Rick Santorum Megathread: A Frothy Mixture of Opinions

[Revolutopia]

War is really really kewl, especially when you are a teenage chickenhawk.

What's Finnish for "chickenhawk"? Can we just stick the words together, like the Germans do?

According to a quick google search it is kanahaukka or some eleven letter word that starts with a H and ends with an A.

[Gauthier]

What's Finnish for "chickenhawk"? Can we just stick the words together, like the Germans do?

According to a quick google search it is kanahaukka or some eleven letter word that starts with a H and ends with an A.

Here's His Sign:

[Poorisolation]

Because, like Farn said Santorum is a hateful bigot that felt the need to go out and insult a whole group of individuals for the sole reason that didn't approve of getting arrested on account of whom they love.

Sure, I dislike Santorum's socially conservative policies too, they're retarded to be honest. But that doesn't justify insulting him. Besides, he has a sound foreign policy (supports santions and intervention in Syria and Iran) and economic policy (supports right to work).

Except that his polices are not sound, I mean you miss the c out of sanctions as a typo he criticises the POTUS for adding to deficit which shows how little he understand who controls the budget and money raising powers in the US system of government and then comes up with policies that he does not bother to cost but when other people do they find are likely to add to the...yes you guessed the structural deficit of the Federal Government of the USA.

Most of his FP is likewise fluff high and detail light.

I mean yes I am fully on board not wanting Iran to have nuclear weapons but a balanced assessment of the threat and the measures most likely to contain them would impress me more than being for intervention as you so succinctly put it. The threat value of an Iran with four, yes ladies four, baby nukes is not actually substantially raised. The consequences of an inept military strike further destabilising a region that we all know and love because our history books are so full of tales of soldiers dying there are dramatically more serious.

Maybe a well targeted and executed military option is the best option but former Senator Santorum has not shown anyone that he is the man to be able to recognise such a plan should it be presented to him by the Joint Chiefs.

As to insulting the man, well he has shown little qualm about insulting anyone else.

[Honorable Citizens]

Rick Santorum is a pot-smoking (a picture came out today) chicken hawk. End of story.

[Ashmoria]

Rick Santorum is a pot-smoking (a picture came out today) chicken hawk. End of story.

i need a link to that photo

[The Alma Mater]

Because, like Farn said Santorum is a hateful bigot that felt the need to go out and insult a whole group of individuals for the sole reason that didn't approve of getting arrested on account of whom they love.

Sure, I dislike Santorum's socially conservative policies too, they're retarded to be honest. But that doesn't justify insulting him.

The guy throws insults around like other people throw rice at weddings. He makes stuff up, tells lies and when caught is too cowardly to fess up.

What must he do before one is allowed to call him frothy ?

[Gauthier]

Sure, I dislike Santorum's socially conservative policies too, they're retarded to be honest. But that doesn't justify insulting him.

The guy throws insults around like other people throw rice at weddings. He makes stuff up, tells lies and when caught is too cowardly to fess up.

What must he do before one is allowed to call him frothy ?

Get caught sodomizing a male dog with resulting santorum?

[Alien Space Bats]

Some angsty socialist liberal came up with that name for Santorum as an insult; that's why. And I see no difference between nigger and frothy, both are extremely insulting words that shouldn't be used.

Because only an "angsty socialist liberal" would be offended at having gay sex equated with "man on dog"; good Republican gays just laugh it off and say, "Well, yeah, all the neighborhood dogs run from me when I take a walk!"

New paradigm here: We start making sexually derogatory remarks about Finns, because Hippo's a good sport. How's that sound?

<pause>

Tell me, Hipster, why do conservatives think its their God-given right to be vile towards people they don't like, while we all have to be nice towards you guys?

[Jocabia]

I'm sorry but if you really can't see the difference between nigger and frothy there is not much point in continuing to discuss, well, anything. One has hundreds of years of slavery and economic injustice behind it, the other has, um, well, a relationship to lattes behind it. Seriously, it's one thing to have debates about things that are debatable, but you might as well be arguing that you see no difference between the holocaust and one person dying from old age.

[Poorisolation]

Some angsty socialist liberal came up with that name for Santorum as an insult; that's why. And I see no difference between nigger and frothy, both are extremely insulting words that shouldn't be used.

Because only an "angsty socialist liberal" would be offended at having gay sex equated with "man on dog"; good Republican gays just laugh it off and say, "Well, yeah, all the neighborhood dogs run from me when I take a walk!"

New paradigm here: We start making sexually derogatory remarks about Finns, because Hippo's a good sport. How's that sound?

<pause>

Tell me, Hipster, why do conservatives think its their God-given right to be vile towards people they don't like, while we all have to be nice towards you guys?

hoi, you know full well that conservatives the world over resent being compared with the radical reactionaries passing themselves off under that title in the US

Real conservatives even in America don't think it is okay to insult people they don't happen to like.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Because only an "angsty socialist liberal" would be offended at having gay sex equated with "man on dog"; good Republican gays just laugh it off and say, "Well, yeah, all the neighborhood dogs run from me when I take a walk!"

