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by Astrolinium » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:53 pm
by The Truth and Light » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:55 pm
Astrolinium wrote:Having read almost none of the debate, I find this concept to be hilariously saddening and poorly thought out.
by Grainne Ni Malley » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:55 pm
Itanica wrote:Oh god just shut up already.
"System of male privilege"
That's bullshit and you know it. If anything, men are disadvantaged.
Who gets all the money in a divorce?Women. Whomever the courts decide is most deserving of it depending upon the circumstances presented.
Who can scream rape and ruin your life?Women. Anyone. Men get raped, too.
Who is obligated to pay for the dinner at a date?MenWhomever is in the most desperate need of getting laid.
Who is obligated to buy their partner nice things?MenMutual obligation.
Who is obligated to pay support for the child in a divorce?MenWhomever has custody of the children.
Who always gets custody of the child in a divorce?WomenThe most fit parent.
Who decides when the couple can / cannot have sex?WomenBoth parties, unless it's rape.
I'm not saying women are inferior to men, but god damn it FST, your arguments are completely flawed. Perhaps 60 years ago, they would be valid points. But now? No. Get over it, you are not automatically an oppressor if you have something protruding out of your pelvic area.
by Astrolinium » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:56 pm
by Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:56 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:57 pm
by The Truth and Light » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:57 pm
by The Truth and Light » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:58 pm
by Grainne Ni Malley » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:00 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:00 pm
by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:00 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:You seem to misunderstand me. I'm not saying we should ignore our instincts. What I'm saying that as we are capable of judgement above and beyond those instincts, we have better decision making tools available to us, and we should use them. We should not attach moral values to something just because it is instinctual.
Charlie: A man takes a drop too much once in a while, it's only human nature.
Rose: Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Farnhamia » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:01 pm
by Coherent Imbeciles » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:03 pm
by The Republic of Lanos » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:04 pm
by Astrolinium » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:06 pm
by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:06 pm
Grainne Ni Malley wrote:Simple solution. A Consent Form must be signed by all participants and a witness prior to all sexual activity.
Example:The parties involved within hereby consent to sexual activity as defined by the individual participants on said document, restricted within the dedicated date and time frame as specified by participants who have duly signed and obtained witness confirmation. Photocopies of a legal means of picture identification must be attached and initialed by consenting participants, or this contract shall be deemed null and void in a court of law.
Full Names of Consenting Individuals (be sure to include the names of all consenting individuals):
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
Date of Consent: _______________________
Sexual Activity Shall Commence No Sooner Than: __________________ am/pm
Sexual Activity Shall Cease No Later Than: __________________ am/pm
Sexual Activity Shall Include the Following (if a sexual activity is not listed on these lines, participating individuals may be held liable for damages and/or immediately found guilty of rape):
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________
Sleepover Clause
Should one, or more, of the individuals listed within this document decide to have intercourse past the date and times specified within this document, a Consent Form MUST be signed for each subsequent sexual act.
I, the undersigned, hereby affirm that I have agreed to the conditions and terms of sexual activity as described above. I further maintain that I am of sound mind and under no duress at the time of this signing. (If more signatures are required, individuals must fill out a 009782-134GB Form)
Signature A _______________________________
Signature B _______________________________
Signature C _______________________________
Signature D _______________________________
Signature E _______________________________
I, the undersigned, confirm that I am a witness to the consent of the above parties to participate in willing sexual activity as described within said document. I further agree to be called upon should the context of this form come into question and testify as to the exact understanding of what sexual activity was consented to within this form.
Witness __________________________ Date___________ Time_____________
Telephone Number ____________________ Address _______________________________________
All parties listed on this form must obtain and keep a copy for their personal records. If a discrepancy is found on any individual's form, or a form cannot be provided as proof of consent, an individual may be found guilty of and held liable for charges of rape and punished to the maximum extent of the law.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:07 pm
by Yes Im Biop » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:07 pm
The Republic of Lanos wrote:I have yet to see this rape culture in America. I demand real proof or it doesn't exist.
[violet] wrote:Urggg... trawling through ads looking for roman orgies...
Idaho Conservatives wrote:FST creates a half-assed thread, goes on his same old feminist rant, and it turns into a thirty page dogpile in under twenty four hours. Just another day on NSG.
Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:09 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:09 pm
by Grainne Ni Malley » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:09 pm
by Farnhamia » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:10 pm
by Jerusalem and Damascus » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:10 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:10 pm
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