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Is Religion A Mental Illness?

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Inky Noodles
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Postby Inky Noodles » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:38 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Children are born without ice-cream in Japan? What a strange country.

Knowledge of.

Both my sons did not know what ice cream was when they were born...

They do now of course. 8)

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It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:39 pm

Anti-Obamaland wrote:Not arguing with the mods.


Not only are you trolling a moderator, you're trolling GENDO IKARI. Remember Kaji? Remember what Gendo did to Kaji for causing him trouble? Yeah. You're Kaji. Only without a friends-with-benefits relationship with Misato.
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Is Religion A Mental Illness?

Postby Dehoytchland » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:42 pm

A (where A is anything, ever) is undefined. I'm a Mathlete.
0

As for the topic, one could certainly argue that religion is a mental illness, if you accept that religion is disconnected or tangential to reality. If you don't you're unlikely to argue that religion is a mental illness.
As such I would call religion something, though mental illness is perhaps too strong a word.

Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.


Yes, but they are all human social constructs, used to explain the world. (Or regulate, or give diabetes too, whatever). So religion is real, but it's made up. Like math.

As for religion being right.... :roll:
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:42 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Technically it's infinity, but, whatever.

1/0 is not any of the infinities. 1/0 is undefined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero#Formal_operations
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Postby Eastern Afrika » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:45 pm

Dehoytchland wrote:A (where A is anything, ever) is undefined. I'm a Mathlete.
0

As for the topic, one could certainly argue that religion is a mental illness, if you accept that religion is disconnected or tangential to reality. If you don't you're unlikely to argue that religion is a mental illness.
As such I would call religion something, though mental illness is perhaps too strong a word.

Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.


Yes, but they are all human social constructs, used to explain the world. (Or regulate, or give diabetes too, whatever). So religion is real, but it's made up. Like math.

As for religion being right.... :roll:
Wikkiwallana wrote:
Xsyne wrote:1/0 is not any of the infinities. 1/0 is undefined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero#Formal_operations



0 divided by anything is.... 0

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Postby NERVUN » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:46 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Knowledge of.

Both my sons did not know what ice cream was when they were born...

They do now of course. 8)

OOC: Whats ice cream?

Let be be the finale of seem. *nods*

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Anti-Obamaland wrote:Not arguing with the mods.


Not only are you trolling a moderator, you're trolling GENDO IKARI. Remember Kaji? Remember what Gendo did to Kaji for causing him trouble? Yeah. You're Kaji. Only without a friends-with-benefits relationship with Misato.

*mod hat on for a second* Seriously, I don't go around deat'ing people for arguing with me.
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Postby Xsyne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:47 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Xsyne wrote:1/0 is not any of the infinities. 1/0 is undefined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero#Formal_operations

A formal calculation is one carried out using rules of arithmetic, without consideration of whether the result of the calculation is well-defined.

In other words, 1/0 is not equal to any infinity.
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Postby Evraim » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:47 pm

Socialdemokraterne wrote:
Anti-Obamaland wrote:Not arguing with the mods.


Not only are you trolling a moderator, you're trolling GENDO IKARI. Remember Kaji? Remember what Gendo did to Kaji for causing him trouble? Yeah. You're Kaji. Only without a friends-with-benefits relationship with Misato.

What the mentally challenged otter are you on about?

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:48 pm

Eastern Afrika wrote:
Dehoytchland wrote:A (where A is anything, ever) is undefined. I'm a Mathlete.
0

As for the topic, one could certainly argue that religion is a mental illness, if you accept that religion is disconnected or tangential to reality. If you don't you're unlikely to argue that religion is a mental illness.
As such I would call religion something, though mental illness is perhaps too strong a word.



Yes, but they are all human social constructs, used to explain the world. (Or regulate, or give diabetes too, whatever). So religion is real, but it's made up. Like math.

As for religion being right.... :roll:



0 divided by anything is.... 0

But they're talking about 1 divided by 0.
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:49 pm

Evraim wrote:
Socialdemokraterne wrote:
Not only are you trolling a moderator, you're trolling GENDO IKARI. Remember Kaji? Remember what Gendo did to Kaji for causing him trouble? Yeah. You're Kaji. Only without a friends-with-benefits relationship with Misato.

What the mentally challenged otter are you on about?

