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Postby Coffee Cakes » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:44 am

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Uh, God don't hate anybody, he hates their sinning. There is a difference.
That said, in Christian theology, Jesus died to cleanse people of their sins.
Doesn't sound like hate to me. Not one bit.


God also turned a load of people into salt, flooded the world and killed the firstborn son of every non-Jewish house in Egypt. I'm pretty sure, that, if he wanted to, he would strike down the gays. The fact that he hasn't shows that he doesn't hate gays.


There's a messup or two there, but I do agree with the gist of the post.
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Postby Ora Amaris » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:52 am

If God hates homosexuality, then he is a really shitty God.
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does god hate homos

Postby United states socialist republic » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:59 am

i dont know but i hate fags

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:07 pm

United states socialist republic wrote:i dont know but i hate fags


But they always speak so well of you.

I could probably deduce something from that, were I so inclined.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:11 pm

United states socialist republic wrote:i dont know but i hate fags

Off to a good start, are we? Perhaps a slight detour towards the One Stop Rules Shop would help you better understand how we do things here.

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Postby Deus Est Machina » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:15 pm

United states socialist republic wrote:i dont know but i hate fags

Are you serious, boy?

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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:18 pm

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Are you serious, boy?


Probably not.

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Postby Dazchan » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:29 pm

United states socialist republic wrote:i dont know but i hate fags


Yeah, I don't like smoking either.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:30 pm

The idea of God hating anything is contradictory to His being love.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:31 pm

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United states socialist republic wrote:i dont know but i hate fags

Are you serious, boy?


Avatar of a dark skinned person, accompanied by a nation name that suggests the US has turned into a socialist republic, and starting out with a post (lacking all punctuation, and containing only inflammatory off-topic insults)... probably not.

At least JesusSaves and HerPower worked at it.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:32 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:The idea of God hating anything is contradictory to His being love.


Some would argue that genocide, and constantly rewarding murder are also arguments against 'His being love', too. It's a thorny one.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:33 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Deus Est Machina wrote:Are you serious, boy?


Avatar of a dark skinned person, accompanied by a nation name that suggests the US has turned into a socialist republic, and starting out with a post (lacking all punctuation, and containing only inflammatory off-topic insults)... probably not.

At least JesusSaves and HerPower worked at it.


You ever notice that these type of users do something that we simple mortals don't: Write a title in their posts. :p

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:35 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
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Avatar of a dark skinned person, accompanied by a nation name that suggests the US has turned into a socialist republic, and starting out with a post (lacking all punctuation, and containing only inflammatory off-topic insults)... probably not.

At least JesusSaves and HerPower worked at it.


You ever notice that these type of users do something that we simple mortals don't: Write a title in their posts. :p

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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:35 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:The idea of God hating anything is contradictory to His being love.


Some would argue that genocide, and constantly rewarding murder are also arguments against 'His being love', too. It's a thorny one.

Indeed. I don't claim to know what God is or wants, but I don't think people should be speaking for Him when the foundation of what they're saying is their own beliefs and sensibilities.
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Postby Tekania » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:35 pm

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Sorry, no... God hates figs... So-cons simply don't know how to spell.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:35 pm

Farnhamia wrote:Careful, 'Koku-kun. I do it now and then.


But I have never seen you do it, so I didn't know that fact. Please forgive me. :blush:

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:36 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Careful, 'Koku-kun. I do it now and then.