New paradigm here: We start making sexually derogatory remarks about Finns, because Hippo's a good sport. How's that sound?

<pause>

Tell me, Hipster, why do conservatives think its their God-given right to be vile towards people they don't like, while we all have to be nice towards you guys?

hoi, you know full well that conservatives the world over resent being compared with the radical reactionaries passing themselves off under that title in the US

Real conservatives even in America don't think it is okay to insult people they don't happen to like.

No true scostman is a fallacy as always. "real conservatives" are whatever conservatism has been defined as by the people using it. Self-identifying conservatives are largely whiny morons who are fueled entirely by a hatred of others.

[Soccersian]

I see the majority of these posts as hateful towards a former Senator who left on great terms (minus an election that was more of an indictment on President Bush than anything else) and is an advocate of family and faith first. What is wrong with this train of thought? Since when did caring for your family over your neighbor and praising God become a thing of the past?

[Revolutopia]

I see the majority of these posts as hateful towards a former Senator who left on great terms (minus an election that was more of an indictment on President Bush than anything else) and is an advocate of family and faith first. What is wrong with this train of thought? Since when did caring for your family over your neighbor and praising God become a thing of the past?

He lost by the largest margin of defeat for an incumbent senator since 1980, that is not leaving on great terms. And the reason people dislike him is because he is spiteful, ignorant, and hateful man who wishes to impose religious bigotry on the American people.

[Farnhamia]

I see the majority of these posts as hateful towards a former Senator who left on great terms (minus an election that was more of an indictment on President Bush than anything else) and is an advocate of family and faith first. What is wrong with this train of thought? Since when did caring for your family over your neighbor and praising God become a thing of the past?

Left on great terms? He was defeated by 17 points in that election. Seems to me that says he was doing something wrong. "Faith and family first" sounds great, doesn't it, but former Senator Santorum has consistently insulted who do not agree with his faith or his definition of the family. Saying that same-sex marriage is equivalent to "you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be." Man on child, man on dog. Right, thanks, Mr. Santorum.

He would deny me to have the joy of a family with the woman I love because it does not meet his definition of "how things should be," all the while singing hosannas to his own family. He thinks the separation of church and state in this country is wrong. He thinks wanting your kids to go to college is a mark of snobbery.

He is wrong for America.

[Soccersian]

I see the majority of these posts as hateful towards a former Senator who left on great terms (minus an election that was more of an indictment on President Bush than anything else) and is an advocate of family and faith first. What is wrong with this train of thought? Since when did caring for your family over your neighbor and praising God become a thing of the past?

He lost by the largest margin of defeat for an incumbent senator since 1980, that is not leaving on great terms. And the reason people dislike him is because he is spiteful, ignorant, and hateful man who wishes to impose religious bigotry on the American people.

That's a cute attack with nothing to back it up. I have never heard him attack other religions. Instead, I've heard him having to constantly defend his own. Since when was defending a personal religion and imposition of will?

[The Alma Mater]

I see the majority of these posts as hateful towards a former Senator who left on great terms (minus an election that was more of an indictment on President Bush than anything else) and is an advocate of family and faith first. What is wrong with this train of thought? Since when did caring for your family over your neighbor and praising God become a thing of the past?

When did people start seeing liars and hatemongers as advocates of their faith ?

[Soccersian]

I see the majority of these posts as hateful towards a former Senator who left on great terms (minus an election that was more of an indictment on President Bush than anything else) and is an advocate of family and faith first. What is wrong with this train of thought? Since when did caring for your family over your neighbor and praising God become a thing of the past?

Left on great terms? He was defeated by 17 points in that election. Seems to me that says he was doing something wrong. "Faith and family first" sounds great, doesn't it, but former Senator Santorum has consistently insulted who do not agree with his faith or his definition of the family. Saying that same-sex marriage is equivalent to "you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be." Man on child, man on dog. Right, thanks, Mr. Santorum.

He would deny me to have the joy of a family with the woman I love because it does not meet his definition of "how things should be," all the while singing hosannas to his own family. He thinks the separation of church and state in this country is wrong. He thinks wanting your kids to go to college is a mark of snobbery.

He is wrong for America.

First of all, where in the Constitution does it say that there is a separation of church and state? Second of all, the definition of marriage implies pro-creation. Two penises in a monogamous cannot procreate.

[Revolutopia]

He lost by the largest margin of defeat for an incumbent senator since 1980, that is not leaving on great terms. And the reason people dislike him is because he is spiteful, ignorant, and hateful man who wishes to impose religious bigotry on the American people.

That's a cute attack with nothing to back it up. I have never heard him attack other religions. Instead, I've heard him having to constantly defend his own. Since when was defending a personal religion and imposition of will?

When he repeatedly argues for Christian Dogma to become American law, aka on issues of abortion, contraception, gay marriage, separation of church and state, etc.

[Soccersian]

That's a cute attack with nothing to back it up. I have never heard him attack other religions. Instead, I've heard him having to constantly defend his own. Since when was defending a personal religion and imposition of will?

