Rush Limbaugh: Women Who Want Birth Control Are Sluts

[Revolutopia]

Wait.... we don't like sluts now?

WTF why?????

Rush doesn't like them, in that even sluts wouldn't touch him for a million dollars.

[Socialdemokraterne]

I don't care if Rush apologized or not, because I honestly couldn't have ever had a lower opinion of him. If he wants to redeem his character in my eyes, he'll confess to being a fool, retire from his position, and never dare to claim that he has had anything to do with "excellence in broadcasting" ever again. Until then, I will continue to disregard him and view his program as a lost cause.

[Tekania]

It disappoints me that Bill O'Reilly is deciding to side with Rush Limbaugh in attacking Sandra Fluke. He's also been misled into thinking that this issue is somehow about taxpayer money. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDcT6r1DOXE

The association with the issue being a tax-payer money issue seems to be wide-spread amongst the right-wing. I imagine it's simply another example of fraud committed by them so that they can scream "SUSHALIZZMMMZZ!!!!" while figuring out ways not to provide coverage to people paying their own money into health insurance plans.

[Tekania]

Yeah, someone noted the "apology" a few pages back.

It's not really an apology. It's code talk for "I promise I won't call her a slut whore anymore, please just don't pull your sponsorship from my show."

Usually when I use quotes, it's either because I am quotes someone directly, or I am indicating an unacceptable or loose usage of a word.

I personally don't class calling someone a slut and then turning around and saying the one wasn't meaning disrespect... and even then only doing so in response that a lot of the people paying for your little radio program have told you to shove it and are taking away some of your potential income as an apology.

[Miss Defied]

The Pill costs the same no matter if you have sex one time per year, or three times a night.

Moreover, you don't need more pills if you have more sex. Instead, you take the same amount of pills if you have sex once a year as you do if you have daily gang bangs.

IOW, the number of pills a woman must take to avoid pregnancy is entirely independent of the frequency with which a woman has sex.

Wow. Hard to fathom that after 30 pages, this still needs to be stated.

[Tekania]

Rats.

@Gauthier: Yeah, that's undoubtedly what it is. Someone said to Rush, "You put your foot in it, the liberals are on the warpath, just say you're sorry for your choice of words." And that is basically what he said, too.

Well, I mean, honestly though, what's he going to say? People aren't upset at him for being against the proposal, that's a given. Of course he's against it. That's not the offensive part. The offensive part was calling her a slut and a prostitute.

The part where he doesn't seem to understand how hormonal birth control works or obfiscates the issue to make people think it's about 'their money' etc, that's just run of the mill Rush bullshit to which we can point and laugh and correct.

But the part that crossed the line was calling her a slut and a whore and suggesting that she put up sex videos for everyone to see because we're paying for her birth control...

Of course, we're not paying for shit, she is paying for her own healthcare coverage. But that part isn't offensive as much as it's just stupid.

Well, that's all just his "poor choice of words".... after all in calling her a "slut" and requesting that she post her sex tapes online for him he "did not mean [it] as a personal attack".

[The Black Forrest]

Yeah, someone noted the "apology" a few pages back.

Rats.

@Gauthier: Yeah, that's undoubtedly what it is. Someone said to Rush, "You put your foot in it, the liberals are on the warpath, just say you're sorry for your choice of words." And that is basically what he said, too.

He is sorry about lost sponsorship. For example, sleep train canceled advertising on his show. Others probably did as well.

I don't buy the apology. What he said wasn't a simple bad choice of words.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Rats.

@Gauthier: Yeah, that's undoubtedly what it is. Someone said to Rush, "You put your foot in it, the liberals are on the warpath, just say you're sorry for your choice of words." And that is basically what he said, too.

He is sorry about lost sponsorship. For example, sleep train canceled advertising on his show. Others probably did as well.

I don't buy the apology. What he said wasn't a simple bad choice of words.

Of course it wasn't. ASB already noted that Rush is a serial slanderer with a long history of baseless personal attacks and general moronic jackassery.

[Cannot think of a name]

He is sorry about lost sponsorship. For example, sleep train canceled advertising on his show. Others probably did as well.

I don't buy the apology. What he said wasn't a simple bad choice of words.

Well, that's all just his "poor choice of words".... after all in calling her a "slut" and requesting that she post her sex tapes online for him he "did not mean [it] as a personal attack".

Well, yeah, I'm not buying the 'sincerity' of it in the slightest, what with him upping the ante for three days straight and actually seeming to address a producer's concern that he was going to keep on going by saying "Yeah I am" acknowledging he was going to 'get in trouble' for what he was saying. You're right, he's not in the least sorry, Clear Channel is sorry and they want their advertisers back so this cash cow can keep giving.

[Tekania]

Rats.

@Gauthier: Yeah, that's undoubtedly what it is. Someone said to Rush, "You put your foot in it, the liberals are on the warpath, just say you're sorry for your choice of words." And that is basically what he said, too.

