Porn star allowed to become teacher

[Katganistan]

Technically it gets turned into Jesus Blood during the ceremony. This along with the wafers turning into his flesh technically makes the ritual of communion an act of symbolic cannibalism. Unless of course Jesus was an alien.

Not symbolic, strictly speaking catholics believe that it literally (not figuratively) becomes the flesh and blood of jesus as they eating. So the cannibalism in the ritual is literal.

Really? Because it still tastes like a sticky flavorless wafer and wine to me.

[Wikkiwallana]

Let me put it this way...would you support a university if it appointed a devoted Christian to teach about evolution?

Sure. I've a great many devoted Christians who are fully capable of understanding the difference between science and religion.

Where do you keep them, and why are you hoarding them all to yourself?

[Katganistan]

Well, there's not much of a point with me arguing with any of you since it's clear that there's an inherent difference in attitudes about what characteristics make someone fit or unfit to be a teacher.

So, maybe this will help you all see... Where do you draw the line at unfit. What does someone have to do to be unfit to teach?

When he has committed an actual crime that renders him unfit to teach. If he lacks the proper credentials to teach. If he is really, really bad at teaching. If he is abusive. If he is often truant.


None of the above true? Let him teach and mind your business.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

Not symbolic, strictly speaking catholics believe that it literally (not figuratively) becomes the flesh and blood of jesus as they eating. So the cannibalism in the ritual is literal.

Really? Because it still tastes like a sticky flavorless wafer and wine to me.

Just so happens Jesus' flesh and blood happened to taste exactly like bread and wine.

shhh! the papal assassins will get you if you aren't careful

[Takaram]

Really? Because it still tastes like a sticky flavorless wafer and wine to me.

Just so happens Jesus' flesh and blood happened to taste exactly like bread and wine.

shhh! the papal assassins will get you if you aren't careful

Only if you're a fan of transubstantiation. Consubstantiation holds that it is merely a symbolic gesture.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

Just so happens Jesus' flesh and blood happened to taste exactly like bread and wine.

shhh! the papal assassins will get you if you aren't careful

Only if you're a fan of transubstantiation. Consubstantiation holds that it is merely a symbolic gesture.

I dunno if "fan" is the right word. I'm not shaking pompoms and going "woo! Blood-from-wine! Blood-from-wine!"

[Katganistan]

Answer my other question, are you admitting there is literally no reason to stop him being a teacher?

And I can't really pull every single instance where one might not be desirable to teach off the top of my head, why, where are you going with this?

How about recovering drug addicts/alcoholics... people with mental illnesses...

I'm trying to find the "grey area." You know, the area where you can't really logically justify your position, but your gut tells you otherwise.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about then, congratulations, I guess you make your decisions based 100% on logic and reasoning.

You can't discriminate based on illness if it's treated and controlled.

[Takaram]

Only if you're a fan of transubstantiation. Consubstantiation holds that it is merely a symbolic gesture.

I dunno if "fan" is the right word. I'm not shaking pompoms and going "woo! Blood-from-wine! Blood-from-wine!"

Well, I never said you were a cheerleader.
But you may be right. My definition of consubstantiation is probably lacking a bit of depth too.

[Wikkiwallana]

I'm more worried about all the students asking him for tips on how to get into the biz...

I imagine he'd tell them to shut up and get back to maths.

I can guarantee he wouldn't. We don't put an "s" on "math" in this country.

[Person012345]

Not symbolic, strictly speaking catholics believe that it literally (not figuratively) becomes the flesh and blood of jesus as they eating. So the cannibalism in the ritual is literal.

Really? Because it still tastes like a sticky flavorless wafer and wine to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist#Catholic

The Catholic Church teaches that when the bread and wine are consecrated in the Eucharist, they cease to be bread and wine, and become, respectively, the body and blood of Christ, each of which is accompanied by the other and by Christ's soul and divinity. The empirical appearance and physical properties are not changed, but for Catholics, the reality is.

Not sure if you were disagreeing with me, but yeah, /irrationality.

[Astrolinium]

Really? Because it still tastes like a sticky flavorless wafer and wine to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist#Catholic

The Catholic Church teaches that when the bread and wine are consecrated in the Eucharist, they cease to be bread and wine, and become, respectively, the body and blood of Christ, each of which is accompanied by the other and by Christ's soul and divinity. The empirical appearance and physical properties are not changed, but for Catholics, the reality is.

Not sure if you were disagreeing with me, but yeah, /irrationality.

**shakes fist**
Those crazy Christians! Jupiter will never stand for this!

[Wikkiwallana]

Let me put it this way...would you support a university if it appointed a devoted Christian to teach about evolution?

Do you have the slightest clue of the religion of the man who proposed the theory of evolution?

I recently saw someone claim Darwin came up with his idea because he was angry at the church and wanted to attack it.

[Takaram]

Do you have the slightest clue of the religion of the man who proposed the theory of evolution?

I recently saw someone claim Darwin came up with his idea because he was angry at the church and wanted to attack it.

