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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:01 pm

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Good.


And here I was wasting my time pretending to care what you had to say, but now it is obvious you just want attention. Thus, I can now justify just ignoring you and your future posts. Thank You.


Hardly, his whole statement was a total exaggeration. Women should remember what it actually means to be a woman, there's a reason why so many men are marrying women from outside this country. Here's a hint, it it's in MISS Magazine, it's not womanly. Likewise, men should actually remember what it is to be a man.

To quote Voltaire:

History is filled with the sound of silken slippers going downstairs and wooden shoes coming up.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:03 pm

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And here I was wasting my time pretending to care what you had to say, but now it is obvious you just want attention. Thus, I can now justify just ignoring you and your future posts. Thank You.


Hardly, his whole statement was a total exaggeration. Women should remember what it actually means to be a woman, there's a reason why so many men are marrying women from outside this country. Here's a hint, it it's in MISS Magazine, it's not womanly. Likewise, men should actually remember what it is to be a man.

To quote Voltaire:

History is filled with the sound of silken slippers going downstairs and wooden shoes coming up.

Yes, it was sexism that made this country great…
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:03 pm

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That's not how that works.


Sorry, is there a [D] or an [R] at the end of his name?
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:04 pm

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No, he's from Stamford, Connecticut.


Ignored. Thanks for playing.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:04 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:That's not how that works.


Sorry, is there a [D] or an [R] at the end of his name?

[I]
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
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Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:05 pm

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Yes, they actually have some principles left. Unlike boneless Obama.

This doesn't help when their "principles" are to the detriment of the entire country.


How are their principles a detriment to the entire country? In your opinion.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:06 pm

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Yes, I'm so evil for being principled, hard working, scholarly, prudent, and faithful. These are clearly what's wrong with America. Why if I was a whorish, ignorant, lazy, gang banger, then all could be forgiven.

Again, south/north, plus those people had their own communities, all of which have been destroyed by now. None of these people have to be minorities, all of them except Africans came willingly, and again north/south, they all have places they can go and live as majorities. Yet I'm supposed to injure myself for their benefit? Get real.

Aha! The core Republican principle of "fuck it, I got mine."


Why do you hate independence and self reliance? Just curious.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:07 pm

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You mean the same balanced budget amendment all the states have? Oh dear oh my, that will be the end of us. And another thing amendment good luck getting that passed anyway. Ice cubes through hell.

Obama's still increasing military spending. It doesn't matter who is in office the beast must still be fed. So long as America sees itself as the hegemon of the world nothing will change.

So do you have anything constructive to add, or are you just here to bitch and moan?


Yes pointing out how Obama isn't the holy savior he and his banker friends at Goldman made him out to be is very unconstructive isn't it.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:07 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:Aha! The core Republican principle of "fuck it, I got mine."


Why do you hate independence and self reliance? Just curious.

Why do you think people can do the improbable en masse?
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:08 pm

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Civil "rights" change all the time.

No, they don't. At least, not in the direction Santorum wants to take them.


Expanding civil rights to persons under 9 months of age? What a terrible person.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:08 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:So do you have anything constructive to add, or are you just here to bitch and moan?


Yes pointing out how Obama isn't the holy savior he and his banker friends at Goldman made him out to be is very unconstructive isn't it.

Where do you see anyone making him out to be a holy savior? I see some people deriding him for not being one, but nobody actually acting like he is one.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:09 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:So do you have anything constructive to add, or are you just here to bitch and moan?

He's a Republican. Consider the House's approach to "governing." What do you think?


Actually I'm not a republican. Unaffiliated. I voted for Obama last time. Try again.
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:10 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:Aha! The core Republican principle of "fuck it, I got mine."


Why do you hate independence and self reliance? Just curious.

Are you gonna bark all day little doggy, or are you gonna bite?

First you claim Santorum's platform is not crazy, despite this thread being filled with evidence to the contrary. When made aware of his positions, you changed the subject to "Prove that Santorum and the Republicans will damage the country." When given examples of how a Tea Party government would be potentially disastrous, you didn't refute it and changed the subject once again to "The Republicans have principles." Their principles aren't worth defending. You must be getting tired, I bet those goalposts are heavy.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:10 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:No, they don't. At least, not in the direction Santorum wants to take them.


Expanding civil rights to persons under 9 months of age? What a terrible person.