He is sorry about lost sponsorship. For example, sleep train canceled advertising on his show. Others probably did as well.

I don't buy the apology. What he said wasn't a simple bad choice of words.

Sure it was a poor choice of words... yeah.... he meant to say she was a... a ... um.. a... sleuth... yah, sleuth... that's the ticket.

[New England and The Maritimes]

He is sorry about lost sponsorship. For example, sleep train canceled advertising on his show. Others probably did as well.

I don't buy the apology. What he said wasn't a simple bad choice of words.

Sure it was a poor choice of words... yeah.... he meant to say she was a... a ... um.. a... sleuth... yah, sleuth... that's the ticket.

Well, he does wear glasses for a reason, after all.

[Ora Amaris]

Watching a news story here in Canada, one of the female news anchors actually called him out and called him a man-slut. I died laughing!

[The Black Forrest]

Sure it was a poor choice of words... yeah.... he meant to say she was a... a ... um.. a... sleuth... yah, sleuth... that's the ticket.

Well, he does wear glasses for a reason, after all.

That' explains it. He is a card reader. Somebody else wrote it on his card and he read it before he realized what he was saying.

[Lacadaemon]

Wait.... we don't like sluts now?

WTF why?????

No we don't. Because it's a totally judgmental and derogatory term for someone who is exercising the right of self determination over her own body.

That said, this nation has totally jumped the shark. So called 'birth control' is often used for reasons other than 'birth control'. Moreover, to those that couldn't see that quasi-nationalizing healthcare in the US in this fashion would make the medication du jour a political issue, well then, you really ought to learn to ride a unicycle and spend the next decade riding around your neighborhood with a dunces hat on.

[Lacadaemon]

To be clear. Americans are far too stupid to have a national healthcare system. Mostly because of the nominally intelligent americans.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Wait.... we don't like sluts now?

WTF why?????

No we don't. Because it's a totally judgmental and derogatory term for someone who is exercising the right of self determination over her own body.

That said, this nation has totally jumped the shark. So called 'birth control' is often used for reasons other than 'birth control'. Moreover, to those that couldn't see that quasi-nationalizing healthcare in the US in this fashion would make the medication du jour a political issue, well then, you really ought to learn to ride a unicycle and spend the next decade riding around your neighborhood with a dunces hat on.

I say bring it on. Look at the blowback this pig is getting. Bringing this issue to the forefront so people can see what the "moral majority" are really all about is going to bring us that much closer to them fucking off forever.

Forcing this confrontation when he knows he has the numbers to win it may just be Obama's smartest move, if he has the balls to run with it.

[Tekania]

Well, he does wear glasses for a reason, after all.

That' explains it. He is a card reader. Somebody else wrote it on his card and he read it before he realized what he was saying.

Yeah, that's it... he's a card reader, yeah.... and...um....and... yeah... and...... his glasses lenses fell out that day, yeah, that's the ticket... and he did the program while wearing just the frames... yeah.

[New England and The Maritimes]

That' explains it. He is a card reader. Somebody else wrote it on his card and he read it before he realized what he was saying.

Yeah, that's it... he's a card reader, yeah.... and...um....and... yeah... and...... his glasses lenses fell out that day, yeah, that's the ticket... and he did the program while wearing just the frames... yeah.

Maybe if they squeeze his money-testicles hard enough he'll cry. Gods, that would be delicious.

[Lacadaemon]

Forcing this confrontation when he knows he has the numbers to win it may just be Obama's smartest move, if he has the balls to run with it.

It will never end though. It's politicizing medicine. Sure, I agree that the pill should be covered, no questions about it. Ultimately though, medicine should be in the hands of medical professionals, not politics.

So this week the pill, next week, I don't know. But fuck me, should we be having to select our vote over specifics of medical treatment? As if there aren't enough retarded wedge issues to begin with.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Forcing this confrontation when he knows he has the numbers to win it may just be Obama's smartest move, if he has the balls to run with it.

It will never end though. It's politicizing medicine. Sure, I agree that the pill should be covered, no questions about it. Ultimately though, medicine should be in the hands of medical professionals, not politics.

So this week the pill, next week, I don't know. But fuck me, should we be having to select our vote over specifics of medical treatment? As if there aren't enough retarded wedge issues to begin with.

Thing is, I don't think it's really an issue. I don't see any real substance to the other side. I see radical religious figures and blowhard talk radio hosts and politicians who are loathed by their electorate, but I don't see the real people.

On the other hand, the opposition to this kind of shit is visible and loud. Everyone I talk to has the same general opinion of contraception; namely, that it is the best invention ever. I think all these guys are doing by trying to politicize this is exposing their nominal base to the opinions that can polarize them against the candidates in question.

It's a divisive issue, but it's divisive in a way that hurts the bad guys.

That said, I agree; so do most Americans. Conservatives cite polls showing PPACA is unfavorable. Far as I can tell, the #1 reason is the scrapping of a public plan.

