Rick Santorum Megathread: A Frothy Mixture of Opinions

[Revolutopia]

Tears of joy.
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Let's face it, Mister Frothy Homophobe here is about as electable as my cat. My cat is dead.

Single issue voter.

There is not a single issue that Santorum has correct.

[Ranbo]

Single issue voter.

There is not a single issue that Santorum has correct.

The sad thing is that he's leading the Washington Primaries. These people must really be desperate.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Tears of joy.
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. . .
Let's face it, Mister Frothy Homophobe here is about as electable as my cat. My cat is dead.

Single issue voter.

You say that like it's a bad thing. For instance, I'd never vote for an anti-choice or anti-gay candidate if I had any other option. Same thing applies to diehard capitalists.

[Gauthier]

Tears of joy.
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Let's face it, Mister Frothy Homophobe here is about as electable as my cat. My cat is dead.

Single issue voter.

This is the same Frothy that said Kennedy's promise to govern secularly made him want to throw up, and insisted that denying women hormonal birth control regardless of why they want it was a matter of religious freedom. If there's anything that's single issue, it's Good Ole Frothy.

[Hittanryan]

A shame he didn't win Michigan, hope he wins Ohio. Santorum/Gingrich 2012! I want to taste those sweet sweet liberal tears.

Tears of joy.
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Let's face it, Mister Frothy Homophobe here is about as electable as my cat. My cat is dead.

Hey now, let's not put down the dead. John Ashcroft lost to a dead man, after all.

[Lakeland]

Single issue voter.

There is not a single issue that Santorum has correct.

Not even?
-Reduce taxes for families by tripling the personal deduction for each child
-Reduce and simplify taxes for families by eliminating marriage tax penalties throughout the federal tax code
-Retain deductions for charitable giving, home mortgage interest, healthcare, retirement savings, and children
-Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers – from 35% to 0% - which will spur middle income job creation in the United States and will create a job multiplier effect for workers
-Spur innovation in America by increasing the Research & Development Tax Credit from 14% to 20% and make it permanent
-Eliminate all energy and most agriculture subsidies within four years
-Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution capping government spending at 18% of GDP
-Support Legislation to Reform the Congressional Budget Process and support legislation that requires Congress to pass constitutionally required spending bills or forfeit its members’ pay for the next fiscal year
-Negotiate 5 Free Trade Agreements and submit to Congress in first year of Presidency
-Secure our border, streamline the legal immigration process to attract highly skilled talent and entrepreneurs from around the world and reform the agriculture worker program so it works for America’s farmers
-Reclaim the role of parents as the decision makers in their children’s education and incentivize the states to promote parental choice and quality educational options because the family is the foundation of the economy
-Overturn the National Labor Relations decision preventing Boeing from opening up its airplane factory in South Carolina and prevent other decisions like it
-Audit the Federal Reserve and return it to it’s original purpose – a single charter to only manage inflation

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

There is not a single issue that Santorum has correct.

Not even?
-Reduce taxes for families by tripling the personal deduction for each child
-Reduce and simplify taxes for families by eliminating marriage tax penalties throughout the federal tax code
-Retain deductions for charitable giving, home mortgage interest, healthcare, retirement savings, and children
-Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers – from 35% to 0% - which will spur middle income job creation in the United States and will create a job multiplier effect for workers
-Spur innovation in America by increasing the Research & Development Tax Credit from 14% to 20% and make it permanent
-Eliminate all energy and most agriculture subsidies within four years
-Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution capping government spending at 18% of GDP
-Support Legislation to Reform the Congressional Budget Process and support legislation that requires Congress to pass constitutionally required spending bills or forfeit its members’ pay for the next fiscal year
-Negotiate 5 Free Trade Agreements and submit to Congress in first year of Presidency
-Secure our border, streamline the legal immigration process to attract highly skilled talent and entrepreneurs from around the world and reform the agriculture worker program so it works for America’s farmers
-Reclaim the role of parents as the decision makers in their children’s education and incentivize the states to promote parental choice and quality educational options because the family is the foundation of the economy
-Overturn the National Labor Relations decision preventing Boeing from opening up its airplane factory in South Carolina and prevent other decisions like it
-Audit the Federal Reserve and return it to it’s original purpose – a single charter to only manage inflation

Yuppers. Not even. Your points are as valid as Romney's birth certificate.

