Killing Terrorists Less Troublesome than Burning their Books

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

Oh, I see. You know jack shit about the PLO. Did you read anything about them other than the intro paragraph on Wikipedia?


You can leave now.

Anti-Cosmic Gods, you have no right to tell people to leave a thread in NSG. Stop that tactic right now, please.

Are you serious? No, don't answer that, of course you are. Other posters regularly say worse things to each other, and to me. But I'm unpopular, so of course I get reprimanded for literally nothing. Glad you mods never disappoint

EDIT: In fact, another poster called me a "fool" a few posts before yours. Last I checked, that was flaming. But you just straight up ignored that. Good moderation. Well done. Way to be subtle about your blatant partisanship.

[Cromarty]

No, they elected a representative body that rejects terrorism and by extension, using your "logic" throughout this thread of radical Islam = terrorism, radical Islam.

Oh, I see. You know jack shit about the PLO. Did you read anything about them other than the intro paragraph on Wikipedia?

Actually I probably know a bit more about them than you.

Or perhaps my opinion isn't clouded by your irrational hatred of 'dem muzzies'.

You can leave now.

Has that ever worked? Cos it seems to be entirely ineffective... like the rest of your posts.

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

Actually I probably know a bit more about them than you.

Actually, I doubt that. In fact, I know you don't. And your rosey view of them demonstrates that. Also, the fact that you trumpet their supposed rejection of terrorism while ignoring their Second Intifada a decade later.

[AiliailiA]

Because I called your bullshit

The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) (Arabic: منظمة التحرير الفلسطينية‎; Munaẓẓamat at-Taḥrīr al-Filasṭīniyyah (help·info)) is a political and paramilitary organization which was created in 1964. It is recognized as the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people" by the United Nations and over 100 states with which it holds diplomatic relations, and has enjoyed observer status at the United Nations since 1974.[4][5] The PLO was considered by the United States and Israel to be a terrorist organization until the Madrid Conference in 1991. In 1993, PLO recognized Israel's right to exist in peace, accepted UN Security Council resolutions 242 and 338, and rejected "violence and terrorism"; in response, Israel officially recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people.[6]

Your turn.

So, they elected a terrorist organization...then the terrorist organization renounced terrorism (while still supporting it on the side) and this proves me wrong, how exactly? Don't answer that, its rhetorical. It doesn't disprove anything. In fact, it proves my point more than yours. So you didn't "call" me on anything.

In fact, they called a Second Intifada in 2000 and it has yet to end. Do you research the organization your about to use as evidence?

In 2000 ... when George W Bush was elected President after a campaign totally focussed on domestic issues. In which he openly admitted that he had never left the USA except for one time when he went to Mexico?

The American people didn't have a problem with that, and nor do I really. I even respect how he shut up and buckled down to address the eminent external threat to the USA ... you have to respect a good effort even by a loser ... and all the strategic mistakes that followed yes they must be sheeted home to the President and I don't blame the man that he wasn't up to it and couldn't tell good advice from bad. He wasn't up to the job and no-one is to blame for that but the American people who elected him.

Here's where you talk about President Carter.

[You-Gi-Owe]

Anti-Cosmic Gods, you have no right to tell people to leave a thread in NSG. Stop that tactic right now, please.

Are you serious? No, don't answer that, of course you are. Other posters regularly say worse things to each other, and to me. But I'm unpopular, so of course I get reprimanded for literally nothing. Glad you mods never disappoint

I often tell the silly, the innefective, the stupid to, "go away". Of course, they seldom do, for long.

I understand your exasperation. I think the caution-non-warning to you was silly.

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

So, they elected a terrorist organization...then the terrorist organization renounced terrorism (while still supporting it on the side) and this proves me wrong, how exactly? Don't answer that, its rhetorical. It doesn't disprove anything. In fact, it proves my point more than yours. So you didn't "call" me on anything.

In fact, they called a Second Intifada in 2000 and it has yet to end. Do you research the organization your about to use as evidence?

In 2000 ... when George W Bush was elected President after a campaign totally focussed on domestic issues. In which he openly admitted that he had never left the USA except for one time when he went to Mexico?

The American people didn't have a problem with that, and nor do I really. I even respect how he shut up and buckled down to address the eminent external threat to the USA ... you have to respect a good effort even by a loser ... and all the strategic mistakes that followed yes they must be sheeted home to the President and I don't blame the man that he wasn't up to it and couldn't tell good advice from bad. He wasn't up to the job and no-one is to blame for that but the American people who elected him.

Here's where you talk about President Carter.

.......what the fuck does any of what I said about the PLO and their "new found" acceptance of terrorism?

[Cromarty]

Actually I probably know a bit more about them than you.

