Abortion

[Thatchland]

I support abortion being legal but I'm just wondering how many people support abortion support government regulating what people can and can't eat?

What?

Support of the ability to have the choice of abortion is not a regulation, it's a "get out of the private lives" deregulation.

Regulating what people can and can't eat would be the exact opposite. So I'm kind of confused to your point?

[New England and The Maritimes]

No. Every body is 100% normal and perfect in every way, and pregnancy never carries complications, and all lives work out exactly how you plan them. Every time. From this fact, I deduce that all abortion is evil and all women are stupid whores.

It's all so clear now. It's all been in my head the whole time! *slowly rises from wheelchair* I can walk! *falls on face* Nope. False alarm.

You are draining the nation's resources by choosing to be crippled. That is my money too, comrade! *gathers the Zyklon-B*

[Thatchland]

*Comes into thread to debate abortion

*Religion being forced down everyone's throats

Yep, that's basically normal for NSG.

It was "mostly" fine for the first 30-odd pages ...

[IshCong]

It's all so clear now. It's all been in my head the whole time! *slowly rises from wheelchair* I can walk! *falls on face* Nope. False alarm.

You are draining the nation's resources by choosing to be crippled. That is my money too, comrade! *gathers the Zyklon-B*

HEY! That's my money you're spending on that obnoxiously expensive gas!
Use this, you get better mileage. *Hands over a guillotine.*

[Republic of Tropical Partiers]

I support abortion being legal but I'm just wondering how many people support abortion support government regulating what people can and can't eat?

What?

Support of the ability to have the choice of abortion is not a regulation, it's a "get out of the private lives" deregulation.

Regulating what people can and can't eat would be the exact opposite. So I'm kind of confused to your point?

Both are the government telling what people can and can't with their own money and bodies along with what they produce. If you support abortion then you should logically support deregulation of food, which I do.

[The Pretend Pub]

I suspect no one.

Except conservatives, because they hate freedom.

I suspect a lot of people support regulations guaranteeing that the food they are purchasing is not riddled with parasites, bacteria, etc. Does that count?

That's not the same thing as saying you can't make it yourself and eat it if you want.

[Tlaceceyaya]

What?

Support of the ability to have the choice of abortion is not a regulation, it's a "get out of the private lives" deregulation.

Regulating what people can and can't eat would be the exact opposite. So I'm kind of confused to your point?

Both are the government telling what people can and can't with their own money and bodies along with what they produce. If you support abortion then you should logically support deregulation of food, which I do.

Deregulation of food meaning precisely... what?

[Dempublicents1]

I always find it difficult to answer this question when it isn't carefully worded. Are we talking about personal views or political views?

I am personally opposed to abortion in most cases. I am politically pro-choice on the matter. I do not believe that I would choose abortion in many of the cases where others have, but I would not force others to abide by my opinion.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

I read the last four pages and already feel like I need a drink.

[Condunum]

I always find it difficult to answer this question when it isn't carefully worded. Are we talking about personal views or political views?

I am personally opposed to abortion in most cases. I am politically pro-choice on the matter. I do not believe that I would choose abortion in many of the cases where others have, but I would not force others to abide by my opinion.

One of the few.

[Republic of Tropical Partiers]

Both are the government telling what people can and can't with their own money and bodies along with what they produce. If you support abortion then you should logically support deregulation of food, which I do.

Deregulation of food meaning precisely... what?

Someone shouldn't be arrested for purchasing and/or selling raw milk/ selling lemonade without a permit, etc.

[Condunum]

I read the last four pages and already feel like I need a drink.

Oh, go through the rest. You'll hate yourself for it.

[IshCong]

I suspect a lot of people support regulations guaranteeing that the food they are purchasing is not riddled with parasites, bacteria, etc. Does that count?

That's not the same thing as saying you can't make it yourself and eat it if you want.

It sounds like he's speaking about deregulating the food industry though.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

I read the last four pages and already feel like I need a drink.

Oh, go through the rest. You'll hate yourself for it.

I'm at the level where I need a drink, not where I want to commit murder suicide.

[IshCong]

Oh, go through the rest. You'll hate yourself for it.

I'm at the level where I need a drink, not where I want to commit murder suicide.

Murder-suicide gets boring after the third time you do it anyway.

[Condunum]

Oh, go through the rest. You'll hate yourself for it.

I'm at the level where I need a drink, not where I want to commit murder suicide.

If it helps... We haven't had too much evil in the first 30 pages. It just got worse.

[Republic of Tropical Partiers]

That's not the same thing as saying you can't make it yourself and eat it if you want.

It sounds like he's speaking about deregulating the food industry though.

I'm a she. I'm asserting that logically speaking that people support abortion should support any effort againist government telling what you can and can't eat because both are invasion of privacy.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

I'm at the level where I need a drink, not where I want to commit murder suicide.

If it helps... We haven't had too much evil in the first 30 pages. It just got worse.

I can tell.

You know, this whole damn thing shouldn't be a big deal.

[Dempublicents1]

Deregulation of food meaning precisely... what?

Someone shouldn't be arrested for purchasing and/or selling raw milk/ selling lemonade without a permit, etc.

Then you're making the wrong comparison. If this is what you want to compare to, you would have to say that someone who supports access to abortion cannot support laws that require it to be performed by licensed medical doctors who perform it under sterile conditions and with the proper equipment.

Since most people who are pro-choice fully support medical regulations of that sort, it is nonsensical to suggest that they should not support similar regulations on the sale of food products.

[IshCong]

It sounds like he's speaking about deregulating the food industry though.

I'm a she. I'm asserting that logically speaking that people support abortion should support any effort againist government telling what you can and can't eat because both are invasion of privacy.

Ah, forgive me then.

[Condunum]

If it helps... We haven't had too much evil in the first 30 pages. It just got worse.

I can tell.

You know, this whole damn thing shouldn't be a big deal.

What do you think we tried to tell most of the Pro-life advocates in here? USSR was probably the worst since I joined the thread.

[The Pretend Pub]

It sounds like he's speaking about deregulating the food industry though.

I'm a she. I'm asserting that logically speaking that people support abortion should support any effort againist government telling what you can and can't eat because both are invasion of privacy.

Except regulating what can be bought and sold on the open market isn't the same as regulating as what you can actually put into yourself, so the analogy isn't valid at all.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

I can tell.

You know, this whole damn thing shouldn't be a big deal.

What do you think we tried to tell most of the Pro-life advocates in here? USSR was probably the worst since I joined the thread.

I'm pro-life and pro-choice. I probably wouldn't personally have an abortion if I had a vagina, but it's not my choice.

[The Pretend Pub]

If it helps... We haven't had too much evil in the first 30 pages. It just got worse.

I can tell.

You know, this whole damn thing shouldn't be a big deal.

As long as the authoritarians insist on making a big deal out of outlawing it, those of us who are on the side of justice and morality have little choice.

[12 laws]

The only people that should be arguing about abortions are:
- The woman having it
- In some cases the father
The rest should just float off and mind their own business.

1) if my taxes are helping to pay for it, it is my business.
2) in some cases the father??? why is it only the mothers choice to end the life of a fathers child? it takes two to make a life but one to end it?