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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:20 am

Natapoc wrote:lol :) okay sorry what if I just talk about FT or FFT? That better?

So how would you improve our urine modeling by application of chaos theory? Is that for when you decide to go or in deciding how the "stream" moves to account for various unknowns?


Chaos theory comes into play in those weird instances when you're pissing as usual, and all of a sudden you notice that you're actually pissing two streams at once, and since you were aiming under the assumption of one, the piss goes everywhere and makes a mess. ;)
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Postby Genital Confusions » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:24 am

I'm partial to differential equations.

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Postby Genital Confusions » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:27 am

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Natapoc wrote:lol :) okay sorry what if I just talk about FT or FFT? That better?

So how would you improve our urine modeling by application of chaos theory? Is that for when you decide to go or in deciding how the "stream" moves to account for various unknowns?


Chaos theory comes into play in those weird instances when you're pissing as usual, and all of a sudden you notice that you're actually pissing two streams at once, and since you were aiming under the assumption of one, the piss goes everywhere and makes a mess. ;)


Chaos theory also comes into play when you jump off a tall building in order to kill yourself and live. Little do people know that the exact opposite also occurs. Dead people frequently try to reanimate themselves and end up staying dead.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:27 am

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:I just need to get around to getting the book again, if the need arises. The only things I really remember about my Differential Equations course was that a) It was about ODEs only, and b) It was too fucking easy.

And it was maybe a year and a half ago that I took it. I've been onto more fun math, like triple integrals and flux fields and turbulent flow friction calculations and energy head calculation and stuff.


If you want to figure out the total collection of all allowable velocity profiles that fall under various conditions (e.g. irrotational, incompressible, steady, compressible but steady, etc.), you will be using 2 PDE's, namely the conservation of mass for fluids (div(p*v) + dp/dt = 0)*, and the equation for rotation in fluids (1/2*curl(v) = w)**. If you also want to figure out what velocity field will actually exist in a particular setup, you must invoke the Navier-Stokes equation. There's some PDE's for you.

*those p's are actually rho's to represent mass density and v is the velocity vector field
**w is actually lower case omega and represents the angular velocity vector.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:29 am

Genital Confusions wrote:Chaos theory also comes into play when you jump off a tall building in order to kill yourself and live. Little do people know that the exact opposite also occurs. Dead people frequently try to reanimate themselves and end up staying dead.


However, according to legend, they sometimes succeed in reanimation: ;)

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Postby Genital Confusions » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:32 am

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Genital Confusions wrote:Chaos theory also comes into play when you jump off a tall building in order to kill yourself and live. Little do people know that the exact opposite also occurs. Dead people frequently try to reanimate themselves and end up staying dead.


However, according to legend, they sometimes succeed in reanimation: ;)

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A few weeks later, he decided to leave again but this time without dying. Apparently life wasn't worth sticking around for but dying kinda sucks too. I guess we're fucked.

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Postby Unibot » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:34 am

Natapoc wrote:
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Yootopia wrote:"pish: urine; also denoting that something is bad, e.g. "thats pure pish" - http://www.gla.ac.uk/clubs/ski/weegie.html#pish


You know, you could model a stream of urine using a few partial differential equations. Navier-Stokes and the equation of continuity for mass come to mind.

Also, why is math pure piss?


Hay that is a great point. Actually this is very important in the development of computer games. If the urine flow is not correctly modeled it could float all over the place and people would not play the game because they think it is to fake.

Want to try to come up with a simplistic model? What variables do you think are important enough to consider for an effective urine flow model?

edit: I need to get some pencil and paper out for this conversation



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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:54 am

*bump*
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Yootopia wrote:What is there to discuss -_-


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Postby Faxanavia » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:58 am

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:Let's discuss Partial Differential Equations! :)

Let's not! :)
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Yootopia wrote:What is there to discuss -_-


Would you rather discuss abortion for the 3.34 x 1028th time?


Like being a good comedic, in order to make a good thread, your subject has to be universal. This subject is not universal.


