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Obama or Bush?

Postby Codawa » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:37 pm

Who do you think has been a better presidentin the time given, Bush or Obama?

Also who do you think were better vice presidents?

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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:38 pm

Impossible to tell at the moment.

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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:39 pm

Obama is much, much better than Bush in the time given. But who was smarter between Dick Cheney and Biden? Cheney. Who was more evil? Darth Cheney, of course.
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Postby United Russian State » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:39 pm

See how both of them are bad, I pick neither. Both are just as bad as the other.
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Postby North Suran » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:42 pm

United Russian State wrote:See how both of them are bad, I pick neither. Both are just as bad as the other.

Because they are Americans *nods*
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Postby Classical Liberal » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:42 pm

United Russian State wrote:See how both of them are bad, I pick neither. Both are just as bad as the other, but not as bad as Putin.


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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:43 pm

North Suran wrote:
United Russian State wrote:See how both of them are bad, I pick neither. Both are just as bad as the other.

Because they are Americans *nods*


It's our inherent flaw. :(
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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:43 pm

Only time can tell. However, being that Obama has reached his first 9/11 as president I would have to say Obama. Bush did practically nothing at ground zero and on the anniversaries.
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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:43 pm

Obama > Bush

Good job America, third times a charm and you finally got an English speaker in office.
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Postby Finland6 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:43 pm

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Postby United Russian State » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:43 pm

North Suran wrote:
United Russian State wrote:See how both of them are bad, I pick neither. Both are just as bad as the other.

Because they are Americans *nods*


No. North Suran... :palm:
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:45 pm

United Russian State wrote:
North Suran wrote:
United Russian State wrote:See how both of them are bad, I pick neither. Both are just as bad as the other.

Because they are Americans *nods*


No. North Suran... :palm:


Of course it is.
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Postby Emericanland » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:53 pm

All I have to say is Bush screwed our children with his spending and Obama screwed many generations to come with his spending and if the terrorists had attacked under Obama all he would have done is apologize to the world at how evil America is. At least Bush loved this country.

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Postby North Suran » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:54 pm

Emericanland wrote:All I have to say is Bush screwed our children with his spending and Obama screwed many generations to come with his spending and if the terrorists had attacked under Obama all he would have done is apologize to the world at how evil America is. At least Bush loved this country.

Loved it so much that he regularly undermined the Constitution that created it.
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Postby Virtud Tierra » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:56 pm

Obama has not been in office for even a year yet.

So who knows?

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Postby United Russian State » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:57 pm

Emericanland wrote:All I have to say is Bush screwed our children with his spending and Obama screwed many generations to come with his spending and if the terrorists had attacked under Obama all he would have done is apologize to the world at how evil America is. At least Bush loved this country.


Well...at least Obama won't declare nations to have WMDs [when they don't] and invade them hopefuly than. -.-
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Postby Flowing Blood » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:58 pm

Obama = better for America and the World
I don't think anyone argues about what Bush did, we all know it's really bad and I understand that if your government lies to you you can't always tell that they are doing so. I do think the blame for war in Iraq should be shouldered by the Bush administration.
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:59 pm

Considering only one is a war criminal, this ain't exactly a hard choice.
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Postby Geniasis » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:02 pm

Emericanland wrote:At least Bush loved this country.


Yeah, he just hated everything it stood for.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:03 pm

North Suran wrote:
Emericanland wrote:All I have to say is Bush screwed our children with his spending and Obama screwed many generations to come with his spending and if the terrorists had attacked under Obama all he would have done is apologize to the world at how evil America is. At least Bush loved this country.

Loved it so much that he regularly undermined the Constitution that created it.


Not to mention send so many American abroad to die in the name of outsourcing democracy and enriching a few conglomerate buddies.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:03 pm

For Christ's sake, give Obama a break! He's been in office for half a year and we're already criticizing him for doing nothing. Bush had 8 LONG PAINFUL YEARS to try to make things better... and look how we ended up: thousands of our troops dead, a country in shambles, an economy in the toilet, and another world war looming on the horizon. Do we really need to DEBATE about it?

YOU CAN'T CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO. Give the poor kid a break, and stop talking about that old wizard like he's the best thing to have ever happened to us.

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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:03 pm

Geniasis wrote:
Emericanland wrote:At least Bush loved this country.


Yeah, he just hated everything it stood for.

I think that's a little harsh, even for Bush.

Bush was stupid, and Darth Cheney was afraid.
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Postby Emericanland » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:05 pm

North Suran wrote:
Emericanland wrote:All I have to say is Bush screwed our children with his spending and Obama screwed many generations to come with his spending and if the terrorists had attacked under Obama all he would have done is apologize to the world at how evil America is. At least Bush loved this country.

Loved it so much that he regularly undermined the Constitution that created it.

What did he do that was against the constitution? Obama has already broken one of his own laws by firing an inspector general without a 30 day notice and has taken over privately owned companies. He has repeatedly lied to the American people about many things. "I will not sign a bill that has pork in it." Just look at the stimulus he passed. Most of it is useless crap that will not create jobs. He wants to implement Healthcare on everyone that he wouldn't even give himself. The healthcare would even put a price on people and if they exceed that price then they would not get care(Obama has even said so in one of his town hall meetings).

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Postby Brewdomia » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:06 pm

North Suran wrote:
Emericanland wrote:All I have to say is Bush screwed our children with his spending and Obama screwed many generations to come with his spending and if the terrorists had attacked under Obama all he would have done is apologize to the world at how evil America is. At least Bush loved this country.

Loved it so much that he regularly undermined the Constitution that created it.


You forgot that he also attacked a country which had No WMD's and had no involvement in 9/11 whatsoever. Obama is by far better than the idiot called Dubya, and much more intelligent than the representative of the Republican Party, whoever that is.

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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:07 pm

The Rich Port wrote:For Christ's sake, give Obama a break! He's been in office for half a year and we're already criticizing him for doing nothing. Bush had 8 LONG PAINFUL YEARS to try to make things better... and look how we ended up: thousands of our troops dead, a country in shambles, an economy in the toilet, and another world war looming on the horizon. Do we really need to DEBATE about it?

YOU CAN'T CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO. Give the poor kid a break, and stop talking about that old wizard like he's the best thing to have ever happened to us.



agreed, except Bush ain't a wizard. You need at least 10 intelligence to cast basic spells.
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