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Postby Georgizm » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:15 am

Obama should:

- Abolish the federal reserve, federal government and all its departments
- Privatise everything else
- Officially dissolve the United States of America
- Resign and be hailed as the man who freed America
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:36 am

Get an actual education? Didn't he graduate from a top law university (I think Harvard)?
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:50 am

Georgizm wrote:Obama should:

- Abolish the federal reserve, federal government and all its departments
- Privatise everything else
- Officially dissolve the United States of America
- Resign and be hailed as the man who freed America


Hilariously if he actually made moves to do that the Republicans would suddenly find reasons to oppose them.
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Postby Briana Novak » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:18 am

Cavalstan wrote:What do you think Obama can do to be a better president?Here is what I think he can do:
1.Get an actual education
2.Get actual experience running something
3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]
4.[and alot of people agree with this]Drop dead

He can impeach himslef
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:22 am

Briana Novak wrote:
Cavalstan wrote:What do you think Obama can do to be a better president?Here is what I think he can do:
1.Get an actual education
2.Get actual experience running something
3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]
4.[and alot of people agree with this]Drop dead

He can impeach himslef

Actually, he can't.
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Postby The Anti-Cosmic Gods » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:29 am

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Astralsideria wrote:
I'm only British, so I may have missed something, but I was fairly sure that Columbia University and Harvard Law School provided a real education, that being a community organiser meant he had run things, that business normally teaches about business rather than foreign affairs, that he was born on Hawaii (as a Filipino birth would make him ineligible for the Presidency under the citizenship-requirement clause of Article 2 Section 1, I thought), and that dead men tend to make rather useless heads of state. Then again, as I've said, that's just me :blush:


No, you pretty much nailed it. Also he had to actually earn his way to Harvard and Columbia as he wasn't a legacy. Which not only means he did earn his education, but also has the real world experience from not having lived a privileged life like Bush 43 did.



That fancy book learnin's is for libruhls, faggots, and sissies.

Obama could stop trying to compromise with the GOP. That'd be his best call.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:33 am

Georgizm wrote:Obama should:

- Abolish the federal reserve, federal government and all its departments
- Privatise everything else
- Officially dissolve the United States of America
- Resign and be hailed as the man who freed America

1. No single branch of the US government can dissolve the whole thing.
2. He'd be hailed as a hero by CEOs and armchair libertarians, everyone else would be out for his blood. After a week or two of seeing what an all private country is really like, the armchair libertarians would join the rest of the people out for his blood.
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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:03 pm

Stop trying to compromise with people who oppose everything even after being given everything they asked for.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:32 pm

Cavalstan wrote:What do you think Obama can do to be a better president?Here is what I think he can do:
1.Get an actual education
2.Get actual experience running something
3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]
4.[and alot of people agree with this]Drop dead


How about....

(1) Stop being a neoconservative chickenhawk;
(2) Stop being a corporate whore; and
(3) Stop caving to the Republicans every time one of them calls him a bad name?
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:36 pm

1. stop being a wishy washy liberal
2. be socialist. gahahahaha.
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:37 pm

j/k obama isn't even liberal
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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:41 pm

He should stop giving in to Republican pressure.

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Postby Simon Cowell of the RR » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:42 pm

Cavalstan wrote:What do you think Obama can do to be a better president?Here is what I think he can do:
1.Get an actual education

True. Columbia and Harvard Law. What an idiot.
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Postby The Anti-Cosmic Gods » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:44 pm

Simon Cowell of the RR wrote:
Cavalstan wrote:What do you think Obama can do to be a better president?Here is what I think he can do:
1.Get an actual education

True. Columbia and Harvard Law. What an idiot.



Thats my favorite one, considering Obama's education is probably more "genuine" and superior to the education of 99% of everyone on NSG. Certainly more so than the OP's. I bet he at least was taught to put a space between punctuation and your next sentence.
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Postby United State of America » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:44 pm

Obama could be a better president by not advocating torture as well as not surrendering the Republicans at almost every opportunity.

That's like, a millions times better than whatever the hell you think of him.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:46 pm

Cavalstan wrote:What do you think Obama can do to be a better president?Here is what I think he can do:
1.Get an actual education
2.Get actual experience running something
3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]
4.[and alot of people agree with this]Drop dead


Wow, so little posts, such a big troll already.

The Dark Side is strong in this one!

(PS: Your make null and void points. Please try again.)
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Postby Triumvirate of Mars » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:56 pm

Its alright. They don't really understand lamens terms. What you generally said coincides with how he is and how he has acted. No matter how difficult it can be to prove it, we all know what is right and wrong. The people who have gone against what you say are simple Obama and liberal supporters who refuse to talk about the issue and concentrates on personal attacks.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:01 pm

Triumvirate of Mars wrote:Its alright. They don't really understand lamens terms. What you generally said coincides with how he is and how he has acted. No matter how difficult it can be to prove it, we all know what is right and wrong. The people who have gone against what you say are simple Obama and liberal supporters who refuse to talk about the issue and concentrates on personal attacks.
Examples of this; Concentrating on the fact that its on the wrong forums and not presenting any proof to their points. And another example of this, away from Nation States, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coBpxi091To (Start; 0:22 - End; 1:40).


