Killing Terrorists Less Troublesome than Burning their Books

[You-Gi-Owe]

People in Afghanistan are still rioting and being killed because U.S. military forces burn some copies of the Koran that the were believed had been notated to pass secret messages between Islamic prisoners.

Meanwhile, in Pakistan, Osama bin Laden's old house is being demolished. I'm surprised it didn't become a shrine to a fallen matyr. But, in retrospect, and I've heard, that the typical middle-eastern mind set respects strength, so they'll happily get rid of anything that reminds them of their failure to protect their once leader.

Rather than continuously apologizing to the Islamic world and looking weak, President Obama should say that he was destroying those books because they'd been desecrated by terrorists. Maybe we ought to have sent them to a type of courts martial panel by U.S. Military Islamic Chaplains for writing in their Korans?

What do you think?

[Genivaria]

I think you enjoy starting flame-bait threads.

[Call to power]

I don't think you understand how value works.

[Alyakia]

the typical middle eastern ind set respescts strengh

really force is the only languag they understand

nice title

[Euroslavia]

I'd say you're making a pretty terrible comparison of Islam to terrorists, and some pretty ignorant generalizations about 'middle eastern' minds.

[Alyakia]

the typical middle eastern ind set respescts strengh

really force is the only languag they understand

nice title

and abaric

perhaps farsi or urdu

or maybe even french

or hell even english

but really this is besides the point

you need to focus on the point

. <--- the point

[Alyakia]

Meanwhile, in Pakistan, Osama bin Laden's old house is being demolished. I'm surprised it didn't become a shrine to a fallen matyr. But, in retrospect, and I've heard, that the typical middle-eastern mind set respects strength, so they'll happily get rid of anything that reminds them of their failure to protect their once leader.

Or, you know, they could be destroying it specifically to stop it being a shrine to a fallen martyr.

I'd like to hear how he was their "once leader" though.

[Cromarty]

itt being outraged over desecration of holy texts = terrorists.

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

I'd say you're making a pretty terrible comparison of Islam to terrorists, and some pretty ignorant generalizations about 'middle eastern' minds.

Considering the hilariously disproportional violence burning some copies of their silly book of fairy tales caused, I don't think YGO's claims or reactions are entirely unfounded- for perhaps the first time since he's been on NSG, maybe even his life.

itt being outraged over desecration of holy texts = terrorists.

No, but killing people over it does. As much as that may upset the Islamophiles in the West.

[Hittanryan]

Osama bin Laden was the leader of the Middle East? Diplomacy should consist of middle fingers and missile strikes?

Oh, what a wonderful world you live in, YGO.

[You-Gi-Owe]

I'd say you're making a pretty terrible comparison of Islam to terrorists, and some pretty ignorant generalizations about 'middle eastern' minds.

Considering the hilariously disproportional violence burning some copies of their silly book of fairy tales caused, I don't think YGO's claims or reactions are entirely unfounded- for perhaps the first time since he's been on NSG, maybe even his life.

Thank you.

But fopr the rest of you: If you spent less time looking to be offended, you might consider pondering the OP and answering the questions.

Should President Obama keep apologizing for desposing of desecrated Korans?

Should captured terrorists be punished under Islamic Law for desecrating their Korans?

[Call to power]

Considering the hilariously disproportional violence burning some copies of their silly book of fairy tales caused, I don't think YGO's claims or reactions are entirely unfounded- for perhaps the first time since he's been on NSG, maybe even his life.

I dunno I think if I lived thousands of miles from any toilet paper I would be pretty damn pissed if someone wasted a good Koran like that.

Should President Obama keep apologizing for desposing of desecrated Korans?

Probably. Its not in the object but what it represents and all that, sure you could moan about burning hamburgers but America is supposed to be better than this.

Should captured terrorists be punished under Islamic Law for desecrating their Korans?

Not by the US no and your constitution class should tell you as to why that is.

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

Should captured terrorists be punished under Islamic Law for desecrating their Korans?

I fully support this idea.

[Hittanryan]

Should President Obama keep apologizing for desposing disposing of desecrated Korans?

Considering most Muslims aren't terrorists, plenty of Muslims aren't offended when made aware of the circumstances, and that you're likely twisting his words into some kind of monkey-fist knot, then yes.

[Alyakia]

Considering the hilariously disproportional violence burning some copies of their silly book of fairy tales caused, I don't think YGO's claims or reactions are entirely unfounded- for perhaps the first time since he's been on NSG, maybe even his life.