Yeah, and I've seen claims of a deathbed 'conversion' from his belief in his own theories. So?

[Wikkiwallana]

dailymail.co.uk

+1 hysteria!

illegal-Gay-porn

+1 hysteria!

...wait for it...

+1 hysteria!

:palm:

+1 hysteria!

tries to defend his actions

+1 hysteria!

do we want

+1 hysteria!

little children

+1 hysteria!

All hysteria gathered, Moral Panic Achieved! 200 pts

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

All hysteria gathered, Moral Panic Achieved! 200 pts

I'd suggest we treat it, but... well, there's only one way to treat hysteria and I don't know if we're going to get anyone willing enough to do it.

[Kazomal]

Sure. I've a great many devoted Christians who are fully capable of understanding the difference between science and religion.

Where do you keep them, and why are you hoarding them all to yourself?

::Raises hand:: Here's one, at least.

No need to engage in group-hate and stereotyping.

[Wikkiwallana]

Well, there's not much of a point with me arguing with any of you since it's clear that there's an inherent difference in attitudes about what characteristics make someone fit or unfit to be a teacher.

So, maybe this will help you all see... Where do you draw the line at unfit. What does someone have to do to be unfit to teach?

Violent crime.

[Wikkiwallana]

You continue to avoid the question. What about this man's personality or abilities make him a bad teacher? What does having been in porn tell you about him that makes you think he is unfit to be a teacher?

Yes, I'm avoiding the question because it can't be answered! (Now, quit with that, it's annoying)

The OP is right, the argument is based on emotion, not reason.

Which means it's a flawed argument for most things other than the quality of a work of fiction or not trowing something out.

[Socialdemokraterne]

My point is that everyone's nonchalant "Oh well, what do you think he's going to do?" attitude might not hold up if they actually had to send a child into a classroom with a "porn star".

But, I guess I could be wrong... I guess people's emotions don't really play as much of a factor in shaping their attitudes as much as I thought.

I practice my principles. Were it otherwise how could I honestly claim them as my principles?

If I believe that a person should be penalized for what they do rather than what they might do, don't be surprised if that's how I analyze a situation in my own back yard. A convicted child molester as a teacher is something I'd object to. A porn star becoming a teacher is not inherently dangerous. The person's previous career, while unorthodox, does not alone merit my suspicion. An actual, tangible history of behavior which directly places children at risk is required before I'll draw my sword on this one.

[Saint Jade IV]

yeah, i would HATE to be attractive enough to be paid thousands of dollars to get laid.

just absolutely AWFUL.

Do you know how much their bodies get wrecked over the years?

My father left school at year 10 and has done a backbreaking labour intensive job for 30 odd years. His knees are shot, his hands are riddled with arthritis, his back discs are fusing together. He was not a porn star (I hope). Is the body trauma he experienced less scarring than that of a porn star because it wasn't related to sex?

[Ceannairceach]

Do you know how much their bodies get wrecked over the years?

My father left school at year 10 and has done a backbreaking labour intensive job for 30 odd years. His knees are shot, his hands are riddled with arthritis, his back discs are fusing together. He was not a porn star (I hope). Is the body trauma he experienced less scarring than that of a porn star because it wasn't related to sex?

I don't quite see how his post is at all suggesting that other works don't damage the body. Mind explaining how it does?

[Idealismania]

In a way it might be very good for an ex-pornstar to be a teacher. If a pornstar decideds to quit the profession and teach instead either teaching is very awesome or being a pornstar isn't as awesome as it seems like it would be. As long as he's a good teacher and isn't trying to encourage kids to get into porn, I don't see what the problem is. Although I don't think everything that is legal is ok to do (and some things that are illegal seem perfectly moral to do) so his argument that what he did was ok since it was legal holds no weight to me, but like I said as long as he's a good teacher and isn't trying to make pornstars out of the kids, I don't see why it would matter in the first place. I would feel the same way about people that did illegal activities as well like convicted cocaine users; if they don't do it any more, they're good teachers, and they won't encourage drug use, then why not let them teach?

Having teachers that are dedicated and actually have some real world experiences seems like what we really need right now; not more cookie-cutter fresh college grads that have almost no real world experience and have had almost everything they've ever had just handed to them by their parents.

[Wikkiwallana]

Not symbolic, strictly speaking catholics believe that it literally (not figuratively) becomes the flesh and blood of jesus as they eating. So the cannibalism in the ritual is literal.

Really? Because it still tastes like a sticky flavorless wafer and wine to me.

The churches I went to used this crumbly cracker thing, they were delicious and I wish I knew the recipes.

[Spreewerke]

He teaches maths. I don't know how gay porn could possibly come up in a maths class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obIGsb-IZMo

[Wikkiwallana]

I recently saw someone claim Darwin came up with his idea because he was angry at the church and wanted to attack it.

Yeah, and I've seen claims of a deathbed 'conversion' from his belief in his own theories. So?

Just pointing out that asking that question may leave you depressed.