The Cummunist State wrote:OH, back on topic...uhh...well..um...No, religion isn't a mental illness. *originalfaces*
Wait... so it is a mental illness?
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by Seperates » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:52 pm
The Cummunist State wrote:OH, back on topic...uhh...well..um...No, religion isn't a mental illness. *originalfaces*

by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:56 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Seperates » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:58 pm

by Arkotania » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:03 pm
Puissancevise wrote:Ok, so as some of you know, i have taken a firm IC stance on Religion being a mental illness. IRL, i feel the same way. However, i would like to know if any of you feel the same way.
I find that religion is illogical, unproven, and frankly, a load of ancient bullshit that has never really contributed anything to the world that outweighs the horrible things it has caused for thousands of years, (racism, sexism, burning at the stake, witchhunts, inquisitions, wars, etc.) and is furthermore a society-upgraded psychological illness induced by the ignorance of how the Universe works and the fear of death.
So, nationstates: Your thoughts.

by Seperates » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:06 pm
Arkotania wrote:Puissancevise wrote:Ok, so as some of you know, i have taken a firm IC stance on Religion being a mental illness. IRL, i feel the same way. However, i would like to know if any of you feel the same way.
I find that religion is illogical, unproven, and frankly, a load of ancient bullshit that has never really contributed anything to the world that outweighs the horrible things it has caused for thousands of years, (racism, sexism, burning at the stake, witchhunts, inquisitions, wars, etc.) and is furthermore a society-upgraded psychological illness induced by the ignorance of how the Universe works and the fear of death.
So, nationstates: Your thoughts.
So more than half the world population is mentally insane?
Interesting that we've been crazy for the past millenniums.

by The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:06 pm

by Seperates » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:09 pm

by The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:20 pm

by Arkotania » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:23 pm

by The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:40 pm

by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:44 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Jerusalem and Damascus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:46 pm

by The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:56 pm

by Wikkiwallana » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:01 pm
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:I don't think he wants frosted poop.
Frosted Butts, perhaps?
On topic, I find it interesting that the "yes" portion on the poll is steadily increasing.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Jensonian » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:02 pm

by Jerusalem and Damascus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:05 pm
Wikkiwallana wrote:Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Frosted Butts, perhaps?
On topic, I find it interesting that the "yes" portion on the poll is steadily increasing.
What the fuck did I just look at?!

by Arkotania » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:05 pm
Jensonian wrote:Please will one of you tell me WHY religion is so bad, because it supports morals? And yes, the crusades happened, because of corrupt people who were not following religion correctly, yes jihad happens, because of people who dot follow their religion correctly. The problems caused by religion is caused by people who don't follow religion Correctly, not by religion itself. A person who follows Christianity correctly loves all people, it is the second most important command in the bible, right behind love your god. Yes we will try to get you to see our way, but don't even atheists do that too? I qoute from the movie 3:10 to Yuma "Every man is right in his own eyes" .

by Desperate Measures » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:07 pm
Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:I don't think he wants frosted poop.
Frosted Butts, perhaps?
On topic, I find it interesting that the "yes" portion on the poll is steadily increasing.

by The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:08 pm
Jensonian wrote:Please will one of you tell me WHY religion is so bad, because it supports morals? And yes, the crusades happened, because of corrupt people who were not following religion correctly, yes jihad happens, because of people who dot follow their religion correctly. The problems caused by religion is caused by people who don't follow religion Correctly, not by religion itself. A person who follows Christianity correctly loves all people, it is the second most important command in the bible, right behind love your god. Yes we will try to get you to see our way, but don't even atheists do that too? I qoute from the movie 3:10 to Yuma "Every man is right in his own eyes" .

by The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:08 pm
Desperate Measures wrote:Jerusalem and Damascus wrote:
Frosted Butts, perhaps?
On topic, I find it interesting that the "yes" portion on the poll is steadily increasing.
It feels like eye cancer.

by Jerusalem and Damascus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:11 pm

by Kummen » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:15 pm

by Arkotania » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:32 pm
Kummen wrote:I don't know if it can be called a mental illness or not, but I DO know for a fact that it is dangerous, that it is destructive, and that it is anti-human. How is it anti-human? Allow me to explain: Religion is about subordinating your free will and self-interest to a higher power that, regardless of factual presence, has done absolutely nothing to earn your devotion, nor is it deserved. It also demands silent, unquestioned conformity, the kind you would find in any collectivist society. The merits of the individual in a religion are irrelevant and all that matters is a so-called "greater good". A religion would sooner drive us all toward self-destruction than ever do anything of help to us. Indeed, many say that humanity, ESPECIALLY the individual, is inherently evil and that any who deviate from the "norm" are heretics to be burnt at the stake. In the end, I say we give the gods exactly what they deserve and kill them all. And for those who are very likely to take that last line all too literally, I mean we, as a species, should wake up, and abandon this madness known as faith once and for all. We need nothing to "worship" except for ourselves.

by The Cummunist State » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:42 pm
Arkotania wrote:Kummen wrote:I don't know if it can be called a mental illness or not, but I DO know for a fact that it is dangerous, that it is destructive, and that it is anti-human. How is it anti-human? Allow me to explain: Religion is about subordinating your free will and self-interest to a higher power that, regardless of factual presence, has done absolutely nothing to earn your devotion, nor is it deserved. It also demands silent, unquestioned conformity, the kind you would find in any collectivist society. The merits of the individual in a religion are irrelevant and all that matters is a so-called "greater good". A religion would sooner drive us all toward self-destruction than ever do anything of help to us. Indeed, many say that humanity, ESPECIALLY the individual, is inherently evil and that any who deviate from the "norm" are heretics to be burnt at the stake. In the end, I say we give the gods exactly what they deserve and kill them all. And for those who are very likely to take that last line all too literally, I mean we, as a species, should wake up, and abandon this madness known as faith once and for all. We need nothing to "worship" except for ourselves.
I personally have no problem with religion or god but i am wary of believers/worshipers. Not of all of them but for those who attempt to define something in their own ways and pass it on as part of the religion. If we had no religion, i fear that things would not be any better. Religion at least unites a certain group of people whereas "worship" of humanity could cause unnecessary chaos. I personally believe that i will remain faithful to my religion however i believe that god has given us free will and in return simply wants us to thank him/her, which i have no problem doing. I don't see it as giving up free will because it is not as if i'm being restricted many things in my religion(and those things i am restricted from make logical sense in some way or another, even if they are debatable).
Simply, i believe a human should not assume that because they have faith in a religion they should assume that they possess no free will. They should also trust themselves in deciding what is good or not. The "greater good" thing in my opinion is a man-made belief that has been implemented slowly into the religious system over centuries, basically nothing but a bait for those who suffer. I believe that this should not be the case as those who adopt a religion and have a faith should do so with self-esteem and confidence. They should show that they trust in both god and themselves rather than join to reap benefits from others.
You can't possibly serve the greater good without having greatness to yourself. You must be proud to be human and proud that you were given your life. Since people are basically created by god, showing respect to yourself would be showing respect to god.
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