Why do Neo-Nazis exist?

[Lackadaisical2]

That may eb the case sometimes, but I'm with Tezdrian here, some people really agree with it, and of course the Nazi's did have great style, and Jews control the world, so theres that too.


Genocide isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

You do know that genocide is the systematic elimination of an ethnic group, right?

Not just ethnic groups. I don't see whats so special about ethnic groups that we need quite so many lying around anyway. I'm not advocating death squads and such, but I also don't think that groups deserve any protection an individual isn't due.

[Greater Tezdrian]

But why do they agree.

I imagine that they have an attraction to the blood and soil, agrarian conservatism that characterizes much National Socialist thought, in addition to accepting racial theory as a valid answer to the question of human differences. Throw in the occasional belief in Aryan supremacy and the standard rejection of democracy as inefficient or dangerous, etc. and you have yourself an ideology. I will confess that I'm not too familiar with the ideology however.

The only justification I can think of is out and out racism. There are other ideologies that present much better alternatives for both progressives and reactionaries. Nazism is a bad joke founded around a cult of personality.

Do you consider Strasserism to be the same as National Socialism?

That must be rare. That isnt a comment on their temperment (albeit that is of course questionable considering highschool level biology proves so many of the Nazi assumptions incorrect) but on their political standpoint. I find few Neo-Nazis actually understand the political and economic doctrines of both, and often seem to presume that the nazis hated muslims... A very innacurate statement.

There is a remarkable difference between Neo-Nazi and National Socialist.

[Conserative Morality]

Do you consider Strasserism to be the same as National Socialism?

No. Strasserism is typical antisemitic ultranationalism. It's at least a coherent ideology, even if shamelessly based on racist bullshit.

I guess what I'm saying is that I hate it less than standard Hitlerite Nazism. But that's not saying much.

[The USOT]

But why do they agree.

I imagine that they have an attraction to the blood and soil, agrarian conservatism that characterizes much National Socialist thought, in addition to accepting racial theory as a valid answer to the question of human differences. Throw in the occasional belief in Aryan supremacy and the standard rejection of democracy as inefficient or dangerous, etc. and you have yourself an ideology. I will confess that I'm not too familiar with the ideology however.

The only justification I can think of is out and out racism. There are other ideologies that present much better alternatives for both progressives and reactionaries. Nazism is a bad joke founded around a cult of personality.

Do you consider Strasserism to be the same as National Socialism?

That must be rare. That isnt a comment on their temperment (albeit that is of course questionable considering highschool level biology proves so many of the Nazi assumptions incorrect) but on their political standpoint. I find few Neo-Nazis actually understand the political and economic doctrines of both, and often seem to presume that the nazis hated muslims... A very innacurate statement.

There is a remarkable difference between Neo-Nazi and National Socialist.

Which is why I made the distinction...

[Primo Victoria]

I think it may begin as a combination of being a Nationalist, not a bad thing in of itself, as well as desiring a more disciplined society. Given a few years and some good old fashioned peer pressure, you have a Nazi. much like how someone who leans a little Left becomes a foaming at the mouth Democrat come election time.

[Conserative Morality]

I think it may begin as a combination of being a Nationalist, not a bad thing in of itself, as well as desiring a more disciplined society. Given a few years and some good old fashioned peer pressure, you have a Nazi. much like how someone who leans a little Left becomes a foaming at the mouth Democrat come election time.

Democrats are huge moderates by most standards. I'm not sure how one becomes a frothing at the mouth moderate.

Also, there are many better ideologies for nationalists.

[Greater Tezdrian]

-snip-

Eh, the racist aspects have really been toned down of late to just racialism (the belief in the biological existence of race) rather than racism per se. These days it's far more focused on the revolutionary socialistic aspects rather than race.

[AETEN II]

Scary thought.

Not really. I'm met some very nice National Socialists, both of the Hitlerian and Strasserist persuasions.

I cannot understand however, as how can they even somewhat like such an organization. The ONLY positive thing that came out of Nazis were the inventions that were spawned from the course of the war and the rise of America as a global superpower. They're still however one of the most evil groups to exist in Earth's history- equal to that of the Communists (not the ideal, the people behind it originally).

[King Koopa I]

To cause deliberate outrage. To say, basically "look at me. Look at how much shock value I generate."

This, for the most part. I think some of them have at least a half-way logical reason for being so intolerant, but choose a rather unintelligent and controversial way of expressing it.

[Greater Tezdrian]

Not really. I'm met some very nice National Socialists, both of the Hitlerian and Strasserist persuasions.

I cannot understand however, as how can they even somewhat like such an organization. The ONLY positive thing that came out of Nazis were the inventions that were spawned from the course of the war and the rise of America as a global superpower. They're still however one of the most evil groups to exist in Earth's history- equal to that of the Communists (not the ideal, the people behind it originally).

