How Obama Could Be A Better President

[Oliver the Mediocre]

3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]

Wait, wait wait. When did the Philippines become part of Hawaii?

[Wamitoria]

How could this be a better thread?

OP could make an actual point.
OP could attempt to make sense.

[Triumvirate of Mars]

Now. Dealing with Lawyers, if you know anything about law in your own common knowledge.. What are Lawyers? Defendants, don't be mistaken by District Attorneys who are the Prosecuters, both technically lawyers but Defendants are a different story. I INFACT hate the idea of having a Lawyer as a politician. Why? Because it means, and proves, that Barrack Obama has the ability to honestly-Lie to the American people, which he has been doing. Why again? Because Defendants often have to defend people that they may even know as a fact that they are guilty.

I actually do "know anything" about law, but clearly you do not.
You do not go to Law school to be a "Defendant", as you so weirdly said it. In L1, all are indistinguishable. After that, the President focused on ConLaw and ended up taking a teaching position, along with writing his surprisingly insightful books.
Next, lawyers are not trained to lie. That is, to beat around the bush, an incredibly stupid opinion. A lawyer who is caught lying is censured/disbarred. You can hold your ignorant opinions, but do not lambast an entire portion of the population based on baseless simplicity. Besides, many people lie. George Bush, decidedly not a lawyer, told the entire nation there were WMDs in Iraq.
And Defendants do not defend people. Defense attorneys do. The defendant is the person charged with the crime. His attorney would be referred to as "Counsel for the Defense". And if said Counsel is ever informed by the Defendant that the Defendant is indeed guilty, he has to rescind himself from the case. Also, even if a person is guilty, it is our Constitutional right as Americans to be granted Counsel and a trial. If anything, the President ought to be commended for choosing such a mentally grueling position to take.

That is true, majoritively. Not everything is so complicated, and by simplifying you can consider it "Ignorance" But it is in lamons... Or as the anal asshole put it "Laymons". Then irregardless, as 'glorified' of a lawyer and Author as he was, then why is it that Obama Care, which is Socialized Health Care, still supported, let alone presented by Obama? It is Unconstitutional, but I guess his Law school didn't teach him much about the Constitution.

[Neutraligon]

Obama should:

- Abolish the federal reserve, federal government and all its departments
- Privatise everything else
- Officially dissolve the United States of America
- Resign and be hailed as the man who freed America

No.

Privatization everything is a gateway to enslavement, not freedom.

And dissolving a nation and replacing it's government with nothing? Yes, because that works so well for Somalia, right?

Also the Fed is the backbone of economy, and a solid, secure backbone. To get rid of it would to have no economy. Then your private businesses have no value, no worth. You ruin your own plan just by implementing it.

I think your sarcasm meter is broken. At least I hope that was sarcasm.

[Divair]

How could this be a better thread?

OP could make an actual point.
OP could attempt to make sense.

Too bad OP won't do that.

[Death Metal]

There's too many Randians in NS to assume that, I'm afraid.

EDIT- That was to Neutra

[Wamitoria]

There's too many Randians in NS to assume that, I'm afraid.

EDIT- That was to Neutra

No, it's Georgizm.

So, it's satire.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

That is true, majoritively. Not everything is so complicated, and by simplifying you can consider it "Ignorance" But it is in lamons... Or as the anal asshole put it "Laymons". Then irregardless, as 'glorified' of a lawyer and Author as he was, then why is it that Obama Care, which is Socialized Health Care, still supported, let alone presented by Obama? It is Unconstitutional, but I guess his Law school didn't teach him much about the Constitution.

I'm the "anal asshole" to whom you were referring, and it's still "layman's." And by the way, flaming isn't tolerated, so knock it off. (And for the record, that's Mister Asshole to you, good sir.)

Triumvirate of Mars wrote:
Alright.
1.Get an actual education

Occidental College
Columbia University (B.A.)
Harvard Law School (J.D.)
Are all schools that Barrack Obama attended. Harvard Law School does catch many eyes, however the occupancy which Obama had studied and became after Harvard was being a Lawyer, more specifically a Defendant.


And this has a bearing on how he could be a better POTUS, how exactly? Your response speaks to nothing about this whatsoever.

Last line.

You still did not answer my question. Re-stating your alleged point is indeed, pointless. (See what I did there?) And as someone so aptly pointed out, one does not go to law school to be a "defendant"; a defendant is the defending party in litigation.

