TfL tries to remove the Thames from London

[RoI3]

Aren't changes like that supposed to be consulted with the people first?

You want to vote or have public hearings on changes to a subway map?

It's not a subway map.

[North Suran]

Why the Hell is this making the news?

The Thames river is no longer featured in the London Underground maps!

Oh noes!

The only thing worthwhile about this article is Boris Johnson's standard sensationalising:

Mr Johnson said: "I hope Londoners will imagine the Thames in place until it reappears on the maps, and will not forget their beautiful river."

I doubt any Londoner would describe the Thames as "beautiful".

[LOL ANARCHY NUBZ]

Why the Hell is this making the news?

The Thames river is no longer featured in the London Underground maps!

Oh noes!

The only thing worthwhile about this article is Boris Johnson's standard sensationalising:

Mr Johnson said: "I hope Londoners will imagine the Thames in place until it reappears on the maps, and will not forget their beautiful river."

I doubt any Londoner would describe the Thames as "beautiful".

I would, compared to your mother.

[Kryozerkia]

Why the Hell is this making the news?

The Thames river is no longer featured in the London Underground maps!

Oh noes!

The only thing worthwhile about this article is Boris Johnson's standard sensationalising:

Mr Johnson said: "I hope Londoners will imagine the Thames in place until it reappears on the maps, and will not forget their beautiful river."

I doubt any Londoner would describe the Thames as "beautiful".

I would, compared to your mother.

Refrain from making further tasteless comments of this nature.

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Aren't changes like that supposed to be consulted with the people first?

You want to vote or have public hearings on changes to a subway map?

It's not a subway map.

Yes, it is. It's the London Underground map. It has some above ground lines on the map, but it's an underground railway primarily.

[Newer Burmecia]

The only thing worthwhile about this article is Boris Johnson's standard sensationalising:

Mr Johnson said: "I hope Londoners will imagine the Thames in place until it reappears on the maps, and will not forget their beautiful river."

I doubt any Londoner would describe the Thames as "beautiful".

This is the guy who harps on about bendy buses and routemasters, after all. To be honest, I wouldn't have noticed if the Thames was replaced with Johnson's very own penis, given that I'm too busy looking at the stations.

Yes, it is. It's the London Underground map. It has some above ground lines on the map, but it's an underground railway primarily.

If I remember rightly, arounf three-fifths of the Tube runs above ground, but only pendants like me care about that.

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Yes, it is. It's the London Underground map. It has some above ground lines on the map, but it's an underground railway primarily.

If I remember rightly, arounf three-fifths of the Tube runs above ground, but only pendants like me care about that.

Would you argue that it is not a subway? It is the original underground raliway, and a lot of the uncovered areas are in cuttings. Unlike the DLR, it was designed as an underground system

[RoI3]

Aren't changes like that supposed to be consulted with the people first?

You want to vote or have public hearings on changes to a subway map?

It's not a subway map.

Yes, it is. It's the London Underground map. It has some above ground lines on the map, but it's an underground railway primarily.

Subway =/= London Underground

[Unchecked Expansion]

Aren't changes like that supposed to be consulted with the people first?

You want to vote or have public hearings on changes to a subway map?

It's not a subway map.

Yes, it is. It's the London Underground map. It has some above ground lines on the map, but it's an underground railway primarily.

Subway =/= London Underground

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Subway

a usually electric underground railway

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Yes, it is. It's the London Underground map. It has some above ground lines on the map, but it's an underground railway primarily.

If I remember rightly, arounf three-fifths of the Tube runs above ground, but only pendants like me care about that.

Would you argue that it is not a subway? It is the original underground raliway, and a lot of the uncovered areas are in cuttings. Unlike the DLR, it was designed as an underground system

Simpler term to describe these in my opinion: urban transit.

Mark Easton Blog Article

I know rivers are not much to do with urban transit maps but according to Mark Easton it does help people read it the right way round. When I read Mark Ovenden's Metro Maps of the World just now, I found out that not all maps were north at the top: as I can remember, the map of Lille's VAL is in fact so simplified that C.H. Dron station, shown on map as being in the south is actually in the north!

[RoI3]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Subway

a usually electric underground railway

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tube

a. An underground railroad tunnel.
b. An underground railroad system, especially the one in London, England.

[Geniasis]

So would I be safe in assuming that the Thames is culturally significant in some way and/or has a great deal of cultural sentiment attached to it?

[Taeshan]

Just another case of Whitewashing by officials.

[Unchecked Expansion]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Subway

a usually electric underground railway

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tube

a. An underground railroad tunnel.
b. An underground railroad system, especially the one in London, England.

I'm English, and accept Subway as a description of the the network. Its an americanism, like elevator or trunk, but its a synonym

[Charlotte Ryberg]

To be quite honest the design of the map is a matter of graphic design, and as one of the artists I think designing one that would please everyone is probably a huge challenge. The most difficult one is the London Connections map. Still, I could fit the Thames without problems.

[Post-Unity Terra]

How prissy are londoners? Oh no, they removed the river from a map where it isn't relevant! The world is ending! Hurry, take shelter lest chunks of fallen sky strike you on the head!

[Bears Armed]

Aren't changes like that supposed to be consulted with the people first?

You want to vote or have public hearings on changes to a subway map?

Seeing as the Thames is such an important landmark in London, yes.

I'll grant you that taking it off was kind of silly, but after all, it's the Underground. The trains go under the river, not through it, so who cares if the river is marked on the map? Realistically, when trying to go from Point A north of the river to Point B south of it, when you're entire trip will be below the ground, do you really care if you go under a river?

yes, some people do; They worry, however irrationally, that the river might break through...
(Never mind the fact that that would flood a lot of the other tunnels too, anyway...)

If I remember rightly, arounf three-fifths of the Tube runs above ground, but only pendants like me care about that.

[Abdju]

yes, some people do; They worry, however irrationally, that the river might break through...
(Never mind the fact that that would flood a lot of the other tunnels too, anyway...)

My mother in law came to visit me a while ago, and had never used the tube in her life, was terrified when she found out we'd crossed under the river during the journey...

Personally, I think the tube map has been must up ever since they started showing the Overground on it. It adds a whole load of complications to the map.

1. A lot of tourists think these lines are lines with a metro frequency and they can just turn up and go, then find out hey have to wait half an hour or more.

2. The routes the Overground uses are totally unclear from the map, as there is no colour differentiation for the different branches.

3. The whole Overground bit looks like an ominous omen from the FSM.

The best thing would be to have a separate Overground map in tube style (individual colours for each route, and clear indications of frequency), perhaps printed on the reverse of hand out maps, and displayed next to tube maps at stations.

As for the Thames, it's best to leave it, as it does help people unfamiliar with the system find their way around, and also is an instant orientation tool for finding a station on the map. That said, it's stupid this is news. It's not THAT big of a deal FFS.