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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:45 pm

So I had a conversation today (as most of my threads start), and I came to the shocking revelation that when I hit something that I simply can't deal with, I remove it from what I perceive as "reality" into a hypothetical offshoot of my current existence. Now, I'll explain.

When something happens that is so horrifically bad that I simply cannot deal with it now, I detach it from myself and treat it as a hypothetical situation mentally. I say "now, if X happened to my friend Bob, how would I tell him to proceed?" I then advise myself in such a way, and do so. I then deal with it as if I am Bob, so to speak, and go through the motions of what I would have advised Bob to do.

Upon reflection, I am half a step from creating a secondary personality to deal with the shit I can't really deal with.

Ok, does anybody else do this, or am I a complete and total nutcase?
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:48 pm

I do it all the time, I talk to myself, the radio, tv, various objects, nothing at all...and just run through scenarios that are happening, or I think will happen, or ideas Ive had, or political musings that I cant literally yell directly at the pundit in question...

Im not sure Im the gold standard of normality though, :lol2:

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Postby Tubbsalot » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:52 pm

That doesn't sound like the usual way of dealing with problems you can't handle, but hey, maybe you just think about this a lot. That might explain how your reaction got so well developed (and also how you acknowledged that you do this, and also that you made a thread on NSG about it).
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:54 pm

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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:03 pm

Hypothetically, if Czardas could be affected at all by bad things, Czardas might consider the affected part of himself a "separate personality". In fact, Czardas might go to the trouble of dividing his psyche into three separate voices, all of which, unusually, serve as "superegos" in traditional and now-debunked psychoanalysis. This would only happen if Czardas ever experienced problems in his life, of course, which he hasn't.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:06 pm

Czardas wrote:Hypothetically, if Czardas could be affected at all by bad things, Czardas might consider the affected part of himself a "separate personality". In fact, Czardas might go to the trouble of dividing his psyche into three separate voices, all of which, unusually, serve as "superegos" in traditional and now-debunked psychoanalysis. This would only happen if Czardas ever experienced problems in his life, of course, which he hasn't.

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Postby Taeshan » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:08 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Czardas wrote:Hypothetically, if Czardas could be affected at all by bad things, Czardas might consider the affected part of himself a "separate personality". In fact, Czardas might go to the trouble of dividing his psyche into three separate voices, all of which, unusually, serve as "superegos" in traditional and now-debunked psychoanalysis. This would only happen if Czardas ever experienced problems in his life, of course, which he hasn't.

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Postby Ryadn » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:10 pm

I don't do that exactly, but I do detach from reality during short periods of extreme stress. Your way actually sounds more functional, in that you can talk it over with yourself. When I dissociate badly, it's more like my life is a movie I'm watching, and not a very interesting one.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:12 pm

Ryadn wrote:I don't do that exactly, but I do detach from reality during short periods of extreme stress. Your way actually sounds more functional, in that you can talk it over with yourself. When I dissociate badly, it's more like my life is a movie I'm watching, and not a very interesting one.


In a sense, that's what it is. I am the puppetmaster of my own self, you might say. I'm basically watching myself perform an action, and advising myself on what to do. The person who experiences it is not me, but a detached portion of myself which I then give advice to on-the-fly.
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Postby Czardas » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:17 pm

Ryadn wrote:I don't do that exactly, but I do detach from reality during short periods of extreme stress. Your way actually sounds more functional, in that you can talk it over with yourself. When I dissociate badly, it's more like my life is a movie I'm watching, and not a very interesting one.

"That also describes me pretty well. Except it's not just in periods of extreme stress, it's all the time; and it doesn't sound in my head like a movie, but more like a book or a story. So it doesn't really describe me very well at all," Czardas typed on an internet forum.
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Postby Terraliberty » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:17 pm

It's normal human behaviour. Most of us don't acknowledge that we do it and it can worry those of us that notice but it's fine. It allows us to make more rational decisions.
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:25 pm

I don't quite do that.

I am EXTREMELY squeamish about blood and bleeding -- always have been, long before AIDS was anyone's worry.
I also have taken Advanced First Aid and CPR (though my card LONG since lapsed).

When friends and family have gotten hurt badly, like when my mom fell on some ice, broke her wrist badly, and had her arm about three inches shorter and deformed because the bones had come apart and the ends had passed each other, the part of me that was screaming, crying, and trying hard not to puke was shoved into a wee little mental box. Why? Because I was the only one who could deal with her injuries at that moment, and because I needed to be calm and avoid hurting her as I splinted her arm, made a proper sling, stopped the cuts on her knees and other hand from bleeding, and driving her to the emergency room. Once she was in the hands of ER doctors, I lost it entirely and ended up blubbing and puking in the bathroom.

When I HAVE to deal, the part of me that can't gets caged up. When I no longer have to be responsible, then the "Spock persona" goes bye-bye.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:47 pm

Katganistan wrote:I don't quite do that.

I am EXTREMELY squeamish about blood and bleeding -- always have been, long before AIDS was anyone's worry.
I also have taken Advanced First Aid and CPR (though my card LONG since lapsed).