Thank you.

But fopr the rest of you: If you spent less time looking to be offended, you might consider pondering the OP and answering the questions.

Should President Obama keep apologizing for desposing of desecrated Korans?

Should captured terrorists be punished under Islamic Law for desecrating their Korans?

If you spent less time making poorly thought out posts with offensive implcations...

Yes.

Yes.

[Euroslavia]

I'd say you're making a pretty terrible comparison of Islam to terrorists, and some pretty ignorant generalizations about 'middle eastern' minds.

Considering the hilariously disproportional violence burning some copies of their silly book of fairy tales caused, I don't think YGO's claims or reactions are entirely unfounded- for perhaps the first time since he's been on NSG, maybe even his life.

1. It's obvious that you're not a fan of religion, considering the above emphasis and that you don't care about how meaningful it is to Muslims. That in itself tells me that you don't exactly have much say in my eyes on why it was disproportional.
2. I didn't realize all Muslims lived in Afghanistan and were currently overreacting to the situation.

[Fnordgasm 5]

I'm just wondering and I know I'm better of asking an actual Muslim rather than interrupting what promises to be such a civil and enlightened discussion, but should the need arise how does one respectfully dispose of a Quran?

[Farnhamia]

I'm just wondering and I know I'm better of asking an actual Muslim rather than interrupting what promises to be such a civil and enlightened discussion, but should the need arise how does one respectfully dispose of a Quran?

You could leave it on the doorstep of a mosque in the middle of the night, I suppose. Or go around and ask if they would take of it for you.

[The Alma Mater]

I'm just wondering and I know I'm better of asking an actual Muslim rather than interrupting what promises to be such a civil and enlightened discussion, but should the need arise how does one respectfully dispose of a Quran?

You are allowed to weigh it down and put it in a river.

[Gravonia]

Considering the hilariously disproportional violence burning some copies of their silly book of fairy tales caused, I don't think YGO's claims or reactions are entirely unfounded- for perhaps the first time since he's been on NSG, maybe even his life.

Notwithstanding that,based on past experience it was pretty obvious that the Afghans would go mEntaL I don't think it's too much to ask for whoever ordered the books destroyed to have a care how it was done. If only for the PR value. They must have friendly Imams or whatever on the base they could have asked to deal with it, instead of getting a couple of grunts to chuck them in a brazier

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

Considering the hilariously disproportional violence burning some copies of their silly book of fairy tales caused, I don't think YGO's claims or reactions are entirely unfounded- for perhaps the first time since he's been on NSG, maybe even his life.

1. It's obvious that you're not a fan of religion, considering the above emphasis and that you don't care about how meaningful it is to Muslims. That in itself tells me that you don't exactly have much say in my eyes on why it was disproportional.

I am actually very spiritual, I just don't like Islam. And just because I dislike it, that doesn't render my opinion or feelings or views on the matter suddenly irrelevant. Or rather, if it does I'll remember thats how it works around here next time you have an opinion on something.

I know exactly why they think it was justified. Just like us treating these violent mobs like the enemies they are and annihilating them would be justified. But I know you wont support that, because apperantly burning Holy Books does merit violence, but violence does not merit violence. Except I also know if some radical batshit Christians killed someone over burning a Bible, you wouldn't be urging tolerance and understanding with them. Truly your orientalism knows no bounds.

2. I didn't realize all Muslims lived in Afghanistan and were currently overreacting to the situation.

Lets not pretend like this shit doesn't happen everywhere. This is just a localized symptom of a bigger problem.

[Fnordgasm 5]

I'm just wondering and I know I'm better of asking an actual Muslim rather than interrupting what promises to be such a civil and enlightened discussion, but should the need arise how does one respectfully dispose of a Quran?

You are allowed to weigh it down and put it in a river.

Really? I thought that was just cats..

[The Alma Mater]

You are allowed to weigh it down and put it in a river.

Really? I thought that was just cats..

Naturally. Cats are holy as well after all.

[Revolutopia]

Rather than continuously apologizing to the Islamic world and looking weak, President Obama should say that he was destroying those books because they'd been desecrated by terrorists.

I think a better way for Obama not to look weak, is him continuing to reign death on Al Qaeda leaders from missile drones instead of getting stuck in unwinnerable and avoidable wars in the Middle East.

[Gravonia]

Lets not pretend like this shit doesn't happen everywhere. This is just a localized symptom of a bigger problem.

Doesn't happen round my way