ANZG: The Trans-Tasman Thread

[Meowfoundland]

How predictable. The Green Left cries police brutality and ignores the messages and motives of the protestors and rioters, Andrew Bolt uses it as evidence that multiculturalism has failed "we let them in and now they threaten us".

Balance is and sensible thought is way too much for ask for right?

Yes.

I kind of assumed that people who decided to live here would respect freedom of speech and the like, not call for head-chopping of people who insult their religion. Alas, I am wrong.

Meanwhile, football finals. Much more important than boring riots in such unimportant places as Sydney, right?

I stopped paying attention when the Bulldogs lost in the only game I went to this season. My only wish is that Collingwood don't win.

[New Chalcedon]

How predictable. The Green Left cries police brutality and ignores the messages and motives of the protestors and rioters, Andrew Bolt uses it as evidence that multiculturalism has failed "we let them in and now they threaten us".

Balance is and sensible thought is way too much for ask for right?

Well, they are predictable: predictably wrong.

It's depressing - as a centre-left person, my only halfway useful sources of news are crikey.com and the ABC. The corporate media is right-wing and inaccurate, and the various nontraditional publications are left-wing and inaccurate

Yes.

I kind of assumed that people who decided to live here would respect freedom of speech and the like, not call for head-chopping of people who insult their religion. Alas, I am wrong.

Meanwhile, football finals. Much more important than boring riots in such unimportant places as Sydney, right?

The Dragons are out. I don't care anymore.

So long as Melbourne don't win. Or Manly if it can be helped.

The other game doesn't matter.

Feeling sore there, Forster?

[Forster Keys]

How predictable. The Green Left cries police brutality and ignores the messages and motives of the protestors and rioters, Andrew Bolt uses it as evidence that multiculturalism has failed "we let them in and now they threaten us".

Balance is and sensible thought is way too much for ask for right?

Well, they are predictable: predictably wrong.

It's depressing - as a centre-left person, my only halfway useful sources of news are crikey.com and the ABC. The corporate media is right-wing and inaccurate, and the various nontraditional publications are left-wing and inaccurate

Exactly. I've been speaking with my fellow socialists. Apparently holding Wahabi protestors accountable for violence and vandalism is counter-revolutionary. We need to stand in solidarity with these Islamic fundamentalists! I'm sure a global caliphate and a classless, stateless utopia are inherently intertwined. :/

Feeling sore there, Forster?

*grumble grumble grumble*

[Costa Alegria]

It's depressing - as a centre-left person, my only halfway useful sources of news are crikey.com and the ABC. The corporate media is right-wing and inaccurate, and the various nontraditional publications are left-wing and inaccurate

We have the same problem with politics in New Zealand. National claims to be centre-right but it is nowhere near that, although I do appreciate that they are trying to get people back to work again. I don't appreciate their "Americanisation" of the education system.

Same thing goes for Labour. I like their ideas behind education and social welfare, but their ideas for programs like how to combat alcohol are ridiculous. Banning advertising isn't going to solve anything and they have become more reactionary in their politics over the years, with no new ideas.

There are centrist parties in New Zealand, but all of them are social conservatives and therefore no-go areas in terms of votes.

[South Norwega]

I stopped paying attention when the Bulldogs lost in the only game I went to this season. My only wish is that Collingwood don't win.

I have slowly gained a bizarre liking of Collingwood this year. It's entirely because Travis Cloke amuses me. Although Sydney is still preferable.

The Crows will beat Hawthorn. It is destiny, because I believe.

The Dragons are out. I don't care anymore.

So long as Melbourne don't win. Or Manly if it can be helped.

In solidarity with you, I will hope the Rabbitohs win. Because they have the most amusing name and mascot. I think I've watched parts of two NRL games, and the last ten minutes of a 'toyota cup' game this season. That was exciting, as a team won with a field goal in the last 2 seconds.

[Forster Keys]

I stopped paying attention when the Bulldogs lost in the only game I went to this season. My only wish is that Collingwood don't win.

I have slowly gained a bizarre liking of Collingwood this year. It's entirely because Travis Cloke amuses me. Although Sydney is still preferable.

The Crows will beat Hawthorn. It is destiny, because I believe.

The Dragons are out. I don't care anymore.

So long as Melbourne don't win. Or Manly if it can be helped.

In solidarity with you, I will hope the Rabbitohs win. Because they have the most amusing name and mascot. I think I've watched parts of two NRL games, and the last ten minutes of a 'toyota cup' game this season. That was exciting, as a team won with a field goal in the last 2 seconds.

When they win, they're the Rabbitohs. When they lose, they're the Bunnies.

[Forsher]

It's depressing - as a centre-left person, my only halfway useful sources of news are crikey.com and the ABC. The corporate media is right-wing and inaccurate, and the various nontraditional publications are left-wing and inaccurate

We have the same problem with politics in New Zealand. National claims to be centre-right but it is nowhere near that, although I do appreciate that they are trying to get people back to work again. I don't appreciate their "Americanisation" of the education system.

