financial institutions (which themselves orchestrated our recent collapse) among the entire country - yet when they begin to recover, making record profits by investing taxpayers' money, it's theirs to keep, no questions asked?"


Good uh.... questions. You see, uh.... the profits the uh.... banks are making are not uh.... real. It's just the tricky accounting rules uh.... they use like uh.... we do. Remember uh.... all those uh.... bad mortgages and loans? They uh.... still have uh.... them. Credit card default uh.... rates have hit uh.... a record again. uh.... Unemployment is still uh.... rising. Causing yet more uh.... defaults. Shit, how uh.... do I fit uh.... recovery in this paragraph. Because uh.... you know uh.... we are recovering!


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Postby Call to power » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:34 am

United Russian State wrote:How the hell are you a world leader and make important decssions, yet show you don't even seem to understand the history and current events in regions outside of yours? You just follow Bush?


to be fair sitting across an ocean whilst everyone else was in fisty cuffs has worked rather well for them
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United Russian State wrote:How the hell are you a world leader and make important decssions, yet show you don't even seem to understand the history and current events in regions outside of yours? You just follow Bush?


Because bullshit rhetoric+speaking skills>understanding what the hell's going on
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United Russian State wrote:How the hell are you a world leader and make important decssions, yet show you don't even seem to understand the history and current events in regions outside of yours? You just follow Bush?


Because bullshit rhetoric+speaking skills>understanding what the hell's going on
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Postby Sibirsky » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:36 am

United Russian State wrote:How the hell are you a world leader and make important decssions, yet show you don't even seem to understand the history and current events in regions outsideincluding of yours? You just follow Bush?


Corrected.
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:36 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Are you Christian? If 'yes', how does this meet with your pro death penalty attitude?


I don't want to pay for people who killed numerous people to stay alive. Sometimes you have a good reason to kill.


The death penalty isn't free at all and even very expensive. At least in fully developed countries like USA.

However, I didn't know that in the Bible is written that you can kill people when that is the cheapest solution.

So let us kill old people or unemployment people: much cheaper than giving them a cheque each month! Very Christian!

This a a great point I can never understand. In the courtroom, mistakes are made (we are human). Wrongful convictions happen, so how can we justify the possibility of one wrongful execution for "x" number of right ones. We are suppose to be a country based on Christian morals. There is also the issue of unequal representation. Although a poor man is granted public representation, it's nowhere near the quality of what a rich man can afford. Even if you would agrue that the US justice system is one of the best systems on earth, with these flaws, how can we, in good conscious, have a death penalty?

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Postby Haven Fotress » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:43 am

Stop saying Chance!

I dont like Chance!

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:49 am

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Fixed.


Thats fucking hilarious, I can actually see him saying most of it now.

I suppose a good question to ask would be about the environment:

What do you plan to do about the global warming initiatives that have been put forward by some countries in Europe?

Do you have any plans for expanding wildlife areas, or allowing more drilling in previously protected areas?
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Haven Fotress wrote:Stop saying Chance!

I dont like Chance!


do you mean "change"?
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:59 am

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Actually, most of the people I know hate McDonald's, including me.


Sadly you and the people you know are a minority. :(

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Postby Biotopia » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:44 pm

Oh hello little thread, i see you have grown.

Some great questions have been posed, I really liked the question about ensuring the quality of life across all states. Keep posting there are some great questions being asked.
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