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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:18 am

League of Christ wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Seriously, why are the most privileged groups always the ones with the biggest persecution complexes? White people are always paranoid that everyone's out to get them. Men are scared shitless that feminism will result in mandatory castration. Straight people are terrified that they'll be forced to be gay. Christians think it's persecution when they aren't allowed to force everyone else to follow their religion.


Because by not following Christianity you are not only condemning yourself, but the entire world to damnation! For goodness sake, atheists are ludicrously idiotic.


And depressing. And they listen to jazz. We get it.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:18 am

League of Christ wrote:
Jormengand wrote:And he forgot to mention freedom of thought, gays, objective morality, sanity...


Homosexuals are fine, they are not allowed to engage in homosexual coitus, however their existence is not bad.

Christianity is centred around morality, and anything OTHER than Christianity is INsanity.

Coitus refers specifically to penis-in-vagina sex, Dr. Cooper, the gays aren't interested.
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Postby Luna Amore » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:18 am

I like the way atheists are only number 9 on that list of things that would disappear if atheism were eradicated. Figure they'd be right at #1.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:18 am

League of Christ wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Seriously, why are the most privileged groups always the ones with the biggest persecution complexes? White people are always paranoid that everyone's out to get them. Men are scared shitless that feminism will result in mandatory castration. Straight people are terrified that they'll be forced to be gay. Christians think it's persecution when they aren't allowed to force everyone else to follow their religion.


Because by not following Christianity you are not only condemning yourself, but the entire world to damnation! For goodness sake, atheists are ludicrously idiotic.


No we aren't. Your particular magical talking sky fairy doesn't exist any more than anybody else's does. You are also skirting dangerously close to the limits of flaming, and I would advise you to read the site rules before continuing.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:18 am

Who else thinks we're just being trolled, and that he doesn't really believe a damn word he's saying?
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby League of Christ » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:19 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
League of Christ wrote:Christianity is centred around morality.


Anything which condones slavery, looks the other way on rape, condemns people to death for working on the wrong day of the week, and advocates beating children and subjugating women isn't morality. It's bronze age barbarism.


Christianity does not advocate those things, historical leaders did.

We are in the 21st century, and as conditions in the world change, religion is applicable in different ways.

It's all relative, back then you could be branded with a hot iron for stealing a loaf of bread, so it made sense that if that was the case for such a minor crime, forsaking the Lord was worthy of death.

Now, stealing a loaf of bread gets you a shouting at by Mr. Patel down the corner shop so forsaking the lord should result in re-education and segregation.

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Postby Jormengand » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:20 am

League of Christ wrote:Because by not following Christianity you are not only condemning yourself, but the entire world to damnation!

How so? It doesn't make sense that a religeon that condones slavery and killing, turns a blind eye to rape and condemns freedoms, common sense, blacks, gays, anyone who doesn't follow it, anyone who wears the wrong fucking clothes should be the only allowed religeon.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:20 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
League of Christ wrote:Because by not following Christianity you are not only condemning yourself, but the entire world to damnation!


I'm ignoring your insult. Okay, so how does my lack of belief in your specific deity cause everyone around me to be damned?

Atheation. An insidious form of radiation that destroy honest, Christian values. Closely related to gaydiation.
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What do we have that they should want?
We have a wall to work upon!
We have work and they have none
And our work is never done
My children, my children
And the war is never won

The enemy is poverty
And the wall keeps out the enemy
And we build the wall to keep us free
That's why we build the wall
We build the wall to keep us free
We build the wall to keep us free

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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:21 am

League of Christ wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Anything which condones slavery, looks the other way on rape, condemns people to death for working on the wrong day of the week, and advocates beating children and subjugating women isn't morality. It's bronze age barbarism.


Christianity does not advocate those things, historical leaders did.

We are in the 21st century, and as conditions in the world change, religion is applicable in different ways.

It's all relative, back then you could be branded with a hot iron for stealing a loaf of bread, so it made sense that if that was the case for such a minor crime, forsaking the Lord was worthy of death.

Now, stealing a loaf of bread gets you a shouting at by Mr. Patel down the corner shop so forsaking the lord should result in re-education and segregation.


No, attempting to force your bullshit beliefs on others should result in re-education and segregation.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:21 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Who else thinks we're just being trolled, and that he doesn't really believe a damn word he's saying?

Everyone, even people on other forums.
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What do we have that they should want?
We have a wall to work upon!
We have work and they have none
And our work is never done
My children, my children
And the war is never won

The enemy is poverty
And the wall keeps out the enemy
And we build the wall to keep us free
That's why we build the wall
We build the wall to keep us free
We build the wall to keep us free

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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:21 am

League of Christ wrote:Christianity does not advocate those things, historical leaders did.

We are in the 21st century, and as conditions in the world change, religion is applicable in different ways.

It's all relative, back then you could be branded with a hot iron for stealing a loaf of bread, so it made sense that if that was the case for such a minor crime, forsaking the Lord was worthy of death.

Now, stealing a loaf of bread gets you a shouting at by Mr. Patel down the corner shop so forsaking the lord should result in re-education and segregation.