Same thing goes for Labour. I like their ideas behind education and social welfare, but their ideas for programs like how to combat alcohol are ridiculous. Banning advertising isn't going to solve anything and they have become more reactionary in their politics over the years, with no new ideas.

There are centrist parties in New Zealand, but all of them are social conservatives and therefore no-go areas in terms of votes.

It used to be same destination, different models. Now it's same destination, different customisations.

[Blouman Empire]

Fucking wankers, not only do they protest in Australia about something that happened in the US that had nothing to do with the US government but they then start rioting, which does nobody any favours least of all them.

I kind of assumed that people who decided to live here would respect freedom of speech and the like, not call for head-chopping of people who insult their religion. Alas, I am wrong.

You're kidding right, we don't see that in Australia they prefer to bring their old hatreds and ideals along with them. It takes 1-2 generations for that to pass, the Serbs and Croats are taking a bit longer to get over it.

[Blouman Empire]

I stopped paying attention when the Bulldogs lost in the only game I went to this season. My only wish is that Collingwood don't win.

I have slowly gained a bizarre liking of Collingwood this year. It's entirely because Travis Cloke amuses me. Although Sydney is still preferable.

Unless you are a Collingwood supporter you should hang your head in shame for ever wanting Collingwood to win any game. You should hang your head in shame for being a Collingwood supporter anyway.

The Crows will beat Hawthorn. It is destiny, because I believe.

Lucky to beat Freo really.

The Dragons are out. I don't care anymore.

So long as Melbourne don't win. Or Manly if it can be helped.

In solidarity with you, I will hope the Rabbitohs win. Because they have the most amusing name and mascot. I think I've watched parts of two NRL games, and the last ten minutes of a 'toyota cup' game this season. That was exciting, as a team won with a field goal in the last 2 seconds.

Being a Bulldogs supporter I of course want Canterbury to win, but the fact we need to beat Souths is doubly important (Fuck Souths). Melbourne to go in the Grand Final, we can't let the scummy Sea Eagles get in the grand final let alone win it.

[Forster Keys]

I have slowly gained a bizarre liking of Collingwood this year. It's entirely because Travis Cloke amuses me. Although Sydney is still preferable.

Unless you are a Collingwood supporter you should hang your head in shame for ever wanting Collingwood to win any game. You should hang your head in shame for being a Collingwood supporter anyway.

The Crows will beat Hawthorn. It is destiny, because I believe.

Lucky to beat Freo really.

In solidarity with you, I will hope the Rabbitohs win. Because they have the most amusing name and mascot. I think I've watched parts of two NRL games, and the last ten minutes of a 'toyota cup' game this season. That was exciting, as a team won with a field goal in the last 2 seconds.

Being a Bulldogs supporter I of course want Canterbury to win, but the fact we need to beat Souths is doubly important (Fuck Souths). Melbourne to go in the Grand Final, we can't let the scummy Sea Eagles get in the grand final let alone win it.

Not a Souths fan?

[Blouman Empire]

Unless you are a Collingwood supporter you should hang your head in shame for ever wanting Collingwood to win any game. You should hang your head in shame for being a Collingwood supporter anyway.



Lucky to beat Freo really.



Being a Bulldogs supporter I of course want Canterbury to win, but the fact we need to beat Souths is doubly important (Fuck Souths). Melbourne to go in the Grand Final, we can't let the scummy Sea Eagles get in the grand final let alone win it.

Not a Souths fan?

Being a Bulldogs fan that is a definite yes I am not a Souths fan, same goes for Manly

[Forster Keys]

Not a Souths fan?

Being a Bulldogs fan that is a definite yes I am not a Souths fan, same goes for Manly

Well everyone hates Manly.

[Blouman Empire]

Being a Bulldogs fan that is a definite yes I am not a Souths fan, same goes for Manly

Well everyone hates Manly.

Hahaha true

[Radiatia]

It's depressing - as a centre-left person, my only halfway useful sources of news are crikey.com and the ABC. The corporate media is right-wing and inaccurate, and the various nontraditional publications are left-wing and inaccurate

We have the same problem with politics in New Zealand. National claims to be centre-right but it is nowhere near that, although I do appreciate that they are trying to get people back to work again. I don't appreciate their "Americanisation" of the education system.

Same thing goes for Labour. I like their ideas behind education and social welfare, but their ideas for programs like how to combat alcohol are ridiculous. Banning advertising isn't going to solve anything and they have become more reactionary in their politics over the years, with no new ideas.

There are centrist parties in New Zealand, but all of them are social conservatives and therefore no-go areas in terms of votes.

I know exactly what you mean. National have gone against their own ethos (they're meant to be the party of aspiration but are instead in the pockets of ACT and adopting policies which will erode social mobility), and Labour has been taken over by what I call "university twats" - the eery fairy left-liberals who have never worked a day in their lives.

Actually I got a letter from Labour a few days ago telling me I'm eligible to run as a list MP if I want. Hmmmm.....

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Also, hello ANZG people! I know it's not meant to be a chat thread, and I'm trying to stay on topic but... hello, haven't stopped by here in quite some time, hope you're all well.