I am too lazy to refute your sad little copy-paste job there, but come on. Eliminate corporate tax because it "spurs middle income job creation"? Do you want a shovel for that? The amount of jobs is a symptom of deeper economic trends. I have bronchitis. Therefore, I have a cough. No matter how many cough drops I eat, I still have the bronchitis. And I still will die if it is untreated.

Reclaim the role of parents in child decisions? Have you ever seen a parent? Most of them are pretty horrid. Statistically speaking, of course.

[Wikkiwallana]

There is not a single issue that Santorum has correct.

Not even?
-Reduce taxes for families by tripling the personal deduction for each child
-Reduce and simplify taxes for families by eliminating marriage tax penalties throughout the federal tax code

What do the non-Austrian economists say about that?

-Retain deductions for charitable giving, home mortgage interest, healthcare, retirement savings, and children

Was anyone planning to get rid of them?

-Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers – from 35% to 0% - which will spur middle income job creation in the United States and will create a job multiplier effect for workers

Yeah, that won't work.

-Spur innovation in America by increasing the Research & Development Tax Credit from 14% to 20% and make it permanent

Again, what do the non-Austrian economists say about that?

-Eliminate all energy and most agriculture subsidies within four years

Fuck no.

-Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution capping government spending at 18% of GDP

Holy fuckity fuck no.

-Support Legislation to Reform the Congressional Budget Process and support legislation that requires Congress to pass constitutionally required spending bills or forfeit its members’ pay for the next fiscal year

Gee, that couldn't be abused at all…

-Negotiate 5 Free Trade Agreements and submit to Congress in first year of Presidency

With whom?

-Secure our border, streamline the legal immigration process to attract highly skilled talent and entrepreneurs from around the world and reform the agriculture worker program so it works for America’s farmers

I'm thinking the way he wants to do that and the way I think it should be done are so far apart they couldn't see each other on a clear day.

-Reclaim the role of parents as the decision makers in their children’s education and incentivize the states to promote parental choice and quality educational options because the family is the foundation of the economy

Code for promote creationism and home schooling.

-Overturn the National Labor Relations decision preventing Boeing from opening up its airplane factory in South Carolina and prevent other decisions like it

What's this now?

-Audit the Federal Reserve and return it to it’s original purpose – a single charter to only manage inflation

Not the original purpose of the Fed.

The Congress established three key objectives for monetary policy--maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates--in the Federal Reserve Act.[7]

The primary motivation for creating the Federal Reserve System was to address banking panics.[3] Other purposes are stated in the Federal Reserve Act, such as "to furnish an elastic currency, to afford means of rediscounting commercial paper, to establish a more effective supervision of banking in the United States, and for other purposes".[40]

[Revolutopia]

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While, not being able to give an absolute picture on the first few points Lakeland posted I think it is unwise to dismiss them all as Austrian bullshit. Saying that in all honestly Ass Juice probably is not a follower of the Austrian school, and instead a Supply Sider or Chicago School supporter.

Through I will say these positions are pointless and stupid.

-Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers – from 35% to 0% - which will spur middle income job creation in the United States and will create a job multiplier effect for workers
-Spur innovation in America by increasing the Research & Development Tax Credit from 14% to 20% and make it permanent
-Eliminate all energy and most agriculture subsidies within four years
-Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution capping government spending at 18% of GDP
-Support Legislation to Reform the Congressional Budget Process and support legislation that requires Congress to pass constitutionally required spending bills or forfeit its members’ pay for the next fiscal year
-Secure our border, streamline the legal immigration process to attract highly skilled talent and entrepreneurs from around the world and reform the agriculture worker program so it works for America’s farmers
-Reclaim the role of parents as the decision makers in their children’s education and incentivize the states to promote parental choice and quality educational options because the family is the foundation of the economy
-Overturn the National Labor Relations decision preventing Boeing from opening up its airplane factory in South Carolina and prevent other decisions like it
-Audit the Federal Reserve and return it to it’s original purpose – a single charter to only manage inflation

Others like the Free Trade agreement are pointless as they are no different then what every other politician will promote, and the fact I doubt that Rick has the brains or charisma to make five agreements in one year.

[Wikkiwallana]

-snip-

While, not being able to give an absolute picture on the first few points Lakeland posted I think it is unwise to dismiss them all as Austrian bullshit. Saying that in all honestly Ass Juice probably is not a follower of the Austrian school, and instead a Supply Sider or Chicago School supporter.

I wasn't dismissing them, it was a genuine question. If an actual economist says they have merit, I'd be willing to listen.

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

Not even?
-Reduce taxes for families by tripling the personal deduction for each child
-Reduce and simplify taxes for families by eliminating marriage tax penalties throughout the federal tax code

What do the non-Austrian economists say about that?

-Retain deductions for charitable giving, home mortgage interest, healthcare, retirement savings, and children

Was anyone planning to get rid of them?

-Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers – from 35% to 0% - which will spur middle income job creation in the United States and will create a job multiplier effect for workers

Yeah, that won't work.

-Spur innovation in America by increasing the Research & Development Tax Credit from 14% to 20% and make it permanent

snipping the rest

Thank you for being the person who actually goes through that lovely comment and, if not refuting stuff, tossing in brilliantly condescending comments.

Is it just me, or is NSG suddenly being invaded by a bunch of hard-right wingers?

[Revolutopia]

While, not being able to give an absolute picture on the first few points Lakeland posted I think it is unwise to dismiss them all as Austrian bullshit. Saying that in all honestly Ass Juice probably is not a follower of the Austrian school, and instead a Supply Sider or Chicago School supporter.

I wasn't dismissing them, it was a genuine question. If an actual economist says they have merit, I'd be willing to listen.

I am just saying that besides with Paul one should not assume that all of the Republican's economic rhetoric is Austrian, instead they are likely to supply sider and maybe Chicago School.

[Wikkiwallana]

I wasn't dismissing them, it was a genuine question. If an actual economist says they have merit, I'd be willing to listen.

I am just saying that besides with Paul one should not assume that all of the Republican's economic rhetoric is Austrian, instead they are likely to supply sider and maybe Chicago School.

Maybe I'm just pre-conditioned to expect Austrianism thanks to my dad.

[Nano Technology]

I would kindly and respectfully ask that the American people do not [edited] CONTINUE [/edited] to elect religious individuals to their government.

[Gauthier]

I would kindly and respectfully ask that the American people do not elect religious individuals to their government.

Too late.



"God told me He wanted me to become President and invade Eyeraq."

[Revolutopia]

I would kindly and respectfully ask that the American people do not elect religious individuals to their government.]

No, because that is stupid.

There is not inherent fault in religious individuals that should excuse them from office, then there is for non religious individuals.

[Nano Technology]

I would kindly and respectfully ask that the American people do not elect religious individuals to their government.

No, because that is stupid.

There is not inherent fault in religious individuals that should excuse them from office, then there is for non religious individuals.

I check my personal problems at the door when I enter my community meetings. Though on a very small scale, I would ask others to do the same.

If a community wants to pass a by-law according to community beliefs, then so be it. On a whole, on a State or Federal level, keep your religion to yourself.

[Revolutopia]

No, because that is stupid.

There is not inherent fault in religious individuals that should excuse them from office, then there is for non religious individuals.

I check my personal problems at the door when I enter my community meetings. Though on a very small scale, I would ask others to do the same.

If a community wants to pass a by-law according to community beliefs, then so be it. On a whole, on a State or Federal level, keep your religion to yourself.