This makes my mind hurt. Please do some more research.
You don't understand and your mind hurts because you don't want to understand because you already have your mind set.

Not at all. Spouting jibberish and then expecting people to understand your point, and then my objecting to said jibberish, does not constitute having a closed mindset. I invite you to make some sourced, well-presented, factual arguments, and I'm more than happy to debate said arguments. In my opinion, you have failed to do so.

3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]

While I agree with his Foreign Affairs ideals, which are evident by the continued problems with Iran and the ignoring of the war crimes in Syria, North Korea, Samalia, and world wide... He was not born in the Phillipines. Could he have been born in another nation? Yes. But he doesn't look asian to me. Thats just a hunch however...


The fact you just stated, "Could he have been born in another nation? Yes." discredits you immensely. Just sayin'.

Just saying, I do not trust Lawyers, because they are inherently taught to lie, and/or stretch the truth in a lot of cases. He presented his ID and "Proof" of his American Citizenship, even though he refuses to show it and present it to the public, only trust his chronies and the Federal Government to say "Trust me! Hes okay"

His "ID" as you call it was presented; what would it take you to believe, have him knock on your door and wave it in your face?

2.Get actual experience running something

Besides being a Senator to the state of Illinois. Military experience dealing with Leadership, or Congressional Representation, is out of his league because he never actually served with either.


OK, and how again does this impact his abilities? Must one have served in the armed forces to be POTUS? As far as I know, Clinton never served, and he proved very able.
Clinton was not good for a few soul reasons. One of them being the passing of NAFTA. Military is of course not required, but it is a good thing to have when it comes to the U.S because tools taught by the Military greatly assist in the Representing and protecting of the U.S. When this, is all the soul purpose of the government in a Republic.

Research, is generally not the problem. Its the fact of whether your willing to accept or even try and attempt to think about it.

Please explain in regards to what I have placed in bold type, how being in the military does this more proficiently, and allows one to be more able to be POTUS.

The floor is yours.

[Not Kony Run Uganda]

Well for a start he could legalize weed...

[Wamitoria]

Well for a start he could legalize weed...

Would be cool, but I don't see it happening until more than 70% of the country supports legalization.

Give it about another decade.

[Rhodmhire]

What do you think Obama can do to be a better president?Here is what I think he can do:
1.Get an actual education

He attended Columbia and Harvard, two of the four most selective schools in the U.S. and among the most revered at that. He then went on to teach at University of Chicago Law School for twelve years.

The man is very well educated. What on earth makes you think he needs to get an "actual" education? How much more "actual" does it get than that?

[Novairia]

By letting the KeyStone XL through already, we Albertans [in Canada for the geographically impaired] need that oil to flow!!!

The back log is so horrendous we are running out of storage space.. Dont make us build the refineries up here [tho I wish we would], then we could sell you refined gasoline and diesel at value added cost! Extra $ for us and less work for you [USA] if that worked out to happen.

[Wamitoria]

By letting the KeyStone XL through already, we Albertans [in Canada for the geographically impaired] need that oil to flow!!!

The back log is so horrendous we are running out of storage space.. Dont make us build the refineries up here [tho I wish we would], then we could sell you refined gasoline and diesel at value added cost! Extra $ for us and less work for you [USA] if that worked out to happen.

When you find a route that doesn't go throught the main source of all the water we use for farming in the midwestern US, we'll talk.

[Jafas United]

Well for a start he could legalize weed...

And how will that make him a better president? Leave that to Ron Paul.

[North California]

Obama should:

- Abolish the federal reserve, federal government and all its departments
- Privatise everything else
- Officially dissolve the United States of America
- Resign and be hailed as the man who freed America

All of this, and ending the wars.

[North California]

I want to answers to Operation: Fast and Furious and the killing of Anwar al-Awalki. Transparent government my ass.

[North California]

Well for a start he could legalize weed...

And how will that make him a better president? Leave that to Ron Paul.

Leave the presidency to Ron Paul too.

[Novairia]

By letting the KeyStone XL through already, we Albertans [in Canada for the geographically impaired] need that oil to flow!!!

The back log is so horrendous we are running out of storage space.. Dont make us build the refineries up here [tho I wish we would], then we could sell you refined gasoline and diesel at value added cost! Extra $ for us and less work for you [USA] if that worked out to happen.

When you find a route that doesn't go throught the main source of all the water we use for farming in the midwestern US, we'll talk.

