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Is Religion A Mental Illness?

Yes.
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No.
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Postby Norstal » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:10 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Anti-Obamaland wrote:
For every action there is a reaction or antithesis of a statement.

Doesn't answer my question.

We have a humongous thread bashing religion, yet when anything supporting religion or detracting of atheism pops up BOOM lock down.

Maybe because the OP made it clear that his opinion was just that, an opinion, yet you keep trying to state these things as fact? Maybe because he offered meat, even if just a scrap of it, and you are passing out bland generalities and insults?

Although if we are to assume atheism is a mental illness, does that make everyone born retarded?

After all, babies don't have the capacity to think about anything.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:11 pm

Anti-Obamaland wrote:Show me where there is another thread about what I posted....I am waiting.

We didn't lock your thread because it was a duplicate, we locked it because it was a copycat.

This is the thread you were copying.

Yours was the anti-this.

Got it yet?

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Postby Anti-Obamaland » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:11 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Anti-Obamaland wrote:
For every action there is a reaction or antithesis of a statement.

Doesn't answer my question.

We have a humongous thread bashing religion, yet when anything supporting religion or detracting of atheism pops up BOOM lock down.

Maybe because the OP made it clear that his opinion was just that, an opinion, yet you keep trying to state these things as fact? Maybe because he offered meat, even if just a scrap of it, and you are passing out bland generalities and insults?



Haven't insulted anyone in either thread.

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Postby Segland » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:12 pm

Religion is just as not-a-mental-illness-ish as atheism, or even antitheism for that matter.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:12 pm

Anti-Obamaland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Doesn't answer my question.


Maybe because the OP made it clear that his opinion was just that, an opinion, yet you keep trying to state these things as fact? Maybe because he offered meat, even if just a scrap of it, and you are passing out bland generalities and insults?



Haven't insulted anyone in either thread.

LET IT GO.
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It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby Anti-Obamaland » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:14 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Anti-Obamaland wrote:

Haven't insulted anyone in either thread.

LET IT GO.


I won't. I'm sure you find that offensive....an "I won't"
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:15 pm

Anti-Obamaland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Doesn't answer my question.


Maybe because the OP made it clear that his opinion was just that, an opinion, yet you keep trying to state these things as fact? Maybe because he offered meat, even if just a scrap of it, and you are passing out bland generalities and insults?



Haven't insulted anyone in either thread.

Anti-Obamaland wrote:Only someone without their mental faculties could believe we are the product of a giant explosion (BIG BANG THEORY) and millions of years of evolution descending from apes (who never evolved for some reason that has not been explained).

Looks like an insult to me.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:16 pm

Anti-Obamaland wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:LET IT GO.


I won't. I'm sure you find that offensive....an "I won't"

I'm sure that only makes the situation your in even worse.
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Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


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Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby NERVUN » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:17 pm

Norstal wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Doesn't answer my question.


Maybe because the OP made it clear that his opinion was just that, an opinion, yet you keep trying to state these things as fact? Maybe because he offered meat, even if just a scrap of it, and you are passing out bland generalities and insults?

Although if we are to assume atheism is a mental illness, does that make everyone born retarded?

After all, babies don't have the capacity to think about anything.

Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.
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Postby Segland » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:19 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Anti-Obamaland wrote:
I won't. I'm sure you find that offensive....an "I won't"

I'm sure that only makes the situation your in even worse.
Don't argue with the mods.
They know what they're doing.
Trust me, I've learned the hard way a long time ago.


This statement has little to do with the thread at hand, but to expand on IN's post some, I'll say it anyways:

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Anyways, yeah, don't troll/insult/flame/get multiple nations in the WA/be a jerk/flame/troll.

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:19 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Norstal wrote:Although if we are to assume atheism is a mental illness, does that make everyone born retarded?

After all, babies don't have the capacity to think about anything.

Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

That's not what his argument was, though. Comparing something that everyone is born with to a mental illness is, well, 'strange.'
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Postby Norstal » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:19 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Norstal wrote:Although if we are to assume atheism is a mental illness, does that make everyone born retarded?

After all, babies don't have the capacity to think about anything.

Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

I never said the latter, but yes I get the idea. I'm just saying no one is born with those concepts.

So NERV, what happens if you're religious but atheist? DUN DUN DUN DUN!
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Postby Sane Outcasts » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:22 pm

Norstal wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

I never said the latter, but yes I get the idea. I'm just saying no one is born with those concepts.

So NERV, what happens if you're religious but atheist? DUN DUN DUN DUN!

You follow a religion that embraces a core concept of spirituality while rejecting the ideas/worship of deities, duh.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:22 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Norstal wrote:Although if we are to assume atheism is a mental illness, does that make everyone born retarded?

After all, babies don't have the capacity to think about anything.

Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

Math? MATH? You still believe in that old nonsense?! It's a plot cooked up to damn our immortal souls. One of the world's greatest philosophers convinced me so.
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Postby Anti-Obamaland » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:23 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
Anti-Obamaland wrote:
I won't. I'm sure you find that offensive....an "I won't"

I'm sure that only makes the situation your in even worse.
Don't argue with the mods.
They know what they're doing.
Trust me, I've learned the hard way a long time ago.


Not arguing with the mods.

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Postby NERVUN » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:24 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

That's not what his argument was, though. Comparing something that everyone is born with to a mental illness is, well, 'strange.'

No argument there.

And to expand, I wasn't actually claiming that Norstal did make that argument, I was more ranting because I have actually run into that argument here from time to time.

Norstal wrote:So NERV, what happens if you're religious but atheist? DUN DUN DUN DUN!

You divide by 0 and the universe collapses into a singularity again, duh! :p
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:25 pm

Norstal wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

I never said the latter, but yes I get the idea. I'm just saying no one is born with those concepts.

So NERV, what happens if you're religious but atheist? DUN DUN DUN DUN!


What happens if you're religious but atheist? I think that makes you a Bluth Corporation-style Christian.
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Postby Inky Noodles » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:26 pm

Anti-Obamaland wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:I'm sure that only makes the situation your in even worse.
Don't argue with the mods.
They know what they're doing.
Trust me, I've learned the hard way a long time ago.


Not arguing with the mods.

Scroll up on the page.
That right there, is the base of an argument, which the mod clearly avoided.
I suggest that you don't complain and derail peoples threads on how you your thread was locked by making a snarky comment like the ones you did on the last page.
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Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:27 pm

Norstal wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

I never said the latter, but yes I get the idea. I'm just saying no one is born with those concepts.

So NERV, what happens if you're religious but atheist? DUN DUN DUN DUN!

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Postby Inky Noodles » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:28 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Tlaceceyaya wrote:That's not what his argument was, though. Comparing something that everyone is born with to a mental illness is, well, 'strange.'

No argument there.

And to expand, I wasn't actually claiming that Norstal did make that argument, I was more ranting because I have actually run into that argument here from time to time.

Norstal wrote:So NERV, what happens if you're religious but atheist? DUN DUN DUN DUN!

You divide by 0 and the universe collapses into a singularity again, duh! :p

1/ 0 = 0
It's simple. Nothing happened.
*BUZZKILL mode off*
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Inky Noodles wrote:QUICK.

I WANNA ASK SOMEONE TO HOMECOMING.


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but heres my number
homecoming maybe?

*not a valid offer.

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Veceria wrote:People with big noses have big penises.
Even the females.

Especially the females. *nod*


Hurdegaryp wrote:
Belligerent Alcoholics wrote:Are you OK? :eyebrow:

It's a person called Inky Noodles in a thread that is not exactly known for its sanity in general. Do the math, beerguzzler.


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Postby Xsyne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:31 pm

Inky Noodles wrote:
NERVUN wrote:No argument there.

And to expand, I wasn't actually claiming that Norstal did make that argument, I was more ranting because I have actually run into that argument here from time to time.


You divide by 0 and the universe collapses into a singularity again, duh! :p

1/ 0 = 0
It's simple. Nothing happened.
*BUZZKILL mode off*

1/0 does not equal zero. 1/0 is undefined.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Xsyne wrote:
Inky Noodles wrote:1/ 0 = 0
It's simple. Nothing happened.
*BUZZKILL mode off*

1/0 does not equal zero. 1/0 is undefined.

Technically it's infinity, but, whatever.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:33 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Norstal wrote:Although if we are to assume atheism is a mental illness, does that make everyone born retarded?

After all, babies don't have the capacity to think about anything.

Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

Children are born without ice-cream in Japan? What a strange country.


Wikkiwallana wrote:
Xsyne wrote:1/0 does not equal zero. 1/0 is undefined.

Technically it's infinity, but, whatever.

No, it really is undefined. There's an infinite number of answers it reasonably could have, which is why it's undefined.
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Postby Xsyne » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:34 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Xsyne wrote:1/0 does not equal zero. 1/0 is undefined.

Technically it's infinity, but, whatever.

1/0 is not any of the infinities. 1/0 is undefined.
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Postby NERVUN » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Technically... Yes. Babies are not fully 'all there'. But most of them can become so.

Of course, I do have a problem with the whole 'Babies are born without religion so that means religion isn't real' argument because babies are also born without knowledge of math, law, morals, or ice cream, and yet most would say those exist.

Children are born without ice-cream in Japan? What a strange country.

Knowledge of.

Both my sons did not know what ice cream was when they were born...

They do now of course. 8)
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