Being a religious individual doesn't mean you want to impose religious values on others.

[Nano Technology]

I check my personal problems at the door when I enter my community meetings. Though on a very small scale, I would ask others to do the same.

If a community wants to pass a by-law according to community beliefs, then so be it. On a whole, on a State or Federal level, keep your religion to yourself.

Being a religious individual doesn't mean you want to impose religious values on others.

Until you become a politician.

[Lakeland]

Not even?
-Reduce taxes for families by tripling the personal deduction for each child
-Reduce and simplify taxes for families by eliminating marriage tax penalties throughout the federal tax code
-Retain deductions for charitable giving, home mortgage interest, healthcare, retirement savings, and children
-Eliminate the corporate income tax for manufacturers – from 35% to 0% - which will spur middle income job creation in the United States and will create a job multiplier effect for workers
-Spur innovation in America by increasing the Research & Development Tax Credit from 14% to 20% and make it permanent
-Eliminate all energy and most agriculture subsidies within four years
-Pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution capping government spending at 18% of GDP
-Support Legislation to Reform the Congressional Budget Process and support legislation that requires Congress to pass constitutionally required spending bills or forfeit its members’ pay for the next fiscal year
-Negotiate 5 Free Trade Agreements and submit to Congress in first year of Presidency
-Secure our border, streamline the legal immigration process to attract highly skilled talent and entrepreneurs from around the world and reform the agriculture worker program so it works for America’s farmers
-Reclaim the role of parents as the decision makers in their children’s education and incentivize the states to promote parental choice and quality educational options because the family is the foundation of the economy
-Overturn the National Labor Relations decision preventing Boeing from opening up its airplane factory in South Carolina and prevent other decisions like it
-Audit the Federal Reserve and return it to it’s original purpose – a single charter to only manage inflation

Yuppers. Not even. Your points are as valid as Romney's birth certificate.

I am too lazy to refute your sad little copy-paste job there, but come on. Eliminate corporate tax because it "spurs middle income job creation"? Do you want a shovel for that? The amount of jobs is a symptom of deeper economic trends. I have bronchitis. Therefore, I have a cough. No matter how many cough drops I eat, I still have the bronchitis. And I still will die if it is untreated.

Reclaim the role of parents in child decisions? Have you ever seen a parent? Most of them are pretty horrid. Statistically speaking, of course.

Hahaha, Jesus Christ, the slave yearns for his chains. No wonder Britain is so messed up. Enjoy your CCTV. So sorry I actually bothered to post the platform positions of the man.

[Revolutopia]

Being a religious individual doesn't mean you want to impose religious values on others.

Until you become a politician.

No it doesn't, there have been numerous politicians that were religious who haven't attempted to impose religion on individuals.

[Gauthier]

Until you become a politician.

No it doesn't, there have numerous politicians that are religious who haven't attempted to impose religion on individuals.

Like Kennedy, who incidentally makes Frothy want to throw up.

[Nano Technology]

Until you become a politician.

No it doesn't, there have numerous politicians that are religious who haven't attempted to impose religion on individuals.

Names. Dates. Places.

[Lakeland]

-snip-

While, not being able to give an absolute picture on the first few points Lakeland posted I think it is unwise to dismiss them all as Austrian bullshit. Saying that in all honestly Ass Juice probably is not a follower of the Austrian school, and instead a Supply Sider or Chicago School supporter.

-snip-

You would be correct, the Chicago School really ruined Chile's economy amirite?

[Revolutopia]

While, not being able to give an absolute picture on the first few points Lakeland posted I think it is unwise to dismiss them all as Austrian bullshit. Saying that in all honestly Ass Juice probably is not a follower of the Austrian school, and instead a Supply Sider or Chicago School supporter.

-snip-

You would be correct, the Chicago School really ruined Chile's economy amirite?

Did I insult the Chicago School? Also there are some who question the full success of the Chilean economy under Pinochet.