[Blouman Empire]

Labour has been taken over by what I call "university twats" - the eery fairy left-liberals who have never worked a day in their lives.

Sounds like a lot of members of our Labor party, and if they aren't that then they are either career pollies or union officials that have only ever been union officials rather then working in the areas

[Forsher]

We have the same problem with politics in New Zealand. National claims to be centre-right but it is nowhere near that, although I do appreciate that they are trying to get people back to work again. I don't appreciate their "Americanisation" of the education system.

Same thing goes for Labour. I like their ideas behind education and social welfare, but their ideas for programs like how to combat alcohol are ridiculous. Banning advertising isn't going to solve anything and they have become more reactionary in their politics over the years, with no new ideas.

There are centrist parties in New Zealand, but all of them are social conservatives and therefore no-go areas in terms of votes.

I know exactly what you mean. National have gone against their own ethos (they're meant to be the party of aspiration but are instead in the pockets of ACT and adopting policies which will erode social mobility), and Labour has been taken over by what I call "university twats" - the eery fairy left-liberals who have never worked a day in their lives.

Actually I got a letter from Labour a few days ago telling me I'm eligible to run as a list MP if I want. Hmmmm.....

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Also, hello ANZG people! I know it's not meant to be a chat thread, and I'm trying to stay on topic but... hello, haven't stopped by here in quite some time, hope you're all well.

Do it. Then maybe you can say you're a nationally elected MP and when you're accused of being in character you can tell them it isn't.

[Costa Alegria]

I know exactly what you mean. National have gone against their own ethos (they're meant to be the party of aspiration but are instead in the pockets of ACT and adopting policies which will erode social mobility), and Labour has been taken over by what I call "university twats" - the eery fairy left-liberals who have never worked a day in their lives.

It's the "trendy left", i.e it's cool to be socialist etc because, it's well, cool. I doubt half of them actually knew what socialism was and what it's supposed to achieve.

I also think their politics are more reactionary these days. They aren't the same Labour that Helen Clark used to run.

Actually I got a letter from Labour a few days ago telling me I'm eligible to run as a list MP if I want. Hmmmm.....

How old are you and why haven't you considered it?

Also, hello ANZG people! I know it's not meant to be a chat thread, and I'm trying to stay on topic but... hello, haven't stopped by here in quite some time, hope you're all well.

I'm in Marketing the Arts and bored shitless, surrounded by the "trendy left".

[Forsher]

I know exactly what you mean. National have gone against their own ethos (they're meant to be the party of aspiration but are instead in the pockets of ACT and adopting policies which will erode social mobility), and Labour has been taken over by what I call "university twats" - the eery fairy left-liberals who have never worked a day in their lives.

It's the "trendy left", i.e it's cool to be socialist etc because, it's well, cool. I doubt half of them actually knew what socialism was and what it's supposed to achieve.

I also think their politics are more reactionary these days. They aren't the same Labour that Helen Clark used to run.

They need someone who can actually lead rather than a leader.

[Forster Keys]

I know exactly what you mean. National have gone against their own ethos (they're meant to be the party of aspiration but are instead in the pockets of ACT and adopting policies which will erode social mobility), and Labour has been taken over by what I call "university twats" - the eery fairy left-liberals who have never worked a day in their lives.

It's the "trendy left", i.e it's cool to be socialist etc because, it's well, cool. I doubt half of them actually knew what socialism was and what it's supposed to achieve.

Oh gawd. I had a run in with some Trotskyists the other day. Pushed me miles away from joining any socialist organisation around here.

[Jafas United]

They need someone who can actually lead rather than a leader.

Indeed. Labour (and New Zealand for that matter) needs someone like David Lange. I mean, I don't agree with everything he did, but he's miles ahead of the Labour Party of today.

And to be fair, National has the same problem too.

Back to the point. Winston Peters, anyone?

[Creative Vikings]

Are there any Technocrat parties in new Zealand?

[The Murry]

Labour has been taken over by what I call "university twats" - the eery fairy left-liberals who have never worked a day in their lives.

Sounds like a lot of members of our Labor party, and if they aren't that then they are either career pollies or union officials that have only ever been union officials rather then working in the areas

Yes, I completely agree, I defy anyone to find me one siting member of the Federal Labor Party who has ever run a business or had a senior role in one. Or for that matter was educated at one of the big four global universities.
While where on it what qualifications does Wayne Swan have?

[Costa Alegria]

Oh gawd. I had a run in with some Trotskyists the other day. Pushed me miles away from joining any socialist organisation around here.

That sounded like fun. What were they yabbering on about?

Back to the point. Winston Peters, anyone?

What about him?

[Jafas United]

Back to the point. Winston Peters, anyone?

What about him?

As eccentric as he is, he's probably the only leader of a political party who actually believes in what he's saying. Which is what I think Forsher was alluding to. Harawira also comes to mind, I guess.

Not that I want either of them to lead the country, nor will they ever, thankfully.

[Jafas United]

Are there any Technocrat parties in new Zealand?

Ugh, can't think of any. Career politicians are still rife.