By taking them away from their mothers? And harassing people for their orientation? Or not belonging to a church he personally approves of? Or having the wrong skin color or last name?
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:11 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:He's a Republican. Consider the House's approach to "governing." What do you think?


Actually I'm not a republican. Unaffiliated. I voted for Obama last time. Try again.


How about this, do you like the way congress is governing right now? Did you like the way they governed the country during the Bush years?

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:11 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:No, they don't. At least, not in the direction Santorum wants to take them.


Expanding civil rights to persons under 9 months of age? What a terrible person.


Woo abortion debate. Bodily Sovereignty, that's all I'll say. Secondly, he also wants to eliminate civil rights for 51%, so...

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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:12 pm

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Why do you hate independence and self reliance? Just curious.

Are you gonna bark all day little doggy, or are you gonna bite?

First you claim Santorum's platform is not crazy, despite this thread being filled with evidence to the contrary. When made aware of his positions, you changed the subject to "Prove that Santorum and the Republicans will damage the country." When given examples of how a Tea Party government would be potentially disastrous, you didn't refute it and changed the subject once again to "The Republicans have principles." Their principles aren't worth defending. You must be getting tired, I bet those goalposts are heavy.


Plus he keeps dodging the questions.

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Postby The Fanboyists » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:13 pm

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The Fanboyists wrote:We obviously haven't been meeting the same liberals, since I've met about the same number of them as I have of conservatives that are absolutely batshit insane.

Santorum has no business being considered a viable candidate, and it makes me weep for the future of the Republican Party, which used to be a respectable alternative to the Democratic Party, that Santorum is one of the front-runners. Not sure why people prefer him to Romney. Am I the only one that views Romney's inclination towards the practical and compromise as a good thing?


Its the 'anybody but Romney' crowd thats flocking to Santorum. However, the negative ad campaign that Romney does could have something to do with it. Not to mention the democrats making mischief.

The "Anybody But Romney" crowd is the one that utterly mystifies me. Probably the biggest problem we have as a country is that on both sides of the aisle, "compromise" has become a dirty word. Even though I didn't back him last time around, it was because I genuinely thought that McCain was a better candidate, not out of some vague anti-Romney sentiment.

Oh, wait, I know why there's an "ABR" crowd. Because for some reasons Evangelicals think Mormons are evil. Just the way they (in most cases) used to think Catholics were.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:13 pm

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Hardly, his whole statement was a total exaggeration. Women should remember what it actually means to be a woman, there's a reason why so many men are marrying women from outside this country. Here's a hint, it it's in MISS Magazine, it's not womanly. Likewise, men should actually remember what it is to be a man.

To quote Voltaire:

History is filled with the sound of silken slippers going downstairs and wooden shoes coming up.

Yes, it was sexism that made this country great…


I'm amazed at the mental gymnastics it must take to conflate indulging in your biological desires of child rearing as "sexism". Oddly enough, both of my grandmothers managed to have jobs and have 6 children between the two of them (WAY BACK IN THE EVIL 50's!!!). All they do is tell me how "oppressed" they were and how much "better" it is now.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:14 pm

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Sorry, is there a [D] or an [R] at the end of his name?

[I]


Prior to that a [D] and you know it.
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Postby Lakeland » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:16 pm

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Why do you hate independence and self reliance? Just curious.

Why do you think people can do the improbable en masse?


improbable
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Because I actually give them credit for not being listless. But if you think I should have a lower opinion of them, please, convince me.
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Postby Kaeshar » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:16 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:Yes, it was sexism that made this country great…


I'm amazed at the mental gymnastics it must take to conflate indulging in your biological desires of child rearing as "sexism". Oddly enough, both of my grandmothers managed to have jobs and have 6 children between the two of them (WAY BACK IN THE EVIL 50's!!!). All they do is tell me how "oppressed" they were and how much "better" it is now.


I think your sarcasm radar failed to detect.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:16 pm

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Prior to that a [D] and you know it.

And? He's the one that decided to change it. Not my fault you asked a question then didn't like the actual answer.
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:17 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Why do you think people can do the improbable en masse?


improbable
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Because I actually give them credit for not being listless. But if you think I should have a lower opinion of them, please, convince me.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:19 pm

Lakeland wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Why do you think people can do the improbable en masse?


improbable
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Because I actually give them credit for not being listless. But if you think I should have a lower opinion of them, please, convince me.

Upward social mobility is hard in the US, and getting harder every year. You cannot expect a majority to accomplish a statistical improbability. Statistics just doesn't work like that.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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