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What are your political beliefs?

Conservative
30
17%
Moderate
16
9%
Liberal
24
14%
Libertarian (minarchist)
22
13%
Libertarian (anarchist)
9
5%
Independant
11
6%
Fascist
13
7%
National Socialist
5
3%
Socialist
31
18%
Communist
15
9%
 
Total votes : 176

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Zottistan
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Postby Zottistan » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:36 am

Stalinism FTW.
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Novaya Tselinoyarsk
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:42 am

Zottistan wrote:Stalinism FTW.


And what at the point where someone overthrows you and you live in the state of perpetual shit as a commoner?
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Postby Angleter » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:57 am

Zwitterjiund wrote:I'm a weird one when it comes to political beliefs.

I'd say I am a National Socialist, I take great pride in my country while devoutly believing in socialism.


I think "left-wing nationalism" would be a better term. Given that "national socialist" means an ideology of its own.
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Peach Land
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Postby Peach Land » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:59 am

The amount of socialists is a little...unnerving :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:06 am

We have this thread, or some variant thereof, every other week. I always have trouble summing up my political beliefs, but on this occasion, I have a new plan to sum them up more easily; I'm a High Tory traditionalist conservative but with elements of environmentalism and moderate socialism. Yay, I got it down to twelve words!
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Helcasia
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Postby Helcasia » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:32 am

Peach Land wrote:The amount of socialists is a little...unnerving :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:


What do you mean you find the amount of socialists unnerving?

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:36 am

Peach Land wrote:The amount of socialists is a little...unnerving :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

Well thats rude.
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Postby Yuktova » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:46 pm

Are there Conservative Socialists? The poll seems to think so. Weird.
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Vecherd
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Postby Vecherd » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:50 pm

Yuktova wrote:Are there Conservative Socialists? The poll seems to think so. Weird.


Nah, Socialists usually are very conservative.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:51 pm

Yuktova wrote:Are there Conservative Socialists? The poll seems to think so. Weird.

I'm not sure I follow your comment about the poll, though I must point out that it is possible to combine certain Conservative values such as strong community a morality with Socialist collectivism and egalitarianism. For example, religious socialist movements are often socially conservative. So-called Disraelian or 'One Nation' Conservatism could be described as a sort of Conservative Socialism as well.
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Postby Sociobiology » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:52 pm

Peach Land wrote:The amount of socialists is a little...unnerving :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

I would be willing to bet that has a lot to do with many people( cough Americans cough) mistakenly thinking Norway and France are socialist.
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Sulfar
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Postby Sulfar » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:56 pm

Social liberal and economically centrist.
My views are boring, aren't they? :p
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:09 pm

Vecherd wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Do you live in Scandinavia?


I live in Norway, so yes.

Wanna switch addresses for a year? I live in Texas, USA.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:11 pm

Yuktova wrote:Are there Conservative Socialists?

You can certainly be fiscally left while being socially conservative.
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Herrebrugh
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Postby Herrebrugh » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:12 pm

Socialist.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:04 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Radiatia wrote:I am a Radical Centrist, pretty much the same as what Mike the Progressive has on his signature.

So, Mike has groupies? Awesome.


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Kamany
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Postby Kamany » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:09 pm

Peach Land wrote:The amount of socialists is a little...unnerving :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:



Why unnerving? For What's the socialism?

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Postby Zwitterjiund » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:16 pm

Helcasia wrote:
Zwitterjiund wrote:I'm a weird one when it comes to political beliefs.

I'd say I am a National Socialist, I take great pride in my country while devoutly believing in socialism.


...That's not what National Socialist means.
The only excuse for thinking that is if you're Glen Beck.


National Socialism isn't a well defined concept, in the West it's obviously associated with Nazism. I view it as countries with less exposure to the European theatre of WW2 do... i.e. Patriotic Socialist. No racism, chauvinism, anti-Semitism or whatever

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Abundania
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Postby Abundania » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:17 pm

I'm a green libertarian socialist.

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High Vasa
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Postby High Vasa » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:18 pm

Zwitterjiund wrote:
Helcasia wrote:
...That's not what National Socialist means.
The only excuse for thinking that is if you're Glen Beck.


National Socialism isn't a well defined concept, in the West it's obviously associated with Nazism. I view it as countries with less exposure to the European theatre of WW2 do... i.e. Patriotic Socialist. No racism, chauvinism, anti-Semitism or whatever


I am a very hard core libertarian, I truly believe that government is a necessary evil.

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Kamany
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Postby Kamany » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:29 pm

Kamany wrote:
Peach Land wrote:The amount of socialists is a little...unnerving :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:



Why unnerving? For What's the socialism?



Why unnerving? For you What's the socialism?

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Postby Ravineworld » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:29 pm

Helcasia wrote:
Ravineworld wrote:I am a racialist anarcho-capitalist. Not a racist, a racialist. They are two very different things


Google's web definitions are telling me racialism is just a synonym for racism.

Well, google is wrong. Racialists support dignity, preservation, and responsibility for every race. We support complete separation, therefore abolishing competition and exploitation based on race.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:31 pm

Ravineworld wrote:
Helcasia wrote:
Google's web definitions are telling me racialism is just a synonym for racism.

Well, google is wrong. Racialists support dignity, preservation, and responsibility for every race. We support complete separation, therefore abolishing competition and exploitation based on race.

Separate but Equal? Yeah that didn't work.
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Iberistania
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Postby Iberistania » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:35 pm

Let's see...

Marxism, inclined towards socialism as interpreted by Allende, and with a quasi-confederal and pretty anarchic view of the State, following Pi i Margall. And I have great respect for the work of Robesperre in the Committee of Public Safety.

Yeah, it's probably an absurd mix, but anyway... I choose it!

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Bonapartia (Ancient)
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Postby Bonapartia (Ancient) » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:40 pm

Democratic socialist, nationalist, progressive, market socialist, titoist

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