Actually, I doubt that. In fact, I know you don't. And your rosey view of them demonstrates that. Also, the fact that you trumpet their supposed rejection of terrorism while ignoring their Second Intifada a decade later.

I'm not ignoring the Second Intifada, I'm discounting your Israel slanted view that it was terrorism, rather than an escalation of the Palestinian people fighting for their independence.

[Alien Space Bats]

I'm sorry, I usually try to avoid YGO flame-bait threads when I can, but...

Did someone actually try to make the argument that Islam inspires terrorism, whereas other faiths (such as Christianity) don't?

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

Actually, I doubt that. In fact, I know you don't. And your rosey view of them demonstrates that. Also, the fact that you trumpet their supposed rejection of terrorism while ignoring their Second Intifada a decade later.

I'm discounting your Israel slanted view that it was terrorism

....you....you do realize I have a lower view of Israel than I do Palestine, right?

Besides, it was terrorism. They used fear as a weapon to achieve their military and political ends. That defines terrorism. Whether or not their cause is just is irrelevant.

[AiliailiA]

In 2000 ... when George W Bush was elected President after a campaign totally focussed on domestic issues. In which he openly admitted that he had never left the USA except for one time when he went to Mexico?

The American people didn't have a problem with that, and nor do I really. I even respect how he shut up and buckled down to address the eminent external threat to the USA ... you have to respect a good effort even by a loser ... and all the strategic mistakes that followed yes they must be sheeted home to the President and I don't blame the man that he wasn't up to it and couldn't tell good advice from bad. He wasn't up to the job and no-one is to blame for that but the American people who elected him.

Here's where you talk about President Carter.

.......what the fuck does any of what I said about the PLO and their "new found" acceptance of terrorism?

Quite simply, that you hold the PLO to standards of the year 2000.

I hold you to the same standards. Are you proud of the choice you made then?

[AiliailiA]

I'm discounting your Israel slanted view that it was terrorism

....you....you do realize I have a lower view of Israel than I do Palestine, right?

Besides, it was terrorism. They used fear as a weapon to achieve their military and political ends. That defines terrorism. Whether or not their cause is just is irrelevant.

Shock and Awe.

Aka Terror.

EDIT: Equates with Blitzkrieg, too.

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

.......what the fuck does any of what I said about the PLO and their "new found" acceptance of terrorism?

Quite simply, that you hold the PLO to standards of the year 2000.

I hold you to the same standards. Are you proud of the choice you made then?

Huh?


What choice did I make in 2000, pray tell?

....you....you do realize I have a lower view of Israel than I do Palestine, right?

Besides, it was terrorism. They used fear as a weapon to achieve their military and political ends. That defines terrorism. Whether or not their cause is just is irrelevant.

Shock and Awe.

Aka Terror.

Are you trying to get me to condemn US military policy thinking that will somehow prove me a hypocrite and win the argument? I'll save you the baiting-I condemn US military policy under George W Bush. And most US military policy under Barrack Obama.

[You-Gi-Owe]

I'm sorry, I usually try to avoid YGO flame-bait threads when I can, but...

Did someone actually try to make the argument that Islam inspires terrorism, whereas other faiths (such as Christianity) don't?

Keep trying to resist. But, if you can't, can you help keep to the stated topic?

That said, I find nothing in the New Testament that tells me to commit violence in the name of Jesus.

[Alyakia]

is this one of those times where liberals confuse ancaps with republicans and say silly things and everyone ends up embarrased and we all look back on it and laugh awkwardly

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

is this one of those times where liberals confuse ancaps with republicans and say silly things and everyone ends up embarrased

Pretty much

[Desperate Measures]

I'm sorry, I usually try to avoid YGO flame-bait threads when I can, but...

Did someone actually try to make the argument that Islam inspires terrorism, whereas other faiths (such as Christianity) don't?

Keep trying to resist. But, if you can't, can you help keep to the stated topic?

That said, I find nothing in the New Testament that tells me to commit violence in the name of Jesus.

"But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.”
Luke 19:27

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

Keep trying to resist. But, if you can't, can you help keep to the stated topic?

That said, I find nothing in the New Testament that tells me to commit violence in the name of Jesus.

"But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.”
Luke 19:27

I can't remember off the top of my head, but what verse is it where Jesus commands people to be brought into the house, even if it is against their will? That passage that since it was written was interpreted as GOD WANTS US TO FORCE CONVERSION!

[AiliailiA]

Quite simply, that you hold the PLO to standards of the year 2000.

I hold you to the same standards. Are you proud of the choice you made then?

Huh?


What choice did I make in 2000, pray tell?

Shock and Awe.

Aka Terror.

