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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:32 pm

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I'm going to take that as your admission that you can't argue, or know how laws work in this country.

I have yet to see any actual evidence or arguments in any of your posts. Mostly generic ad-hominem attacks on your idea of "liberals," misinformed generalizations, and some tired old talking points. Not really enough to argue against.

Since this is going nowhere, what say we all get back to Santorum's insanity?


No offense, but given the caliber of your posts to date, you don't seem to be the kind of person that bases their opinions off of reason. Also you seemed to have missed when I posed this link.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:33 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:Such as?


Do you really want me to list off all the crops that can be harvested through combine? How much time do you have?

Stick to the ones that can grow in Georgia.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:34 pm

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Hittanryan wrote:I have yet to see any actual evidence or arguments in any of your posts. Mostly generic ad-hominem attacks on your idea of "liberals," misinformed generalizations, and some tired old talking points. Not really enough to argue against.

Since this is going nowhere, what say we all get back to Santorum's insanity?


No offense, but given the caliber of your posts to date, you don't seem to be the kind of person that bases their opinions off of reason. Also you seemed to have missed when I posed this link.

S/He's been using far more reason than you.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:36 pm

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Lakeland wrote:I don't think you're that stupid. So I won't insult you with an actual response.

Well I'm afraid that it is a little late for that; considering you are implying that the military make better law enforcement officers... than our law enforcement officers.


What law enforcement officers? The few poor schmucks patrolling miles and miles of desert totally overworked by the massive tidal wave of illegals? Next you're going to be shocked when I tell you how 1 person can't fend off a mob of thousands. :lol:

The whole point of bringing in the army is to put boots, and eyes on the ground.
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:36 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:I have yet to see any actual evidence or arguments in any of your posts. Mostly generic ad-hominem attacks on your idea of "liberals," misinformed generalizations, and some tired old talking points. Not really enough to argue against.

Since this is going nowhere, what say we all get back to Santorum's insanity?


No offense, but given the caliber of your posts to date, you don't seem to be the kind of person that bases their opinions off of reason. Also you seemed to have missed when I posed this link.

Says the one who bases your choice of party off of "having strong principles," claims that political parties have direct control of outsourcing, compares the US to Greece, and is stuck in the 19th century on poverty. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:38 pm

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Yeah, it was great in the 60's when the University of Michigan in Flint denied my mother tenure because she "had a husband who could provide" for her, and so it was better to give the spot to a less qualified man with less experience so that "he'll be able to provide for his family".

And then there was the marital rape.

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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:39 pm

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Actually it does, depending on what the law is like it can be harder or easier to outsource jobs. Remember the "bad old days" or protectionism?

So are the political parties in direct control of sending jobs overseas or is someone else in direct control of sending jobs overseas?


You're just playing dumb at this point.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:40 pm

Lakeland wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:So are the political parties in direct control of sending jobs overseas or is someone else in direct control of sending jobs overseas?


You're just playing dumb at this point.

Looks more like the Socratic Method to me.
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:40 pm

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You just confirmed yourself for a leftist dido head I hope you realize.

As to debt to GDP, we're right up their with Greece. But I think we'll see Japan start to falter before us, as their debt to GDP is much higher and they aren't growing. On our present course of fate is sealed. Also the left was howling about Bush increasing the debt only a few years ago, so don't try to bullshit me.


Quaint. Japan has nothing to worry about. Neither does the US. Both are 100% safe, and unless one of them suddenly gets hit by a meteor 300 miles in diameter, they'll continue to be fine.


Cool, let's rack up an external debt 10000000% of the GDP. We're 100% safe guys.

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Oh, you forgot about that didn't you? :roll:
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:41 pm

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Quaint. Japan has nothing to worry about. Neither does the US. Both are 100% safe, and unless one of them suddenly gets hit by a meteor 300 miles in diameter, they'll continue to be fine.


Cool, let's rack up an external debt 10000000% of the GDP. We're 100% safe guys.

Credit rating downgraded


Oh, you forgot about that didn't you? :roll:


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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:42 pm

Lakeland wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Quaint. Japan has nothing to worry about. Neither does the US. Both are 100% safe, and unless one of them suddenly gets hit by a meteor 300 miles in diameter, they'll continue to be fine.


Cool, let's rack up an external debt 10000000% of the GDP. We're 100% safe guys.

Credit rating downgraded


Oh, you forgot about that didn't you? :roll:


Your sarcasm detector failed to trigger there. :P

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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:43 pm

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You just confirmed yourself for a leftist dido head I hope you realize.

