A Sugar Tax on Soda? How about on EVERYTHING?

[New Kereptica]

Taxing sugar?

If you really want to get technical, sugars are present in everything we eat (Hell, that's WHY we eat them), and are necessary for the production of adenosine triphosphate (Cellular Respiration, the very definition of if something is alive or not).

So why doesn't he just make extra taxes for all foods, hmm?

Legislature has no connection to science!

I mean, the Indiana House of Representatives tried to legislate the value of pi!

[JuNii]

An alternative: tax OBESITY, not the supposed "causes" of obesity...

I'll gladly attend the peoples' funerals who proposed such a tax about 1-2 days after the tax is put into action.

It'll give me something to do that day.

*shrugs* Those most offended by such a tax probably aren't (physically) capable of capable of murder... except drive-by shootings

Ya' never know.

I think taxation on that level would anger them enough to give them some quick burst of energy to kill what they'd perceive as prey.

Hahaha! Great picture... I can't tell what the caliber it's chambered for (.454 casull?, .50??)

it's a 44 Magnum... It shoots through schools.

[Niur]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

[Yootopia]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

... yeah I think you just showed why. "Because some people need sorting".

[New Kereptica]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Well, it does say in the Preamble that the Constitution (and therefor the United States) was formed to promote the general welfare. If this tax actually helps those people, then I think it is working toward that end.

[Niur]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Well, it does say in the Preamble that the Constitution (and therefor the United States) was formed to promote the general welfare. If this tax actually helps those people, then I think it is working toward that end.

yes but it doesn't help the people that aren't obese! It negetivly effects us!

[New Kereptica]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Well, it does say in the Preamble that the Constitution (and therefor the United States) was formed to promote the general welfare. If this tax actually helps those people, then I think it is working toward that end.

yes but it doesn't help the people that aren't obese! It negetivly effects us!

's why I said "if".

[Yootopia]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Well, it does say in the Preamble that the Constitution (and therefor the United States) was formed to promote the general welfare. If this tax actually helps those people, then I think it is working toward that end.

yes but it doesn't help the people that aren't obese! It negetivly effects us!

So? Some fatarse filling up a bad in ER due to a self-inflicted heart attack is a serious threat to yer welfare if you get hit by a car, no?

[Samatolian City-States]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Well, it does say in the Preamble that the Constitution (and therefor the United States) was formed to promote the general welfare. If this tax actually helps those people, then I think it is working toward that end.

You're working from the assumption that the new tax is actually designed to help people. That's just the justification, and things don't work that way.

[Vetalia]

Sometimes I wonder why people never grow their own tobacco and roll it themselves. Are they really that lazy?

Hard part isn't growing it (in fact, tobacco grows best in marginal soils and is a pretty plant to boot) but curing it properly. Most people have limited resources for curing it once it's harvested, which is what you'd need to produce most tobacco products. Of course, if you get that down you can basically supply all the tobacco you could ever want forever...

[Blouman Empire]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090916/ap_on_he_me/us_med_soda_tax

One of the proposed plans being circulated more realistically now to fight obesity and pay for the healthcare plan is a tax on soda. Don't get me wrong, I am not opposing that nor will I stop buying soda if it passes, but just taxing soda is entirely disingenuous. They are going after soda because its full of fat making sugar. So what? Has anyone in America looked at their food? What about Kool-Aid, the majority of "juices," all of those pouch drinks? They all contain inordinate amounts of HFCS (high fructose corn syrup, the 'devil' in soda). And that is solely drinks aimed at kids. What about things normal people might use. Ketchup? I am quite certain HFCS is the second ingredient after water. Peanut butter? If you arn't buying the purely natural stuff (peanuts and salt) and it only has HFCS, you are lucky. It usually has molasses as well as palm sugar and such in order to firm it up for spreading. If you arn't putting it together yourself, there is a 75% chance there is HFCS in it. But are they instituting a tax on HFCS? Fuck no. The corn lobby would have every farmer in the US shipped to DC to march in the streets and burn officials in effigy. So they are going solely after soda which is full of "sugar" without ever mentioning that the real problem is almost every god damn product in the US is full of empty calories derived from HFCS just like soda.

The reason why they want to tax Soda is because it is one of the things that can be easily pointed at and says that makes people fat. So in order for the government to increase revenue and make it seem as if they are doing something to stop some sort of obesity epidemic is to do something that is quick and easy and everyone can see and that is to tax soft drink.

That's all politicians who only care about their approval ratings and winning the next election do, something that is quick, easy and the moronic public can see.

[Pevisopolis]

So long as Government exists, Taxation is a necessary evil.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Then why don't we abolish food subsidies altogther?

[Niur]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Well, it does say in the Preamble that the Constitution (and therefor the United States) was formed to promote the general welfare. If this tax actually helps those people, then I think it is working toward that end.

yes but it doesn't help the people that aren't obese! It negetivly effects us!