When he repeatedly argues for Christian Dogma to become American law, aka on issues of abortion, contraception, gay marriage, separation of church and state, etc.

President Obama is a Christian who opposes gay marriage personally, as does Rick Santorum. Boom. Go....

[The Alma Mater]

Left on great terms? He was defeated by 17 points in that election. Seems to me that says he was doing something wrong. "Faith and family first" sounds great, doesn't it, but former Senator Santorum has consistently insulted who do not agree with his faith or his definition of the family. Saying that same-sex marriage is equivalent to "you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be." Man on child, man on dog. Right, thanks, Mr. Santorum.

He would deny me to have the joy of a family with the woman I love because it does not meet his definition of "how things should be," all the while singing hosannas to his own family. He thinks the separation of church and state in this country is wrong. He thinks wanting your kids to go to college is a mark of snobbery.

He is wrong for America.

First of all, where in the Constitution does it say that there is a separation of church and state? Second of all, the definition of marriage implies pro-creation. Two penises in a monogamous cannot procreate.

marriage
[mar-ij]   Example Sentences Origin
mar·riage
   [mar-ij] Show IPA
noun
1.
a.
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation.
b.
a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation.
2.
the state, condition, or relationship of being married; wedlock: a happy marriage. Synonyms: matrimony. Antonyms: single life, bachelorhood, spinsterhood, singleness; separation.
3.
the legal or religious ceremony that formalizes the decision of two people to live as a married couple, including the accompanying social festivities: to officiate at a marriage. Synonyms: nuptials, marriage ceremony, wedding. Antonyms: divorce, annulment.
4.
a relationship in which two people have pledged themselves to each other in the manner of a husband and wife, without legal sanction: trial marriage.
5.
any close or intimate association or union: the marriage of words and music in a hit song. Synonyms: blend, merger, unity, oneness; alliance, confederation. Antonyms: separation, division, disunion, schism.

Where in this definition is the whole procreation implied ?
I do btw disagree with this definition. If only because it mentions 2 people - while the holy Bible tells us polygamy is fine.

[Revolutopia]

When he repeatedly argues for Christian Dogma to become American law, aka on issues of abortion, contraception, gay marriage, separation of church and state, etc.

President Obama is a Christian who opposes gay marriage personally, as does Rick Santorum. Boom. Go....

Obama likely supports gay marriage and just keeps it silent as it is not worth fueling attacks from GOP over it right now, moreover Obama has never supported laws banning homosexuality like Santorum has nor has he compared homosexuality to bestiality.

[Farnhamia]

Left on great terms? He was defeated by 17 points in that election. Seems to me that says he was doing something wrong. "Faith and family first" sounds great, doesn't it, but former Senator Santorum has consistently insulted who do not agree with his faith or his definition of the family. Saying that same-sex marriage is equivalent to "you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be." Man on child, man on dog. Right, thanks, Mr. Santorum.

He would deny me to have the joy of a family with the woman I love because it does not meet his definition of "how things should be," all the while singing hosannas to his own family. He thinks the separation of church and state in this country is wrong. He thinks wanting your kids to go to college is a mark of snobbery.

He is wrong for America.

First of all, where in the Constitution does it say that there is a separation of church and state? Second of all, the definition of marriage implies pro-creation. Two penises in a monogamous cannot procreate.

Marriage may imply procreation to you. It is not the be-all and end-all of marriage. Will you invalidate the marriages of infertile heterosexual couples? They cannot procreate, either.

What harm does a same-sex marriage do anyone? Explain that to me.

[Soccersian]

I'm not defending every policy or quote Santorum has ever said at the pulpit (see what I did there?), however I consider him the second-best candidate in the GOP field right now. Mind you, the three guys I wanted to run didn't end up running and this field is the weakest since the 1970s. I'm simply stating that as a Catholic who understands doctrine, I understand MOST of where his personal viewpoints come from.

That said, if we're going to talk about the gay marriage issue, the primary concern here is the word "marriage." Civil unions, if established through the proper channels (state-wide election after the minimum amount of signatures to get it on said ballot are attained), and proper procedure followed (Tenth Amendment, COTUS), then there is nothing a president could do about it given the law of the land.

[Revolutopia]

That said, if we're going to talk about the gay marriage issue, the primary concern here is the word "marriage." Civil unions, if established through the proper channels (state-wide election after the minimum amount of signatures to get it on said ballot are attained), and proper procedure followed (Tenth Amendment, COTUS), then there is nothing a president could do about it given the law of the land.

Separate is not equal, moreover Frothy doesn't support Civil Unions either. Additionally, there is the factor of him wanting to amend the Constitution to deny individuals equal rights because of his religious bigotry.

[The Alma Mater]

I'm not defending every policy or quote Santorum has ever said at the pulpit (see what I did there?), however I consider him the second-best candidate in the GOP field right now.

But does that make him a good candidate, or does that just imply the whole Gop-field is pathetic ?