Dumb Blonde Sayz: Vaccines Kill Ur Kidz!

[Niicha]

What the hell is wrong with autism!? You people act like its a bad thing!

Well, that's a bit of a red herring, no?

[Niur]

Not that I don't beieve you (I'm a little skeptical though), but do you have a source?

I don't know, I'm just aproximating.. But i am guessing the actual stats are something like that.

[Allbeama]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.The vaccination conspiracy theories abound, like there are those who claim AIDS and other terrible things are found in vaccines.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=34&contentid=1377 Same story different names. Guess what?

no real evidence is presented either.

[Niur]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.The vaccination conspiracy theories abound, like there are those who claim AIDS and other terrible things are found in vaccines.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=34&contentid=1377 Same story different names. Guess what?

no real evidence is presented either.

Yet another Voice of reason on Ns, I was beginning to think they had all but died out.

[Allbeama]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.The vaccination conspiracy theories abound, like there are those who claim AIDS and other terrible things are found in vaccines.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=34&contentid=1377 Same story different names. Guess what?

no real evidence is presented either.

Yet another Voice of reason on Ns, I was beginning to think they had all but died out.

shh..if I get called that too much people might ignore me.

[Niicha]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.The vaccination conspiracy theories abound, like there are those who claim AIDS and other terrible things are found in vaccines.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=34&contentid=1377 Same story different names. Guess what?

no real evidence is presented either.

Yet another Voice of reason on Ns, I was beginning to think they had all but died out.

...No offense, but you seem to only think people who agree with you are "voices of reason". I'm just saying...

[Neu California]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.The vaccination conspiracy theories abound, like there are those who claim AIDS and other terrible things are found in vaccines.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=34&contentid=1377 Same story different names. Guess what?

no real evidence is presented either.

The bolded is why I have no faith in humanity. Why people buy into that shit is beyond me

[NotRust]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Even mild forms of autism, such as AS, suck total ass.

[Dyakovo]

If only there was a vaccine for the stupid ...

It's called 'getting an education'.

Even an education can't cure stupid. How many educated idiots do you know? I believe one was in charge of our country for a time.

Well, there is a difference between getting an education and buying one...

[Dyakovo]

...or how Patrick Swayze was killed by chemotherapy.

Well, chemotherapy does do a lot of harm...
Of course its better than the alternative, but still...

[Meoton]

If only there was a vaccine for the stupid ...

It's called 'getting an education'.

You can be educated and stupid at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive.
As my dad would say, "If you educate and idiot, all you get is an educated idiot."
Though, teaching people how to think logically would help.

[Allbeama]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Even mild forms of autism, such as AS, suck total ass.

I am inclined to disagree, I find a little perspective is nice so maybe I don't want to kill myself for being "different", I think its fair to say autism is overly stigmatized is all, its not life threatening, it doesn't cause physical pain, and as I said I have been observed to display traits associated with autism specifically Asperger's Syndrome, and honestly yeah my life sucks ass, but I am told this is not unique to just those with autism. I kindly request that you take your condescending self righteous indignation and blow it out an appropriate orifice.

[Meoton]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Even mild forms of autism, such as AS, suck total ass.

I am inclined to disagree, I find a little perspective is nice so maybe I don't want to kill myself for being "different", I think its fair to say autism is overly stigmatized is all, its not life threatening, it doesn't cause physical pain, and as I said I have been observed to display traits associated with autism specifically Asperger's Syndrome, and honestly yeah my life sucks ass, but I am told this is not unique to just those with autism.

The overly diagnosed Asperger's aside, many forms of autism are very debilitating. Such as being nonresposive to other people or just completely unable to emotional connect at all.

[Tunizcha]

I have been diagnosed with several forms of autism (minor, mind you), and it's not that bad. It's not that good, but it's not incredibly debilitating.

[Meoton]

I have been diagnosed with several forms of autism (minor, mind you), and it's not that bad. It's not that good, but it's not incredibly debilitating.

My nephew was diagnosed with Asperger's, he get's along fine, as well. But more serious forms do exist.
As to the topic of the forum, she's full of hooey.

[Pope Joan]

My old friend from school had a healthy little boy.
They took him in for a multiple vaccination shot.
He came home with autism and has been a severe burden to his parents ever since.

I took turns caring for him in our church nursery at the time; he would get very agitated whenever anyone came near. this was new behavior, and could be tied to that specific date.

Ok, anecdotal evidence. But it did happen.

I see no truly independent studies on the issue, only self-serving ones.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/ ... 6175.shtml

Two things make me hestitate to rule out any connection:

1. I think public health policy planners would prefer to prevent mass outbreaks of disease even if it costs a few kids a normal life.

2. Vaccines are a big money making proposition. In America, money is power.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/61874.php

http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/severyn.html

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 2947.shtml

[Allbeama]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Even mild forms of autism, such as AS, suck total ass.