So? Some fatarse filling up a bad in ER due to a self-inflicted heart attack is a serious threat to yer welfare if you get hit by a car, no?

lets just retract welfare and medicare from overly obese people! that will teach them To make me Diet!

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Taxing sugar?

If you really want to get technical, sugars are present in everything we eat (Hell, that's WHY we eat them), and are necessary for the production of adenosine triphosphate (Cellular Respiration, the very definition of if something is alive or not).

So why doesn't he just make extra taxes for all foods, hmm?

Legislature has no connection to science!

I mean, the Indiana House of Representatives tried to legislate the value of pi!

Heh, all things considered, it kinda makes sense.

[Niur]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Then why don't we abolish food subsidies altogther?

If you want taxes, tax something like Tobacco, a thing that has only negetive effects on you. Infact make a ciegrette cost a buck each with taxes. That will raise gov. funds, and decrease smoking levels.

[Vetalia]

If you want taxes, tax something like Tobacco, a thing that has only negetive effects on you. Infact make a ciegrette cost a buck each with taxes. That will raise gov. funds, and decrease smoking levels.

No, it'll just make organized crime lots of money and drive legitimate people out of business.

[Maurepas]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Then why don't we abolish food subsidies altogther?

If you want taxes, tax something like Tobacco, a thing that has only negetive effects on you. Infact make a ciegrette cost a buck each with taxes. That will raise gov. funds, and decrease smoking levels.

Or just force poor people to spend all of their wages on their Addictions...but whatever floats your boat...

[Lord Tothe]

Hmmm... A morality tax. Yay. Yet another way government agents seek to control behavior through taxing the shit out of stuff just because they can. Maybe ending subsidy programs on tobacco and corn instead of taxing the products...

[Samatolian City-States]

So long as Government exists, Taxation is a necessary evil.

The question is, how much is necessary and how much is just stupid?

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Legislature has no connection to science!

I mean, the Indiana House of Representatives tried to legislate the value of pi!

I remember reading about that. Yeah, congresspeople aren't exactly the sharpest pencils in the box.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

again, why should I have to pay MY money because some people are lazy and fat, and won't lose weight unless the government makes them.

Then why don't we abolish food subsidies altogther?

If you want taxes, tax something like Tobacco, a thing that has only negetive effects on you. Infact make a ciegrette cost a buck each with taxes. That will raise gov. funds, and decrease smoking levels.

... I don't want taxes, I want the subsidies to disappear.

[Big Jim P]

An alternative: tax OBESITY, not the supposed "causes" of obesity...

I'll gladly attend the peoples' funerals who proposed such a tax about 1-2 days after the tax is put into action.

It'll give me something to do that day.

*shrugs* Those most offended by such a tax probably aren't (physically) capable of capable of murder... except drive-by shootings

Ya' never know.

I think taxation on that level would anger them enough to give them some quick burst of energy to kill what they'd perceive as prey.

Hahaha! Great picture... I can't tell what the caliber it's chambered for (.454 casull?, .50??)

Looks like a 45-70.

[Blouman Empire]

Legislature has no connection to science!

I mean, the Indiana House of Representatives tried to legislate the value of pi!

I remember reading about that. Yeah, congresspeople aren't exactly the sharpest pencils in the box.

If they were they wouldn't be running for political office.

[Barzan]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090916/ap_on_he_me/us_med_soda_tax

One of the proposed plans being circulated more realistically now to fight obesity and pay for the healthcare plan is a tax on soda. Don't get me wrong, I am not opposing that nor will I stop buying soda if it passes, but just taxing soda is entirely disingenuous. They are going after soda because its full of fat making sugar. So what? Has anyone in America looked at their food? What about Kool-Aid, the majority of "juices," all of those pouch drinks? They all contain inordinate amounts of HFCS (high fructose corn syrup, the 'devil' in soda). And that is solely drinks aimed at kids. What about things normal people might use. Ketchup? I am quite certain HFCS is the second ingredient after water. Peanut butter? If you arn't buying the purely natural stuff (peanuts and salt) and it only has HFCS, you are lucky. It usually has molasses as well as palm sugar and such in order to firm it up for spreading. If you arn't putting it together yourself, there is a 75% chance there is HFCS in it. But are they instituting a tax on HFCS? Fuck no. The corn lobby would have every farmer in the US shipped to DC to march in the streets and burn officials in effigy. So they are going solely after soda which is full of "sugar" without ever mentioning that the real problem is almost every god damn product in the US is full of empty calories derived from HFCS just like soda.

If only those products were filled with sugar. Instead, they're filled with corn syrup, that bastard cheap-ass fake sugar. Let the corn farmers rot -- corn is for chickens and cows, it's not for people. They already get-off with massive subsidies and protective regulations as it is -- otherwise why use corn syrup at all? No one else in the world does.