I don't think we'll see this as a long-term measure. When we elect another Democrat in 2016, I think making medicine fully public is going to be a big issue. This was barely a stop-gap on the road to healthcare structuring on par with a proper country.

[Dark Fire Ice]

Why do churches have the privilege of choosing, whats medicine or not? True they did during the plague, and their cure was to a, huddle around the sick and pray, b, run like yell, or c, blame and kill the Jews, so their track record on logic, morals, or basic humanity is on par with genocidal maniacs, so sure lets take their word how act on human reproduction; the product is holy, but the carrier is the basis of sin. If they want don't want to provide healthcare, then let them, and how about getting rid the rest of special privileges they get from the US government.

[Farnhamia]

Why do churches have the privilege of choosing, whats medicine or not? True they did during the plague, and their cure was to a, huddle around the sick and pray, b, run like yell, or c, blame and kill the Jews, so their track record on logic, morals, or basic humanity is on par with genocidal maniacs, so sure lets take their word how act on human reproduction; the product is holy, but the carrier is the basis of sin. If they want don't want to provide healthcare, then let them, and how about getting rid the rest of special privileges they get from the US government.

It's not all health care, it's just birth control. And it's not all churches, mostly just the Roman Catholics. They have their reasons.

[Alien Space Bats]

Wow. Hard to fathom that after 30 pages, this still needs to be stated.

I suspect most people don't really understand how hormonal birth control works.

Mitt Romney gave away his ignorance when he endorsed fetal personhood and then told a woman at a town hall in Mississippi that we wasn't against the Pill. When she challenged him, he officiously "corrected" her by saying that it "prevents conception", which isn't really accurate.

COCP's (a/k/a the Combined Oral Contraceptive Pills) combine estrogen with progestin. It works through multiple mechanisms:

• COCP's inhibit (but do not necessarily prevent ovulation). This is the principal means by which COCP's ward off pregnancy.
  
  
• COCP's reduce the amount of cervical mucus and increase its viscosity, making it harder (but not impossible) for sperm to enter (and pass through) the uterus; the effect is to greatly reduce the amount of sperm available for fertilization.
  
  
• COCP's may reduce the likelihood of a fertilized egg implanting in the uterus. This mechanism for avoiding pregnancy has not been medically established as certain, and in any event would only be likely to operate in a small percentage of cases in which pregnancy is avoided. Nonetheless, the possibility that COCP's might prevent implantation has led pro-life groups to label COCP's as an "abortifacient"; these groups have made it clear that the possibility that COCP's function as an abortifacient will be the grounds on which they seek to have such drugs banned in the event that States are Constitutionally allowed to declare fertilized eggs to be legal persons.

POP's (a/k/a Progestogen-Only or Progestin-Only Pills) work in much the same fashion as COCP's:

• The degree to which POP's inhibit ovulation and/or make it harder for sperm to penetrate the uterus will depend on the strength of the progestogen dose they contain.
  
  
  • Higher dose formulations, such as found in Depo-Provera (a quarterly injection), pretty much prevent ovulation altogether.
    
    
  • Lower dose formulations, such as found in Norplant (an implant), are far less effective at preventing ovulation, but far more effective in thickening (as well as reducing the amount) of cervical mucus, thus reducing sperm penetration.
    
    
  • Intermediate-dose formulations, such as used in Implanon (another implant), combine both actions to achieve results.
• As with COCP's, it is theoretically possible that POP's reduce the likelihood of uterine implantation by thinning the endometrium (the layer of blood-rich cells within the uterine lining needed to sustain a fertilized ovum during implantation); like COCP's, it is unlikely that this mechanism functions in more than a very small number of cases. Again, this has led to POP's being labelled by pro-life groups as an abortifacient; as with COCP's, pro-life group insist that this fact should be grounds for POP's being banned.

It was only a few days later that Romney retreated with respect to his support for fetal personhood, although (as with most of Mitt's other positions) it is necessary to check daily to see what the Mittster's actual position may be.

[Dark Fire Ice]

Why do churches have the privilege of choosing, whats medicine or not? True they did during the plague, and their cure was to a, huddle around the sick and pray, b, run like yell, or c, blame and kill the Jews, so their track record on logic, morals, or basic humanity is on par with genocidal maniacs, so sure lets take their word how act on human reproduction; the product is holy, but the carrier is the basis of sin. If they want don't want to provide healthcare, then let them, and how about getting rid the rest of special privileges they get from the US government.

It's not all health care, it's just birth control. And it's not all churches, mostly just the Roman Catholics. They have their reasons.

But they are still saying they want to cover what they want in healthcare, and Roman Catholics are not very high on the sanity bar.

[Farnhamia]

It's not all health care, it's just birth control. And it's not all churches, mostly just the Roman Catholics. They have their reasons.

But they are still saying they want to cover what they want in healthcare, and Roman Catholics are not very high on the sanity bar.

Just pointing out the basis of their stance. I'm not defending it by any means.