Wait, so you're advocating moral relativism?

Yeah, I'm 90% certain this is a troll.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:21 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Who else thinks we're just being trolled, and that he doesn't really believe a damn word he's saying?


Minimalist post count, limited number of post, all controversial, familiarity with forum quoting practises on a single digit nation.

Almost certainly a puppet.

Inconsistent message, based on often conflicting understanding of the subject matter. Trolling looks likely.


It makes me feel old... in my day, even the trolls were better.
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Postby Jormengand » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:22 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:It makes me feel old... in my day, even the trolls were better.

I need someone to argue with, and be right. It's all good.
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:22 am

Ifreann wrote:Atheation. An insidious form of radiation that destroy honest, Christian values. Closely related to gaydiation.


Oh gaydiation, the release of faggon particles which happens whenever gays "settle down" and therefore enter a lower energy state.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Luna Amore » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:23 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:Who else thinks we're just being trolled, and that he doesn't really believe a damn word he's saying?

Oh, most definitely.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:23 am

Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Atheation. An insidious form of radiation that destroy honest, Christian values. Closely related to gaydiation.


Oh gaydiation, the release of faggon particles which happens whenever gays "settle down" and therefore enter a lower energy state.


'Faggon'? Such a missed opportunity.

What would have been wrong with 'erectrons'?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:25 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Four-sided Triangles wrote:
Oh gaydiation, the release of faggon particles which happens whenever gays "settle down" and therefore enter a lower energy state.


'Faggon'? Such a missed opportunity.

What would have been wrong with 'erectrons'?

I was expecting something about the anti-particle of the Higgs Boson. The there's-no-god particle.
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What do we have that they should want?
We have a wall to work upon!
We have work and they have none
And our work is never done
My children, my children
And the war is never won

The enemy is poverty
And the wall keeps out the enemy
And we build the wall to keep us free
That's why we build the wall
We build the wall to keep us free
We build the wall to keep us free

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:27 am

As an Atheist I agree with this. Some atheists call things "immoral" with no basis for their morality, which I find absurd. Old-fashioned universal law morality requires a force like Karma or a deity like Allah. Which have no proof of their existence.
You are allowed to sin but if you do apparently you will be punished but the punishment is not proven to exist. You will be shinned or punished by society but that is not morality as a universal law it is a norm, a law of society, it is a different thing altogether. Being burnt at the stake is proven to exist but being burnt in hell is not.
My morality is what is "do what's good for the species" this can be proven, you are able and allowed to kill really, but if you kill some one the population decreases, it is bad for the species.
But for a mantis that kills and eats its mate after sex, it may looks wrong at first but it provides nutrients for her to have healthy children which is good for the species therefore for a mantis killing and eating its mate after sex is "good"
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:27 am

Ifreann wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
'Faggon'? Such a missed opportunity.

What would have been wrong with 'erectrons'?

I was expecting something about the anti-particle of the Higgs Boson. The there's-no-god particle.


If there's one thing I learned from Solaris, it's that you can kill God with a negative Higgs field.

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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:27 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:'Faggon'? Such a missed opportunity.

What would have been wrong with 'erectrons'?


Gays are erectrons. They interact via the exchange of virtual spin 2 faggons. Faggons are spin 2 because spin 2 is the highest amount of spin a fundamental particle can have and, as we all know, liberals love their spin. The exchange of virtual spin 2 particles causes a force of attraction between similarly coupled objects, which is why them there queers are so sexually promiscuous. It's all very scientific.
This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby Jormengand » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:29 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:If there's one thing I learned from Solaris, it's that you can kill God with a negative Higgs field.

*nods*

Frederich Nietze would have a field day with this. Yes, that was bad.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:31 am

Jormengand wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:If there's one thing I learned from Solaris, it's that you can kill God with a negative Higgs field.

*nods*

Frederich Nietze would have a field day with this.


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Would you then consider vaccinations wrong because it hurts getting a shot?

Not so. They barely hurt at all and they are very important. Plus they give you lollipops.

Where have you been getting your vaccinations? I never got a lollipop when I got shots!
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Postby Four-sided Triangles » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:33 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:And depressing. And they listen to jazz. We get it.


Behold! This is truly the soundtrack of hell.
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This is why gay marriage will destroy American families.
Gays are made up of gaytrinos and they interact via faggons, which are massless spin 2 particles. They're massless because gays care so much about their weight, and have spin 2, cause that's as much spin as particles can get, and liberals love spin. The exchange of spin 2 particles creates an attractive force between objects, which is why gays are so promiscuous. When gays get "settle down" into a lower energy state by marrying, they release faggon particles in the form of gaydiation. Everyone is a little bit gay, so every human body has some gaytrinos in it, meaning that the gaydiation could cause straight people to be attracted to gays and choose to turn gay.

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Postby AustriaHungaryBohemia » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:34 am

League of Christ wrote:
Now, stealing a loaf of bread gets you a shouting at by Mr. Patel down the corner shop so forsaking the lord should result in re-education and segregation.


Which lord, though? Odin? Zeus? Vishnu? The Invisible Pink Unicorn? Stalin?
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