As to debt to GDP, we're right up their with Greece. But I think we'll see Japan start to falter before us, as their debt to GDP is much higher and they aren't growing. On our present course of fate is sealed. Also the left was howling about Bush increasing the debt only a few years ago, so don't try to bullshit me.


You do realize there's a difference between debt and deficit, right?


No! I know nothing of economics! Please enlighten me oh wise one with the amazing point you were about to make.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:43 pm

Lakeland wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Quaint. Japan has nothing to worry about. Neither does the US. Both are 100% safe, and unless one of them suddenly gets hit by a meteor 300 miles in diameter, they'll continue to be fine.


Cool, let's rack up an external debt 10000000% of the GDP. We're 100% safe guys.

Credit rating downgraded


Oh, you forgot about that didn't you? :roll:

No, history is on his side, we've had a much, much higher Debt to GDP rate than this and payed it back down.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:43 pm

Kaeshar wrote:
Lakeland wrote:
Cool, let's rack up an external debt 10000000% of the GDP. We're 100% safe guys.

Credit rating downgraded


Oh, you forgot about that didn't you? :roll:


Your sarcasm detector failed to trigger there. :P


I'm perfectly serious. Because I know more than absolutely nothing about the subject at hand.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm

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Or, yah know, just higher legal workers for a fair wage. :roll:

The farmers weren't interested in doing that.
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Tough shit to the farmers, the regulatory environment has changed. Change or perish.
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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:44 pm

Eh, hard to tell when NETM is being sarcastic....

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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:45 pm

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We do need additional enforcement for the border.

Then we should spend the money to hire extra border enforcement agents. The military is not trained in enforcing border laws. It also is not their job to enforce our laws.


Oh right I forgot, they are only trained to "defend freedom", my bad.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:45 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:The farmers weren't interested in doing that.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/georgi ... rs-fields/


Tough shit to the farmers, the regulatory environment has changed. Change or perish.

Yes, let's shoot our country in the foot, that will work so well.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:46 pm

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No offense, but given the caliber of your posts to date, you don't seem to be the kind of person that bases their opinions off of reason. Also you seemed to have missed when I posed this link.

S/He's been using far more reason than you.


From such an "unbiased" judge such as yourself, I'm totally convinced. :roll:
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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:47 pm

Lakeland wrote:Oh right I forgot, they are only trained to "defend freedom", my bad.


You're damn straight that's all they're trained to do.
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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:48 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Lakeland wrote:Oh right I forgot, they are only trained to "defend freedom", my bad.


You're damn straight that's all they're trained to do.


That and rape servicewomen. Can't be helped, men are unstoppable rape machines. FOX News said so.
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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:49 pm

Lakeland wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:So are the political parties in direct control of sending jobs overseas or is someone else in direct control of sending jobs overseas?


You're just playing dumb at this point.

Ok...

So when you asked who sent the jobs overseas, what exactly did you mean?
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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:49 pm

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No offense, but given the caliber of your posts to date, you don't seem to be the kind of person that bases their opinions off of reason. Also you seemed to have missed when I posed this link.

Says the one who bases your choice of party off of "having strong principles," claims that political parties have direct control of outsourcing, compares the US to Greece, and is stuck in the 19th century on poverty. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.


Again, from such an unbiased judge too, I'm totally impressed by your opinion. :roll:

So let me get this straight, according to your own logic. The EPA has no ability to regulate pollution, am I hearing you correct? Because clearly the government has no ability to control what companies do or don't do within their own borders. Do you think you are being clever with such a stupid argument?
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:50 pm

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Cool, let's rack up an external debt 10000000% of the GDP. We're 100% safe guys.

Credit rating downgraded


Oh, you forgot about that didn't you? :roll:

No, history is on his side, we've had a much, much higher Debt to GDP rate than this and payed it back down.


Not really, we are fast passing or have passed our all time post WWII high debt to GDP ratio, and we had a much higher tax rate and better economy at that time.
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:52 pm

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Hittanryan wrote:Says the one who bases your choice of party off of "having strong principles," claims that political parties have direct control of outsourcing, compares the US to Greece, and is stuck in the 19th century on poverty. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.


Again, from such an unbiased judge too, I'm totally impressed by your opinion. :roll:

So let me get this straight, according to your own logic. The EPA has no ability to regulate pollution, am I hearing you correct? Because clearly the government has no ability to control what companies do or don't do within their own borders. Do you think you are being clever with such a stupid argument?

I don't know, maybe you'd like to explain how outsourcing and illegal immigration are still problems, if the government has the private sector well under control?
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