I am inclined to disagree, I find a little perspective is nice so maybe I don't want to kill myself for being "different", I think its fair to say autism is overly stigmatized is all, its not life threatening, it doesn't cause physical pain, and as I said I have been observed to display traits associated with autism specifically Asperger's Syndrome, and honestly yeah my life sucks ass, but I am told this is not unique to just those with autism.

The overly diagnosed Asperger's aside, many forms of autism are very debilitating. Such as being nonresposive to other people or just completely unable to emotional connect at all.

I sometimes think that dealing with other people is overrated anyway, but that is just me. My main issue is the way its like cut and paste disease/disorder here and there is a case against giving your kid something that can save him from a horrible death at the hands of a virulent, but treatable and preventable disease. Its reprehensible as a parent in my view to not vaccinate your child to protect against these illnesses.

[Dempublicents1]

My old friend from school had a healthy little boy.
They took him in for a multiple vaccination shot.
He came home with autism and has been a severe burden to his parents ever since.

I took turns caring for him in our church nursery at the time; he would get very agitated whenever anyone came near. this was new behavior, and could be tied to that specific date.

Ok, anecdotal evidence. But it did happen.

Pretty much all children with autism seem "perfectly healthy" until after their vaccines. This is because you don't start seeing most of the developmental deficiencies until around the same time that vaccines are given, not because there is a causal link between the two. There have been some studies into earlier signs of autism, but they are hard to pin down and they are things that most parents and doctors wouldn't notice.

Your friend's son most likely had autism from birth. They just didn't notice it until after the vaccine.

[Niur]

I think its funny they say autism like its a serious birth defect, cancer, the plague, leprosy or a predisposition to touch little boys. I mean come on, its not even as bad as tourettes syndrome.I am saying this as someone who may have a form of autism, that is currently not officially diagnosed so I am not claiming that I do, just that the theory has been proposed.The vaccination conspiracy theories abound, like there are those who claim AIDS and other terrible things are found in vaccines.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=34&contentid=1377 Same story different names. Guess what?

no real evidence is presented either.

Yet another Voice of reason on Ns, I was beginning to think they had all but died out.

...No offense, but you seem to only think people who agree with you are "voices of reason". I'm just saying...

yes, but I have yet to find someone who disagrres with me who has thouroghly deafeted me in an debate.

[GetBert]

People who rely on celebrities for medical advice are pretty much fools

[Gauthier]

People who rely on celebrities for medical advice are pretty much fools

And given the prominence and prosperity of certain organizations, there's plenty of fools relying on celebrities for medical advice.

[Niur]

My old friend from school had a healthy little boy.
They took him in for a multiple vaccination shot.
He came home with autism and has been a severe burden to his parents ever since.

I took turns caring for him in our church nursery at the time; he would get very agitated whenever anyone came near. this was new behavior, and could be tied to that specific date.

Ok, anecdotal evidence. But it did happen.

I see no truly independent studies on the issue, only self-serving ones.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/ ... 6175.shtml

Two things make me hestitate to rule out any connection:

1. I think public health policy planners would prefer to prevent mass outbreaks of disease even if it costs a few kids a normal life.

2. Vaccines are a big money making proposition. In America, money is power.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/61874.php

http://www.jpands.org/hacienda/severyn.html

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish ... 2947.shtml

your theory can be disproven quite easily, People had autism before vaccines, and people who have never in their entire life had a vaccine for ANYTHING still get autism. If vaccienes caused it this would not be the case.

[Dakini]

The anti-vaccination movement is supremely stupid. It's the intelligent design or young earth creationism of medicine.


Or one of them. Suzanne Somers and her endorsement of bioidentical hormone replacement theory would be another example of pseudoscientific medical quackery. At least that one is harming desperate women who choose this for themselves instead of young children.

[Rhodmhire]

The anti-vaccination movement is supremely stupid. It's the intelligent design or young earth creationism of medicine.


Or one of them. Suzanne Somers and her endorsement of bioidentical hormone replacement theory would be another example of pseudoscientific medical quackery. At least that one is harming desperate women who choose this for themselves instead of young children.

Three's Company wasn't even that good of a show.

And yes, I was actually thinking of posting a totally new thread about Somers' crackpot ideas on the subject, but I assumed it'd just be inserted into the thread naturally through watching the video and a common knowledge of idiotic blondes who think they're smarter than doctors because they've been in movies and TV shows.

[Gauthier]

The anti-vaccination movement is supremely stupid. It's the intelligent design or young earth creationism of medicine.


Or one of them. Suzanne Somers and her endorsement of bioidentical hormone replacement theory would be another example of pseudoscientific medical quackery. At least that one is harming desperate women who choose this for themselves instead of young children.

Three's Company wasn't even that good of a show.

And yes, I was actually thinking of posting a totally new thread about Somers' crackpot ideas on the subject, but I assumed it'd just be inserted into the thread naturally through watching the video and a common knowledge of idiotic blondes who think they're smarter than doctors because they've been in movies and TV shows.

Would Pamela Anderson shilling for PETA count?