Rick Santorum Megathread: A Frothy Mixture of Opinions

[United Dependencies]

Seriously though, we should get the border secured first before we talk about amnesty or whatever they want to call it,

I agree, militarize the border. We should use that giant army of ours for some good for once.

and what? shoot the immigrants?

[New England and The Maritimes]

What, did you miss the balanced budget amendment? Cutting spending during a recession? The destruction of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security? Unilateral, aggressive foreign policy? You haven't exactly explained how these things would be good for the US at this point in time.

Furthermore, the Republicans' policies have been proven not to work at all. Businesses recently flat-out stated that lower corporate taxes wouldn't convince them to hire more people. You don't hire people for the hell of it, you hire when the market is right. Deregulation allowed the financial sector to take huge gambles on subprime mortgages that eventually came crumbling down around us. Lower taxes on the rich are one of the many Republican ideals that contribute to the deficits. Spreading democracy through invasion and occupation doesn't work. Consistency isn't a virtue when you're consistently wrong.

I already responded to the balanced budget amendment, you must have missed it. We aren't in a recession anymore, and yeah let's become Greece great idea. You mean people might actually have to rely on their families again? Perish the thought, why in only the last 5000 years of recorded human history people managed to get by without them. Unilateral aggressive policy, not seeing it, Iran isn't getting invaded.

Yup, democrats suck on social policy and economic policy, republicans just suck on economic policy. Pretty crappy choice I've got.

LOL. Comparing the US to Greece on any level is asinine. It shows how little you know about state finance, and thus how little say you ought to have in policy.

Iran isn't being invaded because we don't have Santorum in the white house. Republicans suck on everything, especially in airport bathrooms.

Yeah, conditions were so great before the creation of the welfare state that we decided to just shit all over everyone by creating programs to help the poor, because we knew it would piss off upstanding, righteous citizens like yourself. It's not like anybody was dying of famine before the welfare state.

Nope. Nobody ever starved to death when they sacked up and begged their poverty-stricken parents for the 0 assistance they could possibly provide.

[Lakeland]

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You didn't respond, you dismissed. [/box]
Actually I did, every state must balance it's budget.

We're nowhere near Greece

Yeah we've got a few more good decades before the shit hit's the fan.

your views on poverty sound like something from the 1800s.

And yours are from 1984

how is anti-abortion

Fetal personhood = expanding civil rights.

anti-contraception

So?

pro-death penalty

So?

anti-gun control

Anti second amendment there bub. Hah, and you claim to care about the constitution.

pro-war

Not really, Iran isn't getting invaded and Obama's running around carrying out extra-judicial assasinations on US citizens and supporting coups in Honduras. Or did you miss those things?

pro-rich

Pro-success

pro-religion

Yeah, let's not be charitable or anything.

anti-intellectual

I haven't seen this demonstrated, maybe you could provide some examples.

anti-environment

Again, haven't seen it.

Of course I'm ceding your points for sake of argument, I don't actually believe you are right on half of your claims.

[Lakeland]

Both parties.

Believe it or not, but this government does not control the economy like that.

Actually it does, depending on what the law is like it can be harder or easier to outsource jobs. Remember the "bad old days" or protectionism?

[Lakeland]

Alabama, I believe. And I made a thread on that, it did wonders in Alabama.

No, this was something different, not just about farm workers. Also, Georgia did the farm thing before Alabama did, and it left crops rotting in the fields across the state.

Perhaps they should plant crops that don't require so much manual labor.

[Lakeland]

I suppose you're going to tell me "GOP always bad! DNC always good!", get real. NAFTA. Who signed that legislation? Go on look it up.

I'm going to take that non-sequitur as conceding the argument.

I'm going to take that as your admission that you can't argue, or know how laws work in this country.

[Kaeshar]

No, this was something different, not just about farm workers. Also, Georgia did the farm thing before Alabama did, and it left crops rotting in the fields across the state.

Perhaps they should plant crops that don't require so much manual labor.

Such as what, wheat?

Perhaps they should invent robots to do such manual labor.

[Wikkiwallana]

No, this was something different, not just about farm workers. Also, Georgia did the farm thing before Alabama did, and it left crops rotting in the fields across the state.

Perhaps they should plant crops that don't require so much manual labor.

Such as?

[Lakeland]

I agree, militarize the border. We should use that giant army of ours for some good for once.

and what? shoot the immigrants?

I don't think you're that stupid. So I won't insult you with an actual response.

[Ravineworld]

Is it just me or does scamtorums daughter look like she just had really nasty sex?
Sorry, I just had to ask about these important issues

[Hittanryan]

I'm going to take that non-sequitur as conceding the argument.

I'm going to take that as your admission that you can't argue, or know how laws work in this country.

I have yet to see any actual evidence or arguments in any of your posts. Mostly generic ad-hominem attacks on your idea of "liberals," misinformed generalizations, and some tired old talking points. Not really enough to argue against.