Yes, because modern National Socialists are exactly like 30s-40s National Socialists. Even down to being associated with the NSDAP.

[Waraqistan]

Because in this world society shuts out the people they hate and when this happens it leads them to nazis and how they felt about about the world hating them. So they look towards racism and nazism as a savour. And if anything i know some stuff about neo nazis

[Trotskylvania]

I think it may begin as a combination of being a Nationalist, not a bad thing in of itself, as well as desiring a more disciplined society. Given a few years and some good old fashioned peer pressure, you have a Nazi. much like how someone who leans a little Left becomes a foaming at the mouth Democrat come election time.

Democrats are huge moderates by most standards. I'm not sure how one becomes a frothing at the mouth moderate.

Also, there are many better ideologies for nationalists.

Most of the various flavors of fascism are basically the political center gone mad. The middle class shopkeepers, intellectuals and nationalists, pinched between a distasteful liberal capitalism and the threat of proletarian revolution, end up out-reactionarying the old farts with boners for the monarchist past.

[Primo Victoria]

I think it may begin as a combination of being a Nationalist, not a bad thing in of itself, as well as desiring a more disciplined society. Given a few years and some good old fashioned peer pressure, you have a Nazi. much like how someone who leans a little Left becomes a foaming at the mouth Democrat come election time.

Democrats are huge moderates by most standards. I'm not sure how one becomes a frothing at the mouth moderate.

Also, there are many better ideologies for nationalists.

.....Wait,

Democrats are huge moderates by most standards.

...

moderates

Never heard of the Brady campaign I take it?

[Conserative Morality]

Eh, the racist aspects have really been toned down of late to just racialism (the belief in the biological existence of race) rather than racism per se. These days it's far more focused on the revolutionary socialistic aspects rather than race.

Then why not go for something more like Titoism?

[Conserative Morality]

Most of the various flavors of fascism are basically the political center gone mad. The middle class shopkeepers, intellectuals and nationalists, pinched between a distasteful liberal capitalism and the threat of proletarian revolution, end up out-reactionarying the old farts with boners for the monarchist past.

I usually regard moderate and centrist as not necessarily the same.

[Conserative Morality]

.....Wait,

Democrats are huge moderates by most standards.

...

moderates

Never heard of the Brady campaign I take it?

What, the gun control folks?

[Primo Victoria]

Eh, the racist aspects have really been toned down of late to just racialism (the belief in the biological existence of race) rather than racism per se. These days it's far more focused on the revolutionary socialistic aspects rather than race.

Then why not go for something more like Titoism?

To easy to mix up with Titism. ( the worship tits.)

[Primo Victoria]

.....Wait,

Democrats are huge moderates by most standards.

...

moderates

Never heard of the Brady campaign I take it?

What, the gun control folks?

The same.

[Greater Tezdrian]

Eh, the racist aspects have really been toned down of late to just racialism (the belief in the biological existence of race) rather than racism per se. These days it's far more focused on the revolutionary socialistic aspects rather than race.

Then why not go for something more like Titoism?

Too little blut und boden I guess. I'll ask around.

[Conserative Morality]

The same.

On a scale of one to ten, with one being Sycophantic towards the current adminstration, and ten being Revolutionary, the Brady campaign hits maybe a three on a particularly angry day.

[Wisconsin7]

Not really. I'm met some very nice National Socialists, both of the Hitlerian and Strasserist persuasions.

I cannot understand however, as how can they even somewhat like such an organization. The ONLY positive thing that came out of Nazis were the inventions that were spawned from the course of the war and the rise of America as a global superpower. They're still however one of the most evil groups to exist in Earth's history- equal to that of the Communists (not the ideal, the people behind it originally).

Stalin and his gang of power-hungry cretins perverted communism. A real communist country is supposed to be a republic where every voice is heard, not a corrupt dictatorship.

[Primo Victoria]

The same.

On a scale of one to ten, with one being Sycophantic towards the current adminstration, and ten being Revolutionary, the Brady campaign hits maybe a three on a particularly angry day.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

please, only the Anti-Abortion/Pro-Choice people get more worked up. Hell, the Bradys just announced a nationwide protest of Starbucks!!

[Wikkiwallana]

On a scale of one to ten, with one being Sycophantic towards the current adminstration, and ten being Revolutionary, the Brady campaign hits maybe a three on a particularly angry day.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

please, only the Anti-Abortion/Pro-Choice people get more worked up. Hell, the Bradys just announced a nationwide protest of Starbucks!!

Scary. Look how worried I am about such radical action.

[Mussoliniopoli]

Because their mothers didn't love them enough when they are younger so now they lash out on the net for the attention they so crave.

[Conserative Morality]

Because their mothers didn't love them enough when they are younger so now they lash out on the net for the attention they so crave.

Don't be silly Panzer.

It's their FATHERS that didn't love them.