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Income Taxes: Are They Theft?
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:31 pmby Ravineworld
Theft by Definition: The act of stealing property.
So, income taxes, are when the government forces you to give up your property. How is that not stealing property?
I believe that taxes are an act of theft. I believe that since theft is illegal, then taxes are illegal.
So, NSG, what do you think about income taxes? Illegal, legal, good, bad?
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:39 pmby Ovisterra
I suppose the government should just magic money out of the air to pay for the roads, hospitals, and emergency services.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:39 pmby Wikkiwallana
Taking government services without paying for them is theft. Stop trying to steal from the government.Edit: scratch this, see my new post:
viewtopic.php?p=8489342#p8489342
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:41 pmby Bafuria
They are a preferable form of theft compared to being mugged because of a lack of tax-funded police.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:42 pmby New Genoa
Property is theft.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:42 pmby Bostok
No no you got it wrong it goes like this.
Don't steal the goverment hates competition.
Now hurry up and give me your money so i can pretend to protect you.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:43 pmby Filafia
Ravineworld wrote:Theft by Definition: The act of stealing property.
So, income taxes, are when the government forces you to give up your property. How is that not stealing property?
I believe that taxes are an act of theft. I believe that since theft is illegal, then taxes are illegal.
So, NSG, what do you think about income taxes? Illegal, legal, good, bad?
Haven't you been paying attention? They're SLAVERY now (at least according to some people).
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:43 pmby Genivaria
If income taxes are theft then using public services should be theft as well seeing as you didn't pay for them.
Also this:
Chinese Regions wrote:Depends what the government does is a waste or not.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:44 pmby Chinese Regions
Depends what the government does is a waste or not.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:44 pmby Seven7
Taxes aren't illegal (quite obviously) but they certainly are immoral. Not only does it result in confiscation of the fruits of a person's labour (so yes, they are theft) but they are then used to coerce sovereign individuals both in the home country and often around the world to do things against their will.
So not only is your property taken from you by force, the government also then uses it to maintain an unjustifiable monopoly on force which should not be tolerated by any liberty-loving individual.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:44 pmby Chinese Regions
New Genoa wrote:Property is theft.
Elaborate
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:46 pmby Alyakia
Ovisterra wrote:I suppose the government should just magic money out of the air to pay for the roads, hospitals, and emergency services.
MAKE THE ROADS A TOLL (p.s. a small car going to the ships and a gigantic truck carrying literal gold to goldcorp to be made into super gold should be charged the same)
hospitals? what are you,
living in any first world nation outside of the U.S. a commie?
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:46 pmby Wikkiwallana
Argument by assertion is theft, I want my time back.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:46 pmby Death Metal
Wikkiwallana wrote:Taking government services without paying for them is theft. Stop trying to steal from the government.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:46 pmby Northwest Slobovia
Ravineworld wrote:So, NSG, what do you think about income taxes? Illegal, legal, good, bad?
Like all taxes, income taxes are legal by definition: the government makes the laws.
Next up on News of the Obvious: Pope still Catholic; Loons still rave in the woods.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:46 pmby Alyakia
Ovisterra wrote:I suppose the government should just magic money out of the air to pay for the roads, hospitals, and emergency services.
pritivitze the roads
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:46 pmby Salandriagado
Theft is, by definition, illegal. Taxes are not.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:47 pmby Alyakia
Filafia wrote:Ravineworld wrote:Theft by Definition: The act of stealing property.
So, income taxes, are when the government forces you to give up your property. How is that not stealing property?
I believe that taxes are an act of theft. I believe that since theft is illegal, then taxes are illegal.
So, NSG, what do you think about income taxes? Illegal, legal, good, bad?
Haven't you been paying attention? They're SLAVERY now (at least according to some people).
rape. slavery. theft. you'd be truly suprised at how many things confiscation rates can be compared to.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pmby Wikkiwallana
Alyakia wrote:Filafia wrote:Haven't you been paying attention? They're SLAVERY now (at least according to some people).
rape. slavery. theft. you'd be truly suprised at how many things confiscation rates can be compared to.
One can compare anything to anything else, that doesn't mean the comparison is
meaningful or even correct.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pmby Alexlantis
Taxes are an investment. If you give the government money and they give you education and roads you can use and other stuff back, it's an investment. If they tax you just to take money, then it's theft.
Not that hard of a concept.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pmby Sibirsky
Wikkiwallana wrote:Taking government services without paying for them is theft. Stop trying to steal from the government.Edit: scratch this, see my new post:
viewtopic.php?p=8489342#p8489342
And if he doesn't use them? What choice does he have in
not paying taxes?
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pmby Alyakia
beep boop the government makes the laws therefore it is legal. initiating "ignore the other half of the thread that most of the posts are going to be about anyway" protocol.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:49 pmby Nightkill the Emperor
No.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:50 pmby Consaria
No. People don't complain that they have to pay to live in a house. Why can't a government put charges on living in their country? If you don't want to pay taxes for some reason, you can leave.
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Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:50 pmby Gravlen
Oh Gods, this again?
Ravineworld wrote:Theft by Definition: The act of stealing property.
By what definition? Or, define "stealing" then.