by Offenheim » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:31 am
by Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:56 am
by Costa Fiero » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:15 am
by Forsher » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:20 am
Costa Fiero wrote:Clearly she wants Alsace Lorraine back. Either that or she is deeply afraid of socialists.
by Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:21 am
Costa Fiero wrote:Clearly she wants Alsace Lorraine back. Either that or she is deeply afraid of socialists.
by Offenheim » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:24 am
Spiral Sun wrote:She's just being polite to her host.
by Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:31 am
by Costa Fiero » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:41 am
Spiral Sun wrote:They are willing to settle for Alsace. A rather conciliatory gesture on her part.
by Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:43 am
Costa Fiero wrote:Spiral Sun wrote:They are willing to settle for Alsace. A rather conciliatory gesture on her part.
Oh no. The locals probably can't bear the shame of having to drink German wine.
Although I am right. She is afraid of socialists. Particularly this one because it seems he might want to put an end to Merkel's version of Monopoly.
by Neu Leonstein » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:48 am
by Cosmopoles » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:50 am
by Neu Leonstein » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:52 am
Cosmopoles wrote:It doesn't seem like a very smart move for Merkel. What happens when Germany needs France's cooperation after Hollande wins?
by Spiral Sun » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:53 am
Cosmopoles wrote:It doesn't seem like a very smart move for Merkel. What happens when Germany needs France's cooperation after Hollande wins?
by Baltenstein » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:00 am
Neu Leonstein wrote:Cosmopoles wrote:It doesn't seem like a very smart move for Merkel. What happens when Germany needs France's cooperation after Hollande wins?
They wouldn't get it either way. From what we know about his domestic policy proposals, Hollande is not one to value pragmatism or public policy as a technical discipline.
Realistically, Merkel can do this (apparently she's more popular in France than Sarko is), and at the same time prepare relations with other EU leaders in anticipation of freezing French opinions out of key matters.
by Cromarty » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:01 am
Neu Leonstein wrote:Cosmopoles wrote:It doesn't seem like a very smart move for Merkel. What happens when Germany needs France's cooperation after Hollande wins?
They wouldn't get it either way. From what we know about his domestic policy proposals, Hollande is not one to value pragmatism or public policy as a technical discipline.
Realistically, Merkel can do this (apparently she's more popular in France than Sarko is), and at the same time prepare relations with other EU leaders in anticipation of freezing French opinions out of key matters.
Cerian Quilor wrote:There's a difference between breaking the rules, and being well....Cromarty...
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by Tagmatium » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:03 am
Cromarty wrote:Neu Leonstein wrote:They wouldn't get it either way. From what we know about his domestic policy proposals, Hollande is not one to value pragmatism or public policy as a technical discipline.
Realistically, Merkel can do this (apparently she's more popular in France than Sarko is), and at the same time prepare relations with other EU leaders in anticipation of freezing French opinions out of key matters.
My left nut is more popular in France than Sarko is.
North Calaveras wrote:Tagmatium, it was never about pie...
by Cromarty » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:05 am
Cerian Quilor wrote:There's a difference between breaking the rules, and being well....Cromarty...
<Koth>all sexual orientations must unite under the relative sexiness of madjack
by Neu Leonstein » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:05 am
Baltenstein wrote:Given than Greece, Portugal, Italy and Spain would probably back a socialist-governed France in most eurozone decisions, I doubt isolating Monsieur Hollande would be that easy.
by Drakenwaald » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:21 am
by Baltenstein » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:22 am
Neu Leonstein wrote:Baltenstein wrote:Given than Greece, Portugal, Italy and Spain would probably back a socialist-governed France in most eurozone decisions, I doubt isolating Monsieur Hollande would be that easy.
Greece and Portugal don't get listened to, and Italy is run by Monti, who is as pro-German as it gets. Even the Spanish are run by conservatives now. Plus, you've got all the non-elected types: Juncker and his ilk, the ECB and even Lagarde.
by Hippostania » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:33 am
by Baltenstein » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:45 am
Hippostania wrote:As long as Sarkozy remains in power, I don't give a damn about anyone interfering in French politics. Hell, I'd even support vote fraud, gerrymandering, anything as long as Sarkozy stays in power.
by Neu Leonstein » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:02 am
Baltenstein wrote:Monti is not a German yes-man. He's also demanding things from Merkel.
Given the expectable (disastrous) outcome of the Spanish austerity measures and the effect those will have on his popularity, I think it's likely that Rajoy will give in as well. Juncker was actually the first one to propose the introduction of Eurobonds. And while Portugal and Greece may not get listened to, the second- and third-biggest economies of the Eurozone will.
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