Oh, but math is universal, especially calculus - it's universally hated. My response to Diffy Qs is, was, and always will be AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH! *runs for hills.*
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Anti-Social Darwinism wrote:Oh, but math is universal, especially calculus - it's universally hated. My response to Diffy Qs is,
was, and always will be AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH! *runs for hills.*


Have you ever actually worked with differential equations?
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UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Anti-Social Darwinism wrote:Oh, but math is universal, especially calculus - it's universally hated. My response to Diffy Qs is,
was, and always will be AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH! *runs for hills.*


Have you ever actually worked with differential equations?

I though you agreed to change this thread to abortion/health care/Obama?
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:59 am

Wilgrove wrote:
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Yootopia wrote:What is there to discuss -_-


Would you rather discuss abortion for the 3.34 x 1028th time?


Like being a good comedic, in order to make a good thread, your subject has to be universal. This subject is not universal.


Like there's something more universal than physics. ;)

Back to the OP, I'm still partial to good old Maxwell's equations. Expecially when you study the soliton solutions - which are non-linear (hyperbolic cosines galore).
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:02 pm

The heat equation is another nice equation, provided, of course, that the thermal diffusivity is constant.

So, we've got the parabolic heat equation, the elliptic Laplace and solenoidal equations, how about the hyperbolic wave equation?

The wave equation isn't bad either, as it is always separable. Yay!
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:13 pm

Risottia wrote:Like there's something more universal than physics. ;)

Back to the OP, I'm still partial to good old Maxwell's equations. Expecially when you study the soliton solutions - which are non-linear (hyperbolic cosines galore).


What sort of setup will give you a soliton?
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:26 pm

Tunizcha wrote:< Is building a 3-D diagram of the "foam" described by quantum theory in vacuums required for Planck energy, along with parallel universe "bubbles" connected by wormholes.


How are you doing this?
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Tunizcha wrote:< Is building a 3-D diagram of the "foam" described by quantum theory in vacuums required for Planck energy, along with parallel universe "bubbles" connected by wormholes.


How are you doing this?


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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:33 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:< Is building a 3-D diagram of the "foam" described by quantum theory in vacuums required for Planck energy, along with parallel universe "bubbles" connected by wormholes.


How are you doing this?


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I would need probably over 10 thousand toothpicks for what I have in mind. It's a 3-D structure that I'm creating on the computer, which I will then translate into coded instructions for a machine at my uncle's factory designed to build complex 3-D sculptures. It'll probably be made out of some lightweight plastic polymer. Why am I doing this? I'm going to be participating in a science fair, which will hopefully land me in good graces with the physics community, which could lead to some scholarships. I'm thinking ahead here, folks.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:34 pm

Tunizcha wrote:I would need probably over 10 thousand toothpicks for what I have in mind. It's a 3-D structure that I'm creating on the computer, which I will then translate into coded instructions for a machine at my uncle's factory designed to build complex 3-D sculptures. It'll probably be made out of some lightweight plastic polymer. Why am I doing this? I'm going to be participating in a science fair, which will hopefully land me in good graces with the physics community, which could lead to some scholarships. I'm thinking ahead here, folks.


When you get it done, would you mind posting pictures?
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:54 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:The heat equation is another nice equation, provided, of course, that the thermal diffusivity is constant.


Don't you forget its sister equation: Schroedinger's equation!
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:57 pm

Risottia wrote:Don't you forget its sister equation: Schroedinger's equation!


Yeah, but Schroedinger's equation is not separable in every coordinate system. You are basically forced to use a certain coordinate system according to the symmetry of the potential. The only reason to change coordinates in the heat equation is to make the boundary value problem slightly easier.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:00 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Risottia wrote:Like there's something more universal than physics. ;)

Back to the OP, I'm still partial to good old Maxwell's equations. Expecially when you study the soliton solutions - which are non-linear (hyperbolic cosines galore).


What sort of setup will give you a soliton?


For a detalied description, I should re-read my notes... and I should be working right now instead.

Anyway: a soliton is basically a wavetrain without dispersion. The point is that the travelling field itself makes the dispersing components disappear without losing energy in the process (just like the evanescent wave leaving a waveguide).
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Postby Tunizcha » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:06 pm

Risottia wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:The heat equation is another nice equation, provided, of course, that the thermal diffusivity is constant.


Don't you forget its sister equation: Schroedinger's equation!


Which one of Schrodinger's equations? Wave equations?
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