You're right, we don't understand lamens terms; we do however understand layman's terms.

If you happen to support what the op wrote, I'd ask you to support how any of what he suggested would be demonstrably effective, or true.

And, go.
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Postby Triumvirate of Mars » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:38 pm

Alright.
1.Get an actual education

Occidental College
Columbia University (B.A.)
Harvard Law School (J.D.)
Are all schools that Barrack Obama attended. Harvard Law School does catch many eyes, however the occupancy which Obama had studied and became after Harvard was being a Lawyer, more specifically a Defendant.

2.Get actual experience running something

Besides being a Senator to the state of Illinois. Military experience dealing with Leadership, or Congressional Representation, is out of his league because he never actually served with either.

3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]

While I agree with his Foreign Affairs ideals, which are evident by the continued problems with Iran and the ignoring of the war crimes in Syria, North Korea, Samalia, and world wide... He was not born in the Phillipines. Could he have been born in another nation? Yes. But he doesn't look asian to me. Thats just a hunch however...

4.[and alot of people agree with this]Drop dead

A lot of people do infact agree with these viewpoints, a lot of the actual American citizens. The people who do not support this, however, are under a majority of the poor African American population (Supporting my statement that the only racism there is in todays world are the Blacks now), the Illegal population, which has been shown through the Arizona, South Carolina, and Alabama proposals to force everyone to show a identification card to prove legalize/naturalization. This has been fiercely opposed by Obama and the left. And the Liberalized college-going and younger-prep students. Even though a large majority, by far than any other candidate, people support Ron Paul. But he doesn't have delegates and apparently does not have any more support. (Even though he has more support from the actual people of the U.S than any other candidate.)


Now. Dealing with Lawyers, if you know anything about law in your own common knowledge.. What are Lawyers? Defendants, don't be mistaken by District Attorneys who are the Prosecuters, both technically lawyers but Defendants are a different story. I INFACT hate the idea of having a Lawyer as a politician. Why? Because it means, and proves, that Barrack Obama has the ability to honestly-Lie to the American people, which he has been doing. Why again? Because Defendants often have to defend people that they may even know as a fact that they are guilty.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:05 pm

Triumvirate of Mars wrote:Alright.
1.Get an actual education

Occidental College
Columbia University (B.A.)
Harvard Law School (J.D.)
Are all schools that Barrack Obama attended. Harvard Law School does catch many eyes, however the occupancy which Obama had studied and became after Harvard was being a Lawyer, more specifically a Defendant.


And this has a bearing on how he could be a better POTUS, how exactly? Your response speaks to nothing about this whatsoever.

2.Get actual experience running something

Besides being a Senator to the state of Illinois. Military experience dealing with Leadership, or Congressional Representation, is out of his league because he never actually served with either.


OK, and how again does this impact his abilities? Must one have served in the armed forces to be POTUS? As far as I know, Clinton never served, and he proved very able.

3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]

While I agree with his Foreign Affairs ideals, which are evident by the continued problems with Iran and the ignoring of the war crimes in Syria, North Korea, Samalia, and world wide... He was not born in the Phillipines. Could he have been born in another nation? Yes. But he doesn't look asian to me. Thats just a hunch however...


The fact you just stated, "Could he have been born in another nation? Yes." discredits you immensely. Just sayin'.

4.[and alot of people agree with this]Drop dead
A lot of people do infact agree with these viewpoints, a lot of the actual American citizens. The people who do not support this, however, are under a majority of the poor African American population (Supporting my statement that the only racism there is in todays world are the Blacks now), the Illegal population, which has been shown through the Arizona, South Carolina, and Alabama proposals to force everyone to show a identification card to prove legalize/naturalization. This has been fiercely opposed by Obama and the left. And the Liberalized college-going and younger-prep students. Even though a large majority, by far than any other candidate, people support Ron Paul. But he doesn't have delegates and apparently does not have any more support. (Even though he has more support from the actual people of the U.S than any other candidate.)


Now. Dealing with Lawyers, if you know anything about law in your own common knowledge.. What are Lawyers? Defendants, don't be mistaken by District Attorneys who are the Prosecuters, both technically lawyers but Defendants are a different story. I INFACT hate the idea of having a Lawyer as a politician. Why? Because it means, and proves, that Barrack Obama has the ability to honestly-Lie to the American people, which he has been doing. Why again? Because Defendants often have to defend people that they may even know as a fact that they are guilty.