When friends and family have gotten hurt badly, like when my mom fell on some ice, broke her wrist badly, and had her arm about three inches shorter and deformed because the bones had come apart and the ends had passed each other, the part of me that was screaming, crying, and trying hard not to puke was shoved into a wee little mental box. Why? Because I was the only one who could deal with her injuries at that moment, and because I needed to be calm and avoid hurting her as I splinted her arm, made a proper sling, stopped the cuts on her knees and other hand from bleeding, and driving her to the emergency room. Once she was in the hands of ER doctors, I lost it entirely and ended up blubbing and puking in the bathroom.

When I HAVE to deal, the part of me that can't gets caged up. When I no longer have to be responsible, then the "Spock persona" goes bye-bye.


That sounds just like me, I cannot watch an operation on tv, but in those emergency cases I keep my head cool and just know what to do. Except I don't call it a spock persona, I don't make star * references.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:32 pm

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Luckily no one can send me to an asylum because I'm just a bridge... I do notice sometimes that theres a conversation in my head, when I do its actually terribly annoying, and I do everything to stop it that I can.
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:36 pm

Maurepas wrote:I do it all the time, I talk to myself, the radio, tv, various objects, nothing at all...and just run through scenarios that are happening, or I think will happen, or ideas Ive had, or political musings that I cant literally yell directly at the pundit in question...

Im not sure Im the gold standard of normality though, :lol2:


Wow. That's exactly what I do. And I thought I was crazy all along! At least I'll have friends in the psych ward this time.
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Postby United Russian State » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:39 pm

I had a number of bad experinces muyself, such as with my father. So I now have detached myself from everyone and everything! This way if a friend/faimly dies or something eles horrifically it won't hurt as much, if at all. :)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:43 pm

I tend to speak to myself, arguing as the same person, only twice.

I'm not making any sense, am I?
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Postby Vetalia » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:49 pm

As long as you don't start drawing Sonic recolors and creating a town called CWCville you should be okay.
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Postby Krytenia » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:36 pm

Galloism wrote:So I had a conversation today (as most of my threads start), and I came to the shocking revelation that when I hit something that I simply can't deal with, I remove it from what I perceive as "reality" into a hypothetical offshoot of my current existence. Now, I'll explain.

When something happens that is so horrifically bad that I simply cannot deal with it now, I detach it from myself and treat it as a hypothetical situation mentally. I say "now, if X happened to my friend Bob, how would I tell him to proceed?" I then advise myself in such a way, and do so. I then deal with it as if I am Bob, so to speak, and go through the motions of what I would have advised Bob to do.

Upon reflection, I am half a step from creating a secondary personality to deal with the shit I can't really deal with.

Ok, does anybody else do this, or am I a complete and total nutcase?


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Postby Tunizcha » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:42 pm

I have many different personalities. They aren't completely separate from each other, so I don't think that you could really call me a schizophrenic. It's unusual. My different personalities respond to different things.
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Postby KaIashnikov » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:59 pm

Galloism wrote:Upon reflection, I am half a step from creating a secondary personality to deal with the shit I can't really deal with.


Thats never the correct answer. When shit hits the fan, be thankful you weren't killed. It how I think. Iraq, Our radio man was hit in the neck, I'm still wondering how it didn't strike his Juggler, the bullet bounced off the back of his helmet and stuck the radio, and his leg. The Corpsman, Squad leader, and assultman where tending to him while the grenadier tried to get the radio going. 3 others where suppressing the enemy. I stood up, and stared death down the barrel of a cheap soviet weapon, and laughed in its face. Somehow got to the next squad to call a medivac. And ended up in nice bed with an army nurse tending to me at camp liberty. At least I didn't have to walk back to the FOB. See I turned the bad situation into a good one.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:12 pm

Vetalia wrote:As long as you don't start drawing Sonic recolors and creating a town called CWCville you should be okay.


How did you know about CWCville?
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:00 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ryadn wrote:I don't do that exactly, but I do detach from reality during short periods of extreme stress. Your way actually sounds more functional, in that you can talk it over with yourself. When I dissociate badly, it's more like my life is a movie I'm watching, and not a very interesting one.


In a sense, that's what it is. I am the puppetmaster of my own self, you might say. I'm basically watching myself perform an action, and advising myself on what to do. The person who experiences it is not me, but a detached portion of myself which I then give advice to on-the-fly.

Then you don't have a problem. It becomes a problem when you think of it as compleatly seperate and whom controls you, not the other way around.

If it helps, I 'talk' to myself all the time. The 'voice' is different from my own and we can have long conversations about various issues. It's just at the end of the day, I'm well aware that it is me and I am just talking to myself.

Of course, I also teach junior high school so my sanity is probably in question anyways. :p
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:10 pm

If I don't know how to deal with something, I usually call someone to talk to them about, well, anything, really.

It's usually during a conversation that I work out what to do about the situation.

Or if I really can't deal with it I call my grandfather/father and use them as sounding boards for ideas about what to do about the situation. (They're usually awake for those 4:00 am calls. :p)
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