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Does religion cause war?

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Somtimes
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Rarely
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Does religion cause war?

Postby Yichta » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:31 pm

please post your thoughts, thanks! BTW I think sometimes
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Postby MoneyMogul » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:37 pm

Religion does not cause war but it can be a reason to go to war.

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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:41 pm

no.

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Postby Unified Patriotopia » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:42 pm

Most modern religions do not advocate war directly, however people commonly use religion as an excuse to goto war.

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Postby Maroza » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:43 pm

It can but so can political differences, family feuds, intolerance for another culture and thousands of other reasons.
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Postby Distruzio » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:44 pm

Please post YOUR thoughts.
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Postby ALMF » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:44 pm

Absolutely, in fact that is it's mimetic evolutionary niche.
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Postby Gravonia » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:44 pm

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:44 pm

its not the main cause but is often a big side cause.
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Postby The Batorys » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:45 pm

No. It can be used as a justification, but plenty of wars have been waged without religion being involved at all.

If there were no religion, humans would still go to war, but would justify it with different reasons.

The real reasons humans go to war are usually issues related to territory and thus, resources.
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:45 pm

Religion itself does not inherently cause war, though there are/were religions which hold war as an ideal and actively promoted its use. This is something that should really be examined on a case-by-case basis, and distinguishing the various schools within a given religion is equally important. It's basically impossible to make a blanket statement like "religion causes war" or "religion never causes war".
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Postby Acrainia » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:45 pm

Yes, but almost never on its own.

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Postby Meon » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:45 pm

Some religions cause war, others don't. You can't just say "religion", when that's everything from Shinto to Yazidism to Baha'i to Zoroastrianism.
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Postby Periodspace » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:47 pm

Yichta wrote:please post your thoughts, thanks!

Yes and no. Yes it can cause war and has on several occasions, no because religion does not neccesarily cause war and it has not caused every war.

What's your opinion?

I have recently changed some political opinions, so my "pro and against" thing is still in the works.

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Postby Ganos Lao » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:47 pm

Maroza wrote:It can but so can political differences, family feuds, intolerance for another culture and thousands of other reasons.


This.

I always wonder about the people who think religion alone has caused so many problems and that it is the only thing that's ever motivated people to fight each other. I don't deny that religion has done what we would call evil, but I'm skeptical of the whole approach I see advocated all too often.

Even if humanity became entirely atheist, I would doubt we'd be any better off. We'd still be fighting over other things. As history has taught us, war never changes.
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Postby Glandria (Ancient) » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:47 pm

Religion is not directly responsible in most situations, but I believe that there are times when nations use the ideas of a religion as fuel to a ember of fire.

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Postby Yichta » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:48 pm

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Postby Proloteriat » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:48 pm

A lot.
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Postby Naughtania » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:52 pm

Crusades.
The Spanish Armada.
Violence in India during partition.
Sectarian violence in Iraq.
Al-Quaeda/Taliban/Terrorism generally.
Israel and Palestine.

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Postby Hunters Dictatorship » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:55 pm

Religion can most certainly cause war. just look at the Shiites and the Sunnis in Iraq and Iran. They're both Muslim, but, just because they believe in one tiny difference, they have been at war for thousands of years.

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Postby Meowfoundland » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:55 pm

Yes, but so can other, much more trivial, things.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:55 pm

Unified Patriotopia wrote:Most modern religions do not advocate war directly, however people commonly use religion as an excuse to goto war.

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Does religion cause war?

Postby Imperial Parhe » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:56 pm

Depends on what way you mean.
Most religions do not advocate, or at least not casually, wars, but some wars have been known to have been started at least partially based on religions. I do not say this to mean that the religions themselves have actually advocated the wars, but I mean people have sometimes used a religion to attempt to justify a war.

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Postby The Realm of God » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:58 pm

Naughtania wrote:Crusades.
The Spanish Armada.
Violence in India during partition.
Sectarian violence in Iraq.
Al-Quaeda/Taliban/Terrorism generally.


Is this a question worth asking?


Israel and Palestine.

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Israel and Palestine is more to do with politics i.e how would you like it if you were invaded. As you can see Muslims have to respect Christians and Jews.

Personally I think sometimes.
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Postby ALMF » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:00 pm

Ganos Lao wrote:
Maroza wrote:It can but so can political differences, family feuds, intolerance for another culture and thousands of other reasons.


This.

I always wonder about the people who think religion alone has caused so many problems and that it is the only thing that's ever motivated people to fight each other. I don't deny that religion has done what we would call evil, but I'm skeptical of the whole approach I see advocated all too often.

Even if humanity became entirely atheist, I would doubt we'd be any better off. We'd still be fighting over other things. As history has taught us, war never changes.

It's not not the only cause; however, the combination of permanence and resistance to reason of Methos/poedicks and it's sensational form religion makes it the magor cause (thoe not usually the first cause) of wars. And yes, war wold still exist without religion, but orders of magnitude reduction of frequency, duration, and brutality. Therefore, we wold be immeasurably better of without it.
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