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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:00 am

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Postby Person012345 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:31 am

Cameroi wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Absolutely. There is no inherent morality intrinsic to the universe. It serves us all to have a few arbitrary moral values. As long as they are internally consistent and aren't based on incorrect information, that's good.


Aain, we're not talking about ignoring reality.

Here's how this started:
>You made claim
>I responded to claim
>You responded to my response
>I responded to your response by applying the concept cited in your response to my response to you, to your original claim to demonstrate inconsistency in what you were saying
>You made some red herring I don't really understand atm and didn't address the point.


i stated an observation
you responded to a misunderstanding of my observation that totally baffles me.

there is really very little excuse for the existence of sovereignty in any form otherwise.

That's a claim. One that I didn't misunderstand. You're assuming your opinion is fact. I pointed out that it isn't.

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Postby Yahkima » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:05 am

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Voldasdt wrote:Closest type would be national socialism 10 points to anyone who knows what it is before searching it.

To start with the explanation of National Socialism, Adolf Hitler was never a homo-sexual, Eva Braun was his mistress, her history eliminates this theory. for those of you who deny this haven't listened to history before, if this is not believed then ask Ribbentrop's secretary (Still alive today). National socialism is focused on Militarism and culture of the German people. people are purified in the National Socialist desire. to be hardy, the women are to look after the children and the mans duty is the Battlefield. Hitler youth was designed by National Socialist staff to relay this type of person to create a master race of tough and strong soldiers unsurpassed by any others. religious belief is obvious. crush the Jewish Religion's in the world power. you all must know that National Socialism requires secret police to weed out the ones that do not belong within the master race's image. for example, the master race was almost to succeed one method of this was birth restriction. to keep the mentally and physically unfit people out of the burdens of the Nation. Mainly to reduce the idea of welfare. Thus Economic Growth with funds.

any other questions are free to be asked, and i won't fail to answer them.

I love how he starts with Hitler not being gay. As though this were the greatest possible objection one could have to NAZIs.

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Postby Cameroi » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:06 am

Person012345 wrote:
Cameroi wrote:
i stated an observation
you responded to a misunderstanding of my observation that totally baffles me.

there is really very little excuse for the existence of sovereignty in any form otherwise.

That's a claim. One that I didn't misunderstand. You're assuming your opinion is fact. I pointed out that it isn't.

let me start over and put it this way: IT WARMS THE COCKLES OF ME HEART THAT "A NAZI WOULD DISAGREE WITH ME". the point i'm missing, the very thrust of it, is what, precisely in the name of whatever is fit to name, does this HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? let along with the subject of socialism?
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Postby Person012345 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:07 am

Cameroi wrote:
Person012345 wrote:
That's a claim. One that I didn't misunderstand. You're assuming your opinion is fact. I pointed out that it isn't.

let me start over and put it this way: IT WARMS THE COCKLES OF ME HEART THAT "A NAZI WOULD DISAGREE WITH ME".

I have no problem with that.

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Postby Jenlom » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:11 am

I'm that type of socialism which actually works in the real world.

Hahaha not really, I'm just shitting with you. We all know that doesn't exist.

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Postby Foguk » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:19 am

I think all core industries should be nationalized, you know, Agriculture, mining, healthcare, Banking especially. I'd like to see grocery stores nationalized too. Basically anything that is necessary to live a decent should be nationalized. Obscure, small industries should probably remain free market. By that I mean IPhone app development, possibly social networking, some of the arts, prostitution. You know, small stuff like that. Actually, free market sounds a bit strong. They should just be well-regulated.
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Postby SmilezRoyale » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:23 am

I am not a socialist but I am a "Social"-ist.

Any action I can justify performing to, for, or against another individual, either to that individual or to society is defined to be "Social":

Any action I cannot justify performing to, for, or against another individual [Either by myself or with the help of others],is defined to be "Antisocial"

I.e. If I can't justify as an individual [or group of individuals] breaking into someone's house and throwing them into a cage for Worshiping a particular idol i do not like or Owning certain plants I do not approve of etc, Then such an act is clearly 'Anti-Social' -- In the sense that it defies actions by individuals that are consider.

"Socialism" is "Antisocial"-ist whenever it proposes that some group of individuals be given powers that cannot be justified as powers wielded by any other individuals or associations of individuals.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:36 pm

I am National Socialism! I guess you meant "What kind of socialist are you?" but I really like "What kind of socialism are you?" I never knew I could be an ideology.

