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[Vlack Sturm]

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returning to gameplay. and move to greater glory of the stratocracy.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Your anecdote seems more like anthropomorphism and coincidence. Or LSD, given that people began freaking out.

[Vlack Sturm]

Your anecdote seems more like anthropomorphism and coincidence. Or LSD, given that people began freaking out.

I don't do drugs. I was completely sober and perfectly normal.

Edit: plus I hate drugs.

Reason I was freaking out, was because it doesn't usually happen to me.

[Ashmoria]

If you want more proof of God’s existence and that He is there, let me tell you some of my personal experiences.

you offered no proof before or after this sentence.

[Vlack Sturm]

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By meaning proof, i don't mean "oh-look-science" proof. I mean spiritual proof. Which by the way, a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory.

[Phantasmagoria]

Sorry, but personal experience doesn't count as proof of something, that's what we call an 'anecdote', and is the basis of all religions.

There is no need to rationalise your faith, because faith cannot be rationalised.

[Austral-Zealand]

*Sigh*.. ok personal anecdotes with no scientific evidence do not count as proof, and I'm going to be REALLY nice hear and assume that 1.You actually saw this and are not lying and 2. that you weren't high as a kite when you did, Why is it god? I mean didn't lighting seem to be the work of god to primitive peoples, when you see something unexplainable you need to call for a scientist not a preacher.

[Erinkita]

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By meaning proof, i don't mean "oh-look-science" proof. I mean spiritual proof. Which by the way, a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory.

And?

[Samuraikoku]

You expect God to do everything, but you shouldn’t expect everything. He acts through us humans, not through Himself or His angels. Proof? He acted through the Allies during World War II, if it wasn’t for them the whole world would probably be under Axis control and the Holocaust would have claimed more lives.

Then "God" was rather indecisive, letting Hitler conquer most of Europe and claim six million lives.

[Ashmoria]

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By meaning proof, i don't mean "oh-look-science" proof. I mean spiritual proof. Which by the way, a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory.

you offer no spiritual proof before the sentence and afterwards your only proof is a weather phenomenon.

[Vlack Sturm]

Sorry, but personal experience doesn't count as proof of something, that's what we call an 'anecdote', and is the basis of all religions.

There is no need to rationalise your faith, because faith cannot be rationalised.

I call it proof. And you can't rationalize anything.

TBH, science and God may be the same thing. We will never know until we die.... so you do have good points.

[Unchecked Expansion]

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By meaning proof, i don't mean "oh-look-science" proof. I mean spiritual proof.

Then you don't mean proof, you mean opinion.

[Saint Jade IV]

Your entire post pretty much boils down to:

When people do good things, it's really God.

When people do bad things, it's because we're bad.

I think that's highly insulting to good and bad people everywhere.

There's a lot of deeply religious people who are really quite bad people.

There's a lot of really good people who do really amazing things, and I doubt that the only reason they do so is because "God" is working through them.

You have no arguments that haven't been heard and dismissed and disproven before, and give a lot of the actual decent Christians who manage to have logical, rational discussions about things without massively insulting large segments of the population a bad name by association.

[Saint Jade IV]

Sorry, but personal experience doesn't count as proof of something, that's what we call an 'anecdote', and is the basis of all religions.

There is no need to rationalise your faith, because faith cannot be rationalised.

I call it proof. And you can't rationalize anything.

TBH, science and God may be the same thing. We will never know until we die.... so you do have good points.

You can call it whatever you like. Doesn't make it so.

[Farnhamia]

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By meaning proof, i don't mean "oh-look-science" proof. I mean spiritual proof. Which by the way, a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory.

So what if "a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory"? All that proves is that a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory, nothing more, nothing less.

As for "spiritual proof," that's the easiest cop-out in the world. It comes down to you having a foolproof out when challenged: "Proof? It's spiritual, you have to trust me."

All that said, I have nothing against you or your faith. Your somewhat snotty attitude towards people who don't agree with you strikes me as rather unchristian, but that's between you and your god.

[Austral-Zealand]

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By meaning proof, i don't mean "oh-look-science" proof. I mean spiritual proof. Which by the way, a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory.

There is no proof other than scientific proof, and guy, give up, much as Im never going to convert people to socialism you will never convert those who believe in the scientific method and certifiable proof with your anecdotal story, which you could be strait making up. Its pointless, your not going to convince these people (or me for that matter) that god exists without there being a scientific consensus.

[Erinkita]

Some of you are no better than the religious extremists. Now get over your differences and learn all you can about everything. Now please respond politely and sensibly. Or ask me questions of what my religion [Roman Catholicism] really believes, i will try to answer to the best to my abilities.

It's pretty audacious to ask others to be polite and sensible after you spent eight paragraphs being insultingly condescending to everyone who doesn't share your beliefs.

[Farnhamia]

Some of you are no better than the religious extremists. Now get over your differences and learn all you can about everything. Now please respond politely and sensibly. Or ask me questions of what my religion [Roman Catholicism] really believes, i will try to answer to the best to my abilities.

It's pretty audacious to ask others to be polite and sensible after you spent eight paragraphs being insultingly condescending to everyone who doesn't share your beliefs.

That "everyone" is wrong, see, so it's his duty to enlighten them and it can be very frustrating to do so, hence the condescension. It's his cross to bear and I'm sure he prays every day for strength to overcome it.

[Raeyh]

I believe there is a God, but I don't believe he deserves our worship.

And war is a simply human invention

Lucifer: "I will not serve."
God: "Go destroy all the rebellious angels, my loyal servants."
(Civil war ensues)

God definitely invented war right there.

[Samuraikoku]

It's pretty audacious to ask others to be polite and sensible after you spent eight paragraphs being insultingly condescending to everyone who doesn't share your beliefs.

That "everyone" is wrong, see, so it's his duty to enlighten them and it can be very frustrating to do so, hence the condescension. It's his cross to bear and I'm sure he prays every day for strength to overcome it.

He had a faith crisis today, apparently.

[Yaltabaoth]

Which by the way, a lot of scientists believe in God. And a Catholic priest came up with the Big-Bang Theory.

There's a proportion of the population who are religious.
There's a proportion of the population who accept the scientific method.
These populations overlap.
Big fucking whoopie.

[Erinkita]

It's pretty audacious to ask others to be polite and sensible after you spent eight paragraphs being insultingly condescending to everyone who doesn't share your beliefs.

That "everyone" is wrong, see, so it's his duty to enlighten them and it can be very frustrating to do so, hence the condescension. It's his cross to bear and I'm sure he prays every day for strength to overcome it.

He's a modern day saint.

[Farnhamia]

That "everyone" is wrong, see, so it's his duty to enlighten them and it can be very frustrating to do so, hence the condescension. It's his cross to bear and I'm sure he prays every day for strength to overcome it.

He had a faith crisis today, apparently.

Must have been quite the crisis, since he abandoned the thread. Still, hope springs eternal, he might come back.

[Utopia FTW]

Groovy story dude

[Samuraikoku]

He had a faith crisis today, apparently.

Must have been quite the crisis, since he abandoned the thread. Still, hope springs eternal, he might come back.

He'll come back, he surely wouldn't want to be labeled as that which he first described.