Has to do with my flag.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:49 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Socialdemokraterne wrote:
Not only are you trolling a moderator, you're trolling GENDO IKARI. Remember Kaji? Remember what Gendo did to Kaji for causing him trouble? Yeah. You're Kaji. Only without a friends-with-benefits relationship with Misato.

*mod hat on for a second* Seriously, I don't go around deat'ing people for arguing with me.

It'd be an awful empty forum if that were the case.

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Postby Jerusalem and Damascus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:49 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:OOC: Whats ice cream?

Let be be the finale of seem. *nods*

Socialdemokraterne wrote:
Not only are you trolling a moderator, you're trolling GENDO IKARI. Remember Kaji? Remember what Gendo did to Kaji for causing him trouble? Yeah. You're Kaji. Only without a friends-with-benefits relationship with Misato.

*mod hat on for a second* Seriously, I don't go around deat'ing people for arguing with me.


To be honest, I'm not sure Anti-Obama knows Neon Genesis Evangelion well enough to find that threatening. God knows I had to wiki it.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:50 pm

Eastern Afrika wrote:
Dehoytchland wrote:A (where A is anything, ever) is undefined. I'm a Mathlete.
0

As for the topic, one could certainly argue that religion is a mental illness, if you accept that religion is disconnected or tangential to reality. If you don't you're unlikely to argue that religion is a mental illness.
As such I would call religion something, though mental illness is perhaps too strong a word.



Yes, but they are all human social constructs, used to explain the world. (Or regulate, or give diabetes too, whatever). So religion is real, but it's made up. Like math.

As for religion being right.... :roll:



0 divided by anything is.... 0

You seem to be reading the fraction backwards.
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Postby Eastern Afrika » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:50 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Eastern Afrika wrote:

0 divided by anything is.... 0

But they're talking about 1 divided by 0.


:palm: 1 dived by zero is zero whats the big deal

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:51 pm

Xsyne wrote:

A formal calculation is one carried out using rules of arithmetic, without consideration of whether the result of the calculation is well-defined.

In other words, 1/0 is not equal to any infinity.

Read the next two bits as well, that's just where it starts.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Inky Noodles » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:51 pm

Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Let be be the finale of seem. *nods*


*mod hat on for a second* Seriously, I don't go around deat'ing people for arguing with me.


To be honest, I'm not sure Anti-Obama knows Neon Genesis Evangelion well enough to find that threatening. God knows I had to wiki it.

I learned about it in a Skrillex video.
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Especially the females. *nod*


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Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:53 pm

Er....I overestimated the popularity of Neon Genesis Evangelion, it seems. Duly noted. But no, I wasn't accusing you of anything NERV. I was just trying to be amusing while chastising him. And apparently failing at the amusing part. Failing hard.
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:56 pm

Socialdemokraterne wrote:Er....I overestimated the popularity of Neon Genesis Evangelion, it seems. Duly noted. But no, I wasn't accusing you of anything NERV. I was just trying to be amusing while chastising him. And apparently failing at the amusing part. Failing hard.

No worries. The problem is that some people really DO think Mods delete people who argue with them.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:58 pm

Eastern Afrika wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:But they're talking about 1 divided by 0.


:palm: 1 dived by zero is zero whats the big deal

Go get a calculator and give it a try. It should give an error.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:59 pm

NERVUN wrote:You divide by 0 and the universe collapses into a singularity again, duh! :p

I honestly don't know what's gotten into the lot of you, but you've gone and infected another Mod with it. Does Poppa need to spank?

Get this thread back on topic, or it will be locked as the spam it's turning into.

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Postby The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:02 pm

OH, back on topic...uhh...well..um...No, religion isn't a mental illness. *originalfaces*
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Postby Xsyne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:04 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Xsyne wrote:
In other words, 1/0 is not equal to any infinity.

Read the next two bits as well, that's just where it starts.

Okay, in the Riemann sphere 1/0 can be defined as an infinity. I was unaware we were talking about the extended complex numbers.
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Postby The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:05 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Read the next two bits as well, that's just where it starts.

Okay, in the Riemann sphere 1/0 can be defined as an infinity. I was unaware we were talking about the extended complex numbers.

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Postby Desperate Measures » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:12 pm

Eastern Afrika wrote:
:palm: 1 dived by zero is zero whats the big deal

Part of me wishes that this quote will be the last thing I hear before I die.
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Postby Evraim » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:47 pm

The Cummunist State wrote:OH, back on topic...uhh...well..um...No, religion isn't a mental illness. *originalfaces*

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