This makes my mind hurt. Please do some more research.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:00 pm

1. He could wear a wizard's cape and hat at State of the Union addresses for more.. magic!
2. Nicknames, Bush was good at them, more 'Yo Sarky ma man.. and 'Whassup Cameroni, my brother from....etc.,'
3. Ring up world leaders and say in a monotone voice 'I must push the red button', just to freak them out.
4. In official photos, rabbit fingers above Biden or Clinton's head

I can think of loads more..
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Postby Vurran » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:25 pm

Be tougher on his stances. Other than that, nothing.

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Postby Triumvirate of Mars » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:43 pm

Triumvirate of Mars wrote:
Alright.
1.Get an actual education

Occidental College
Columbia University (B.A.)
Harvard Law School (J.D.)
Are all schools that Barrack Obama attended. Harvard Law School does catch many eyes, however the occupancy which Obama had studied and became after Harvard was being a Lawyer, more specifically a Defendant.


And this has a bearing on how he could be a better POTUS, how exactly? Your response speaks to nothing about this whatsoever.

Last line.
This makes my mind hurt. Please do some more research.

You don't understand and your mind hurts because you don't want to understand because you already have your mind set.

3.Join a business to get experience in foreign affairs[and he thinks just because he was born in the Phillippinnes means he has experience in foreign affairs]

While I agree with his Foreign Affairs ideals, which are evident by the continued problems with Iran and the ignoring of the war crimes in Syria, North Korea, Samalia, and world wide... He was not born in the Phillipines. Could he have been born in another nation? Yes. But he doesn't look asian to me. Thats just a hunch however...


The fact you just stated, "Could he have been born in another nation? Yes." discredits you immensely. Just sayin'.

Just saying, I do not trust Lawyers, because they are inherently taught to lie, and/or stretch the truth in a lot of cases. He presented his ID and "Proof" of his American Citizenship, even though he refuses to show it and present it to the public, only trust his chronies and the Federal Government to say "Trust me! Hes okay"

2.Get actual experience running something

Besides being a Senator to the state of Illinois. Military experience dealing with Leadership, or Congressional Representation, is out of his league because he never actually served with either.


OK, and how again does this impact his abilities? Must one have served in the armed forces to be POTUS? As far as I know, Clinton never served, and he proved very able.

Clinton was not good for a few soul reasons. One of them being the passing of NAFTA. Military is of course not required, but it is a good thing to have when it comes to the U.S because tools taught by the Military greatly assist in the Representing and protecting of the U.S. When this, is all the soul purpose of the government in a Republic.

Research, is generally not the problem. Its the fact of whether your willing to accept or even try and attempt to think about it.
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Postby Simon Cowell of the RR » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:55 pm

Triumvirate of Mars wrote:Now. Dealing with Lawyers, if you know anything about law in your own common knowledge.. What are Lawyers? Defendants, don't be mistaken by District Attorneys who are the Prosecuters, both technically lawyers but Defendants are a different story. I INFACT hate the idea of having a Lawyer as a politician. Why? Because it means, and proves, that Barrack Obama has the ability to honestly-Lie to the American people, which he has been doing. Why again? Because Defendants often have to defend people that they may even know as a fact that they are guilty.

I actually do "know anything" about law, but clearly you do not.
You do not go to Law school to be a "Defendant", as you so weirdly said it. In L1, all are indistinguishable. After that, the President focused on ConLaw and ended up taking a teaching position, along with writing his surprisingly insightful books.
Next, lawyers are not trained to lie. That is, to beat around the bush, an incredibly stupid opinion. A lawyer who is caught lying is censured/disbarred. You can hold your ignorant opinions, but do not lambast an entire portion of the population based on baseless simplicity. Besides, many people lie. George Bush, decidedly not a lawyer, told the entire nation there were WMDs in Iraq.
And Defendants do not defend people. Defense attorneys do. The defendant is the person charged with the crime. His attorney would be referred to as "Counsel for the Defense". And if said Counsel is ever informed by the Defendant that the Defendant is indeed guilty, he has to rescind himself from the case. Also, even if a person is guilty, it is our Constitutional right as Americans to be granted Counsel and a trial. If anything, the President ought to be commended for choosing such a mentally grueling position to take.
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Postby Death Metal » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:02 pm

Georgizm wrote:Obama should:

- Abolish the federal reserve, federal government and all its departments
- Privatise everything else
- Officially dissolve the United States of America
- Resign and be hailed as the man who freed America


No.

Privatization everything is a gateway to enslavement, not freedom.

And dissolving a nation and replacing it's government with nothing? Yes, because that works so well for Somalia, right?

Also the Fed is the backbone of economy, and a solid, secure backbone. To get rid of it would to have no economy. Then your private businesses have no value, no worth. You ruin your own plan just by implementing it.
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