Since this is going nowhere, what say we all get back to Santorum's insanity?

[United Dependencies]

and what? shoot the immigrants?

I don't think you're that stupid. So I won't insult you with an actual response.

Well I'm afraid that it is a little late for that; considering you are implying that the military make better law enforcement officers... than our law enforcement officers.

[Lakeland]

Iran isn't being invaded because we don't have Santorum in the white house. Republicans suck on everything, especially in airport bathrooms.

You just confirmed yourself for a leftist dido head I hope you realize.

As to debt to GDP, we're right up their with Greece. But I think we'll see Japan start to falter before us, as their debt to GDP is much higher and they aren't growing. On our present course of fate is sealed. Also the left was howling about Bush increasing the debt only a few years ago, so don't try to bullshit me.

[Alien Space Bats]

And don't worry, no one is invading Iran, even the zionist entity isn't crazy enough to try to bomb them.

The "zionist entity"?

Damn, I knew it was a mistake when we let Charter Communications bring the Internet to Howell.

[Lakeland]

Perhaps they should plant crops that don't require so much manual labor.

Such as what, wheat?

Perhaps they should invent robots to do such manual labor.

Or, yah know, just higher legal workers for a fair wage.

[Wikkiwallana]

Iran isn't being invaded because we don't have Santorum in the white house. Republicans suck on everything, especially in airport bathrooms.

You just confirmed yourself for a leftist dido head I hope you realize.

As to debt to GDP, we're right up their with Greece. But I think we'll see Japan start to falter before us, as their debt to GDP is much higher and they aren't growing. On our present course of fate is sealed. Also the left was howling about Bush increasing the debt only a few years ago, so don't try to bullshit me.

Eww, Dido's voice drives me crazy.

[United Dependencies]

Believe it or not, but this government does not control the economy like that.

Actually it does, depending on what the law is like it can be harder or easier to outsource jobs. Remember the "bad old days" or protectionism?

So are the political parties in direct control of sending jobs overseas or is someone else in direct control of sending jobs overseas?

[Lakeland]

Perhaps they should plant crops that don't require so much manual labor.

Such as?

Do you really want me to list off all the crops that can be harvested through combine? How much time do you have?

[New England and The Maritimes]

Iran isn't being invaded because we don't have Santorum in the white house. Republicans suck on everything, especially in airport bathrooms.

You just confirmed yourself for a leftist dido head I hope you realize.

As to debt to GDP, we're right up their with Greece. But I think we'll see Japan start to falter before us, as their debt to GDP is much higher and they aren't growing. On our present course of fate is sealed. Also the left was howling about Bush increasing the debt only a few years ago, so don't try to bullshit me.

Quaint. Japan has nothing to worry about. Neither does the US. Both are 100% safe, and unless one of them suddenly gets hit by a meteor 300 miles in diameter, they'll continue to be fine.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Iran isn't being invaded because we don't have Santorum in the white house. Republicans suck on everything, especially in airport bathrooms.

You just confirmed yourself for a leftist dido head I hope you realize.

As to debt to GDP, we're right up their with Greece. But I think we'll see Japan start to falter before us, as their debt to GDP is much higher and they aren't growing. On our present course of fate is sealed. Also the left was howling about Bush increasing the debt only a few years ago, so don't try to bullshit me.

You do realize there's a difference between debt and deficit, right?

[Kaeshar]

I don't think you're that stupid. So I won't insult you with an actual response.

Well I'm afraid that it is a little late for that; considering you are implying that the military make better law enforcement officers... than our law enforcement officers.

We do need additional enforcement for the border.

[Wikkiwallana]

Such as what, wheat?

Perhaps they should invent robots to do such manual labor.

Or, yah know, just higher legal workers for a fair wage.

The farmers weren't interested in doing that.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/georgi ... rs-fields/

[United Dependencies]

Well I'm afraid that it is a little late for that; considering you are implying that the military make better law enforcement officers... than our law enforcement officers.

We do need additional enforcement for the border.

Then we should spend the money to hire extra border enforcement agents. The military is not trained in enforcing border laws. It also is not their job to enforce our laws.

[New England and The Maritimes]

You just confirmed yourself for a leftist dido head I hope you realize.

As to debt to GDP, we're right up their with Greece. But I think we'll see Japan start to falter before us, as their debt to GDP is much higher and they aren't growing. On our present course of fate is sealed. Also the left was howling about Bush increasing the debt only a few years ago, so don't try to bullshit me.

You do realize there's a difference between debt and deficit, right?

That's not even the central question. Greece does not have the economic base to meet their obligations. The US has a strong, stable tax base that will be able to meet any conceivable obligations under current laws, and the same goes to Japan.

[Kaeshar]

Such as?

Do you really want me to list off all the crops that can be harvested through combine? How much time do you have?

How about ones that can be grown in the Alabama and Georgia climate?