They arnt putting it though the glaciers bud, Alberta / Saskatchewan have millions of km of various pipelines [oil, NatGas, irrigation water, ect] and the few "leaks" we have had are cleaned up within days of detection. Well trained quick treatment units is what keeps our province clean. All the "green-propaganda" about Alberta being "dirty" is very false.
We clean our messes up very very well. Look at our coal power plants, they dig it up, collect, then place the soil back, bam rooling fields of wheat, grass, and canola. The same goes with the Oil Sands, and now we have advanced the extraction tech enough that we dont even have to remove the swamp/forrest anymore. CLEAN AS F@CK!

[Hittanryan]

By letting the KeyStone XL through already, we Albertans [in Canada for the geographically impaired] need that oil to flow!!!

The back log is so horrendous we are running out of storage space.. Dont make us build the refineries up here [tho I wish we would], then we could sell you refined gasoline and diesel at value added cost! Extra $ for us and less work for you [USA] if that worked out to happen.

To be honest, I'd rather you kept your oil. Extracting oil from tar sands takes more energy from oil than you get out, and considering the increased demand from China and India and the fact that most of the oil will just get sold abroad, it's not going to lower gas prices. We need to be getting off of oil.

[Triumvirate of Mars]

Triumvirate of Mars wrote:
Triumvirate of Mars wrote:
Alright.
1.Get an actual education

Occidental College
Columbia University (B.A.)
Harvard Law School (J.D.)
Are all schools that Barrack Obama attended. Harvard Law School does catch many eyes, however the occupancy which Obama had studied and became after Harvard was being a Lawyer, more specifically a Defendant.


And this has a bearing on how he could be a better POTUS, how exactly? Your response speaks to nothing about this whatsoever.

Last line.


You still did not answer my question. Re-stating your alleged point is indeed, pointless. (See what I did there?) And as someone so aptly pointed out, one does not go to law school to be a "defendant"; a defendant is the defending party in litigation.

In terms of an everyday Citizen. Defendant was simply a term used to define a Lawyer and more specifically the position of being apart of the Defending party of a case. Sorry for unclarity.

3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]

While I agree with his Foreign Affairs ideals, which are evident by the continued problems with Iran and the ignoring of the war crimes in Syria, North Korea, Samalia, and world wide... He was not born in the Phillipines. Could he have been born in another nation? Yes. But he doesn't look asian to me. Thats just a hunch however...


The fact you just stated, "Could he have been born in another nation? Yes." discredits you immensely. Just sayin'.

Just saying, I do not trust Lawyers, because they are inherently taught to lie, and/or stretch the truth in a lot of cases. He presented his ID and "Proof" of his American Citizenship, even though he refuses to show it and present it to the public, only trust his chronies and the Federal Government to say "Trust me! Hes okay"


His "ID" as you call it was presented; what would it take you to believe, have him knock on your door and wave it in your face?

No. But not too far from it, I would like it to be presented on National T.V among allegations. Thats how I would have liked it to be handled... And you know, its nothing too unreasonable to ask for. Black out SS # and undesired information to the public that are actually personal. Have it authenticated, on recorded-live T.V. If he has nothing to hide then why would this be too difficult?

2.Get actual experience running something

Besides being a Senator to the state of Illinois. Military experience dealing with Leadership, or Congressional Representation, is out of his league because he never actually served with either.


OK, and how again does this impact his abilities? Must one have served in the armed forces to be POTUS? As far as I know, Clinton never served, and he proved very able.
Clinton was not good for a few soul reasons. One of them being the passing of NAFTA. Military is of course not required, but it is a good thing to have when it comes to the U.S because tools taught by the Military greatly assist in the Representing and protecting of the U.S. When this, is all the soul purpose of the government in a Republic.

Research, is generally not the problem. Its the fact of whether your willing to accept or even try and attempt to think about it.


Please explain in regards to what I have placed in bold type, how being in the military does this more proficiently, and allows one to be more able to be POTUS.

Besides having a Military-related Pseudo-Job. A president having Military experience would know better of how to represent and protect the U.S in these ways; Representing, because every U.S soldier, Full time and National Guard, take the oath and commitment to the U.S, to not only Defend its people (Protect) But defend their rights and represent the people of the U.S, and the U.S Constitution in these ways.

This makes my mind hurt. Please do some more research.
You don't understand and your mind hurts because you don't want to understand because you already have your mind set.