Are you trying to get me to condemn US military policy thinking that will somehow prove me a hypocrite and win the argument? I'll save you the baiting-I condemn US military policy under George W Bush. And most US military policy under Barrack Obama.

I'm not trying to win "the argument".

Frankly, "the argument" you are engaged in is foolish and obscene. I frankly don't give a dead pope's ass about your opinion, and proving you wrong is far beneath me. Some might call you a troll, but I'd call you a zombie. You are dead, but you keep lumbering forward until someone blows your brains out ... and I can't do that. I'd back myself to bring down a mosquito with a rubber band using only my feet, but blowing your brains out would require marksmanship I do not have.

I'm saying that the PLO does not represent all Palestinians. And far less does it represent all of the Middle East. Holding the PLO up as representative of Arabs is like holding the Westboro Baptist Church up as representative of Americans.

[You-Gi-Owe]

Keep trying to resist. But, if you can't, can you help keep to the stated topic?

That said, I find nothing in the New Testament that tells me to commit violence in the name of Jesus.

"But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.”
Luke 19:27

Nice cherry-picking, you silly. You lifted one line from a parable that Jesus was quoting. This isn't a commandment.

Go away.

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

Some might call you a troll, but I'd call you a zombie. You are dead, but you keep lumbering forward until someone blows your brains out ... and I can't do that. I'd back myself to bring down a mosquito with a rubber band using only my feet, but blowing your brains out would require marksmanship I do not have.

Disagrees with you = clearly a zombie

I'm saying that the PLO does not represent all Palestinians. And far less does it represent all of the Middle East. Holding the PLO up as representative of Arabs is like holding the Westboro Baptist Church up as representative of Americans.

The PLO was just one of many examples that someone else brought up.

[Desperate Measures]

"But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.”
Luke 19:27

Nice cherry-picking, you silly. You lifted one line from a parable that Jesus was quoting. This isn't a commandment.

Go away.

No... not going away.
People can twist things to mean anything that they want them to.
"Matthew 10:34. "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Christ came to bring peace between people and God. But the inevitable result of Jesus' coming is conflict between good and evil on the earth.

· Luke 22:36-38. "If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Thus Jesus warned his disciples of perilous times to come. They would need defense and protection. These are not the words of a pacifist. (This does not conflict with Jesus' forbidding Peter to use a sword in a religious cause -- Matthew 26:52; John 18:36.)

· John 2:15. "So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area...." Jesus violently drove the money changers from the outer court of the Temple. The Greek language implies that he used the whip on the money changers as well as on the sheep and oxen. Physical force can be applied with justice. "
http://www.ptm.org/02PT/MayJun/war.htm

[Gravlen]

Are you saying that US soldiers who happen to be muslims are all war criminals?

That is a deliberate misrepresentation of what I said,

Actually, no, it's not a misrepresentation. It's an effort to draw your attention to the fact that you generalize "muslims" as if they were a single homhgenous group. They aren't.

And since you imply that muslims don't make a distinction between soldiers and civilians when they attack, and since there are muslim soldiers in the US armed forces, you are really claiming that US soldiers are guilty of war crimes.

All because of your lazy and inaccurate generalization.

but honesty is something the liberals here are lacking in their entirety so I shouldn't be surprised.

Who says I'm a liberal?

[The Archregimancy]

Are you serious? No, don't answer that, of course you are. Other posters regularly say worse things to each other, and to me. But I'm unpopular, so of course I get reprimanded for literally nothing.

You must have missed the post directly after the one you objected to where I similarly asked Call to Power to stop baiting You-Gi-Owe.

You have accrued no formal warning. Nothing has been added to your record. I don't care whether you're popular or unpopular - in fact your own assessment of your popularity is wholly irrelevant. A quick check reveals you've never received a single formal warning from me previously.

I am merely politely asking people on both sides of a contentious thread to play nice, and I'm sorry you apparently find a gentle reminder of basic forum etiquette to be personally offensive.

Go away.

Again, let's please not use this tactic. It achieves nothing, and only serves to inflame discussion in an already emotive topic.

[The Archregimancy]

I'm not trying to win "the argument".

Frankly, "the argument" you are engaged in is foolish and obscene. I frankly don't give a dead pope's ass about your opinion, and proving you wrong is far beneath me. Some might call you a troll, but I'd call you a zombie. You are dead, but you keep lumbering forward until someone blows your brains out ... and I can't do that. I'd back myself to bring down a mosquito with a rubber band using only my feet, but blowing your brains out would require marksmanship I do not have.

Over the top.

*** Warned for flamebaiting. ***

Everyone... COOL IT.

I'm this close to locking this thread.

[Demen 2]

Lmfao what.