In RL, I have never found an -ism that really adequately describes my political views, but they are sort of my own version of democratic socialism. I am only a Nazi on NS.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:39 pm

Yahkima wrote:
Blitzkreig Reich wrote:To start with the explanation of National Socialism, Adolf Hitler was never a homo-sexual, Eva Braun was his mistress, her history eliminates this theory. for those of you who deny this haven't listened to history before, if this is not believed then ask Ribbentrop's secretary (Still alive today). National socialism is focused on Militarism and culture of the German people. people are purified in the National Socialist desire. to be hardy, the women are to look after the children and the mans duty is the Battlefield. Hitler youth was designed by National Socialist staff to relay this type of person to create a master race of tough and strong soldiers unsurpassed by any others. religious belief is obvious. crush the Jewish Religion's in the world power. you all must know that National Socialism requires secret police to weed out the ones that do not belong within the master race's image. for example, the master race was almost to succeed one method of this was birth restriction. to keep the mentally and physically unfit people out of the burdens of the Nation. Mainly to reduce the idea of welfare. Thus Economic Growth with funds.

any other questions are free to be asked, and i won't fail to answer them.

I love how he starts with Hitler not being gay. As though this were the greatest possible objection one could have to NAZIs.


Well, from a Nazi point of view being gay is a very serious accusation...
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Postby Marisena » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:20 pm

A libertarian socialist.
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Postby Awesome Break-Away of 250land » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:17 pm

Cameroi wrote:government justifies its existence by being of service, and otherwise stays out of the way. otherwise known as service state anonymous.

it is of service by protecting people from starving, freezing, or beating each other over the head, and by keeping infrastructure in harmony and balance with the natural environment.

and it doesn't really matter what ideology you call it or don't. there is really very little excuse for the existence of sovereignty in any form otherwise.


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Postby Vousielle » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:51 pm

Kemaliste wrote:State socialist, combined with Kemalist ideology. I also support Maoism (New Democratic Revolution), Revolutionary Socialism and Socialism in One Country thesis.


Your political philosophy (that which ive seen of it) always struck me as a bit of a totalitarian ideology. Too much nationalism and authoritarianism for my tastes.

As for my brand of socialism, I run my nation according to my beliefs.
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:56 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:I am National Socialism! I guess you meant "What kind of socialist are you?" but I really like "What kind of socialism are you?" I never knew I could be an ideology.

In RL, I have never found an -ism that really adequately describes my political views, but they are sort of my own version of democratic socialism. I am only a Nazi on NS.


Interesting. I always thought you claimed national socialism in an ironic way.
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Postby Ski Apache Nation » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:22 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Voldasdt wrote:The only way that will happen is if the West and/or china invests in it and sends over specialists and factory workers africa would never be able to industrialise on its own.


The first world extracts $100 billion out of the continent of Africa; I'd say they've invested plenty in it, and plenty to keep it from becoming industrialized.

Your belief that they need the first world's help to industrialize is misguided; it's because of the first world that they're incapable of industrializing.


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Postby Vorond » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:35 am

I'm a social democrat...have been for a long time.
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Postby Ski Apache Nation » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:51 am

Social Democrat. Austria is usually an example. Even though Hitler assassinated most of the early ones before and during "Anschluss".

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Postby Raludcia » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:57 am

probably National Socialist
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Postby Terran Apeiron Dunamis » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:01 am

A socialist empire that only exists to keep it's citizens free from worry about war, or not having enough credits(money) to eat, Or perhaps not enough to even drink water, Or even to need to worry about having shelter. and believes that all citizens should have their shelter, freedom form war, being able to eat and drink.
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Postby Jakaragua » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:04 am

Anarchist-Communism, a non-market, free-access economy.
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Postby Hipistan (Ancient) » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:06 am

I'm not a socialist, as socialism supports state ownage over property. I'm a communist. Anarcho-communist. Leftist utopist. I don't support Marx or his theory about a proletariat dictatorship.
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Postby The Black Plains » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:08 am

I believe that humans are social creatures and ought to interact with each other in ways that benefit both parties. Does that count?

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Postby Good Old Libertarianism » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:09 am

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Postby Person012345 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:09 am

Hipistan wrote:I'm not a socialist, as socialism supports state ownage over property.

Not necessarily. State socialism does. Normally socialism advocates worker ownership of businesses.

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Postby Greater Mackonia » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:10 am

Marxist-Leninist.
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