Not at all. Spouting jibberish and then expecting people to understand your point, and then my objecting to said jibberish, does not constitute having a closed mindset. I invite you to make some sourced, well-presented, factual arguments, and I'm more than happy to debate said arguments. In my opinion, you have failed to do so.

poor African American population

(http://takingnote.tcf.org/2008/11/digging-into-th.html) Relation between 2004 Election with Kerry (D) and 2008 Obama (D) showing a racial increase.

the Illegal population

(http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politi ... poll-says/) % of Hispanic/Latino population that support Obama. A exact # on illegals is impossible to do because.. Well... Their illegal? This too is only the Hispanic/Latino population. Not all Illegals are hispanic/latino. Trying to say so is a very broad general statement.

Arizona, South Carolina, and Alabama proposals to force everyone to show a identification card to prove legalize/naturalization

(http://www.state.sc.us/scsec/regis.htm) Self explanatory.

Liberalized college-going and younger-prep students

(http://online.worldmag.com/2012/03/13/c ... ort-obama/) Spend one semester in High School in todays world... Social studies, English, or Science and you will be fed bullshit. Personal account.

people support Ron Paul

(http://www.ronpaul.com/2012-ron-paul/ronpaul2012/) % in accordance between Obama and Ron Paul.

[Novairia]

By letting the KeyStone XL through already, we Albertans [in Canada for the geographically impaired] need that oil to flow!!!

The back log is so horrendous we are running out of storage space.. Dont make us build the refineries up here [tho I wish we would], then we could sell you refined gasoline and diesel at value added cost! Extra $ for us and less work for you [USA] if that worked out to happen.

To be honest, I'd rather you kept your oil. Extracting oil from tar sands takes more energy from oil than you get out, and considering the increased demand from China and India and the fact that most of the oil will just get sold abroad, it's not going to lower gas prices. We need to be getting off of oil.

LOL.. "uses more energy that what is extracted" .. you or your source under estimates the input/output ratio of the OIL SANDS.. there is no "Tar Sands" btw. Tar is sticky and would be hard to break up. This stuff is just like normal sand, but coated in OIL. Dump it in a warm water bath and the oil lets go of the sand and floats to the top, TAR does not float in water.

Green Peace termed the word "Tar Sands" only because Tar is a more negative word than Oil.

[Novairia]

Not that the KeyStone XL is not going to pass regulation after your 2012 prez election anyways. GOP or DEMO, both will push it through once the election is over and done.

ALSO, Obama could build a better wall on the mexico line. Im talking reinforced concrete with titainium internal plate, 100m below ground, 20m above, 3m tapering to 12m at ground level, with the only entry points at secure transit crossings. From ocean to ocean, not all at once, but over a 5 year timeline. Jointly funded by federal and states, all one design so as not to have construction screwups at state lines. Call it the Great Wall of America.. tourist attraction once Mexico [if ever] fixes its proverty and gangwar problems.

[Hittanryan]

To be honest, I'd rather you kept your oil. Extracting oil from tar sands takes more energy from oil than you get out, and considering the increased demand from China and India and the fact that most of the oil will just get sold abroad, it's not going to lower gas prices. We need to be getting off of oil.

LOL.. "uses more energy that what is extracted" .. you or your source under estimates the input/output ratio of the OIL SANDS.. there is no "Tar Sands" btw. Tar is sticky and would be hard to break up. This stuff is just like normal sand, but coated in OIL. Dump it in a warm water bath and the oil lets go of the sand and floats to the top, TAR does not float in water.

Green Peace termed the word "Tar Sands" only because Tar is a more negative word than Oil.

So, where are the oil sands located? The answer, as it turns out, is often several meters below the surface. That means you're expending energy clearing away forests and excavating tons of soil and peat just to gain access to the sands. Once you have it, how much energy does it take heat the water? Then, factor in that there's only one barrel of oil in two tons of oil sands.

Keep your inefficient muck. It won't bring gas prices down anyway.

[Death Metal]

Leave the presidency to Ron Paul too.

Ron Paul is the worst possible choice.

Comparing Obama to Ron Paul is like comparing Lincoln to Pol Pot.

[Triumvirate of Mars]

Leave the presidency to Ron Paul too.

Ron Paul is the worst possible choice.

Comparing Obama to Ron Paul is like comparing Lincoln to Pol Pot.

I'd relate Lincoln to any dictator and unconstitutional advocate of non-freedom.