But I have never seen you do it, so I didn't know that fact. Please forgive me. :blush:

;) Only in the Republican primary megathread, where you seldom venture.
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Postby United States of White America » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:36 pm

As a bisexual, growing up with catholic neighbours, I did feel very uneasy because I knew they weren't exactly for homosexuality. I also found out that the parents' son turned out to be gay, and they kicked him out of the house. However, I don't believe God hates homosexuality. I think it's just the worshippers who have made homophobia themselves. I have not read the Bible but I assume God doesn't say he "hates" homosexuals. But remember, the Bible contradicts itself. One section tells you to do something, but another tells you to do the opposite. For example, a section between Romans says that religion and politics should mix. However, in another part, the Bible says not to mix religion with politics. Back to my point of it being interpreted differently. When the Bible was written, I believe that (and this is just an assumption) the intention wasn't to express hate towards homosexuals. What God may have been pointing out is that while it isn't exactly God's law, people can still be homosexuals. I believe that the idea that homosexuality is "evil" or "forbidden" is down to the worshippers. Surely God doesn't hate people for who they are. It wouldn't make sense if he did- why create something to use as a scapegoat?

My two cents. Sorry for the ramblings.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:37 pm

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But I have never seen you do it, so I didn't know that fact. Please forgive me. :blush:

;) Only in the Republican primary megathread, where you seldom venture.


I have never been there. :P

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:38 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
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Some would argue that genocide, and constantly rewarding murder are also arguments against 'His being love', too. It's a thorny one.

Indeed. I don't claim to know what God is or wants, but I don't think people should be speaking for Him when the foundation of what they're saying is their own beliefs and sensibilities.


Indeed. I mean, when I read the Greek scripture I prioritise the words attributed to that Jesus chap, and it seems pretty obvious to me that the fundamental overarching intent for Christians should be love. Love in thought, and love expressed.

But then, hey. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Maybe that Jesus guy just ain't that important.
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Postby Tekania » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:41 pm

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The Truth and Light wrote:Indeed. I don't claim to know what God is or wants, but I don't think people should be speaking for Him when the foundation of what they're saying is their own beliefs and sensibilities.


Indeed. I mean, when I read the Greek scripture I prioritise the words attributed to that Jesus chap, and it seems pretty obvious to me that the fundamental overarching intent for Christians should be love. Love in thought, and love expressed.

But then, hey. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Maybe that Jesus guy just ain't that important.


Yes, Christian is supposed to have sourced from the early epithet as Christ's followers as "little Christs", emulating Christ. Wereas most of them now-a-days look more like Pharisees than Christ.
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Postby Toe-Cheeseland » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:44 pm

Why would he hate it? It's just 'love thy neighbour'. It's love, and there's nothing I can recall in the Bible (Which wasn't actually written by God, so could be open to human error.) that forbids it. Indeed, god encouraged compassion. Also, seeing as god created them, it's a fault on his part. I know god is supposed to be 'perfect', and it's Satan who perverted his creations. But if he was 'perfect', why would he make them susceptible to perversion. In addition, Satan used to be an angel - perhaps god's 'most perfect' creation (Angels I mean.) and he was perverted, despite being a 'perfect' creation.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:45 pm

Tekania wrote:
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Indeed. I mean, when I read the Greek scripture I prioritise the words attributed to that Jesus chap, and it seems pretty obvious to me that the fundamental overarching intent for Christians should be love. Love in thought, and love expressed.

But then, hey. Maybe I'm reading it wrong. Maybe that Jesus guy just ain't that important.


Yes, Christian is supposed to have sourced from the early epithet as Christ's followers as "little Christs", emulating Christ. Wereas most of them now-a-days look more like Pharisees than Christ.


Paul was an apostate Pharisee, and most modern Christians arguably shape their theology heavily around Paul.

To my eyes, our modern world has far too many Paulians, and far too few Christians.
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Postby Tekania » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:53 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
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Yes, Christian is supposed to have sourced from the early epithet as Christ's followers as "little Christs", emulating Christ. Wereas most of them now-a-days look more like Pharisees than Christ.


Paul was an apostate Pharisee, and most modern Christians arguably shape their theology heavily around Paul.

To my eyes, our modern world has far too many Paulians, and far too few Christians.


Frankly, they're more Pauline, than Paul himself.
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:20 pm

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You ever notice that these type of users do something that we simple mortals don't: Write a title in their posts. :p

Careful, 'Koku-kun. I do it now and then.


There we go, the theory still holds. It's just immortals and these strange types that do it.
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